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Topic 158 of 395: CRT

Wed, Jul 24, 1996 (12:22) | Paul Terry Walhus (terry)

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CRT -- Combined Rlogin and Telnet (CRT) is an
excellent New app that many of the most demanding netizens will take
pleasure in using. Its many features include full
VT100/VT102/VT220 emulation, SOCKS firewall support (telnet
only), NAWS (telnet window size change) and LFLOW (telnet
local flow control) support, generic telnet proxy firewall support,
and Zmodem file transfer. CRT has many user configurable settings
(fonts, colors, screen size, keymaps, and more); it also
automatically saves these settings for you upon exit. CRT
automatically saves previously visited sites for you as well -- a
definite plus over the likes of WinQVT and Trumpet Telnet. CRT
works extremely well as an external helper application for common
web browsers like Netscape and Internet Explorer. One of its best
attributes is the fact that there are separate versions available for
both Windows 3.x users and Windows 95/NT users.

There are few features missing in the current version that would
make this a difficult app to recommend. While not including as
many features overall as NetTerm and Kermit for Windows 95,
CRT does integrates a solid feature-set into an easy to use and
attractive interface. Also, at $30, some users will likely find their
needs better met by freeware telnet clients like EWAN and Trumpet
Telnet. Several features previously missing in CRT have been
effectively addressed with the latest release -- multiple telnet
sessions can be launched much more effeciently with the
New Window option, Zmodem download and upload transfers are
now possible, and ANSI and VT220 emulation modes have also
been implemented. Overall, CRT offers an impressive set of
features unrivaled by most of the current fare of terminal emulator
clients and is a recommended app for anyone in search of the
elusive near-perfect telnet application.

Pros: Zmodem transfer support, many user configurable settings,
easy to use
Cons: Price relative to freeware clients
New: Zmodem upload, automatic login process, improved VT220
emulation, much more
Version Reviewed: 1.1.2 Beta 3
Date of Review: 7/2/96 Reviewer: Forrest Stroud

Location: ftp://ftp.vandyke.com/pub/CRT/ntcrt112.exe
Company: Van Dyke Technologies
Information: CRT Home Page

33 responses total.

 Topic 158 of 395 [apps]: CRT
 Response 1 of 33: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Tue, Jul 30, 1996 (05:11) * 2 lines 
 
In my book, CRT is head to head with WS_QVT.



 Topic 158 of 395 [apps]: CRT
 Response 2 of 33: Paul Terry Walhus  (terry) * Sat, Nov 30, 1996 (11:27) * 3 lines 
 
CRT just announced this conference on their website. Thank you! For folks coming here for the first time from the CRT website. You may want to 'signup' so you can post your own comments.

I find the new version of CRT with it's multiple windows and new feature set to be the number one terminal program on the Net. I am going to be doing an in depth review of CRT for a new website that will do *very* in depth reviews of software products. We won't do 300 or more like Forrest, but we will review the top twenty or so apps on the Net in great depth and these reviews will be closely tied in to these conference topics.


 Topic 158 of 395 [apps]: CRT
 Response 3 of 33: Mark Guagenti  (mgenti) * Sat, Nov 30, 1996 (14:18) * 2 lines 
 
I agree that CRT is the best terminal app. It is very configurable and I really
like the multi window option.


 Topic 158 of 395 [apps]: CRT
 Response 4 of 33: styrmir jonsson  (styrmir) * Thu, Dec  5, 1996 (10:45) * 2 lines 
 
Does anyone know how to enter this sequence in the keymap for E.G F6 ^[[17~^ ?
I tried "\03317~" but thats not the Answer.


 Topic 158 of 395 [apps]: CRT
 Response 5 of 33: Paul Terry Walhus  (terry) * Thu, Dec  5, 1996 (10:46) * 1 lines 
 
Could you explain that question a little more, I'm afraid you've lost me!


 Topic 158 of 395 [apps]: CRT
 Response 6 of 33: styrmir jonsson  (styrmir) * Fri, Dec  6, 1996 (02:20) * 9 lines 
 
This is from the help menu...

string (or function):
If the virtual key is pressed with the corresponding modifiers, then the associated string is sent as if the user had typed it. The string can include characters represented in octal notation. For example, OP, would be represented as: "\033OP"

This works just fine as long as you only have "one" escape character, but how do you enter 2 escape caracters in front of a string ?.

Eg. if the string i need is 17 and i need 2 escape caracters in front of it, how dow i do it ?.



 Topic 158 of 395 [apps]: CRT
 Response 7 of 33: styrmir jonsson  (styrmir) * Fri, Dec  6, 1996 (03:48) * 9 lines 
 
This is from the help menu...

string (or function):
If the virtual key is pressed with the corresponding modifiers, then the associated string is sent as if the user had typed it. The string can include characters represented in octal notation. For example, OP, would be represented as: "\033OP"

This works just fine as long as you only have "one" escape character, but how do you enter 2 escape caracters in front of a string ?.

Eg. if the string i need is 17 and i need 2 escape caracters in front of it, how dow i do it ?.



 Topic 158 of 395 [apps]: CRT
 Response 8 of 33: Jeff P. Van Dyke  (vandyke) * Wed, Dec 11, 1996 (14:37) * 5 lines 
 
Try: \033[17~ or \e[17~

In addition, there are some sample keymaps in

ftp://ftp.vandyke.com/pub/CRT/keymaps


 Topic 158 of 395 [apps]: CRT
 Response 9 of 33: styrmir jonsson  (styrmir) * Thu, Dec 12, 1996 (02:38) * 1 lines 
 
Thank You for your help :)


 Topic 158 of 395 [apps]: CRT
 Response 10 of 33: styrmir jonsson  (styrmir) * Thu, Dec 12, 1996 (02:38) * 1 lines 
 
Thank You for your help :)


 Topic 158 of 395 [apps]: CRT
 Response 11 of 33: Paul Stuart  (pauley) * Fri, Jan  3, 1997 (12:00) * 1 lines 
 
I'm trying to capture screen shots within CRT. Without using printscreen (I want text, not bitmap) I can't get linedraw characters (using VT100 character set) to copy correctly. Does anyone know how to capture/print linedraw characters in a vt100 session?


 Topic 158 of 395 [apps]: CRT
 Response 12 of 33: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Fri, Jan  3, 1997 (22:03) * 2 lines 
 
Are you using Windows 95? I just turn logging on or increase the buffer size
and highlight the text, copy and paste it. Copying text is pretty trivial.


 Topic 158 of 395 [apps]: CRT
 Response 13 of 33: Jeff P. Van Dyke  (vandyke) * Tue, Jan  7, 1997 (09:43) * 8 lines 
 
It is not currently possible to copy the VT100 line drawing characters
to the clipboard.

Also, CRT doesn't currently support printing the VT100 line drawing
characters because the current VT100 font is not a printer font. We
hope to include a TrueType font with VT line drawing characters in
a future release.



 Topic 158 of 395 [apps]: CRT
 Response 14 of 33: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Tue, Jan  7, 1997 (10:03) * 1 lines 
 
What are the maximum number of lines the buffer will hold?


 Topic 158 of 395 [apps]: CRT
 Response 15 of 33: TASK  (TASK) * Thu, Jan 16, 1997 (09:27) * 1 lines 
 
I am using the Telnet with 95 to a Unix Box. The standard Print utility within the Unix Application will not pass through the CRT program. Is there a setting within CRT that will allow proper printing of Applications. I am using CRT in the VT-100 emulation. The Actual VT-100's on the System print properly.


 Topic 158 of 395 [apps]: CRT
 Response 16 of 33: Jeff P. Van Dyke  (vandyke) * Fri, Jan 17, 1997 (15:03) * 4 lines 
 
-- What are the maximum number of lines the buffer will hold?

The maximum allowable setting for the scrollback buffer is 9999.



 Topic 158 of 395 [apps]: CRT
 Response 17 of 33: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sat, Jan 18, 1997 (16:37) * 7 lines 
 
That's a pretty hefty amount! Are there any plans afoot to increase the lines in the
auto script when you logon to a remote server? Right now, you have a dialog box with about 4
lines. I'm talking about the Preferences/Session/Login Script Details which allows you to automate the
first four commands that you key in when you log on to a server. Also, (this is nit picking now)
do you plan to add a hotkey so you can type 'd' for details instead of using a mouse click?

CRT has become one of the single most userful programs we use at the Spring. I give it five walruses!


 Topic 158 of 395 [apps]: CRT
 Response 18 of 33: TSKoehler  (tkoehler) * Fri, Jan 24, 1997 (15:04) * 6 lines 
 
I love the fact that CRT has built-in firewall automation tools. Very
cool! One feature I would like to see which doesn't appear to be
available is an option to indicate whether or not you would like to
turn on the log file immediately upon connect. This would be of great
benefit as then I wouldn't have to worry about forgetting to turn it
on when doing an expensive online database search.


 Topic 158 of 395 [apps]: CRT
 Response 19 of 33: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Fri, Jan 24, 1997 (21:39) * 1 lines 
 
Good enhancement suggestion.


 Topic 158 of 395 [apps]: CRT
 Response 20 of 33: Jason Cheng  (jccheng) * Sat, Feb  1, 1997 (01:30) * 2 lines 
 
Is there any way that I can login to SCO 5.0 Unix Server at fixed tty (ie ttyp0, or ttyp1)
thanks


 Topic 158 of 395 [apps]: CRT
 Response 21 of 33: Michael Gacsaly  (MG) * Wed, Feb 19, 1997 (17:29) * 3 lines 
 
We use CRT under NT to connect to our VMS cluster. It is by far the best terminal emulator we have tried for connecting to a VMS environment. Comparing CRT to freeware is questionable, for the very modest price I have submitted nearly 30 requests for new features or fixes and have gotten almost all of them fixed QUICKLY. My experiance with freeware is turnaround for bug fixes and feature requests is very slow. I have found CRT *well* worth the money.

Now a question. We use CRT in a DEC VMS environment that supports the DECTERM mouse locator escape sequences (for editors like Eve). Does anyone know if there is a way to setup the VMS termtable file so that Eve will work with the CRT xterm mouse locator sequences?


 Topic 158 of 395 [apps]: CRT
 Response 22 of 33: David Reed  (radarme) * Wed, Feb 26, 1997 (21:12) * 3 lines 
 
Anyone know how to fire off an rlogin session from within Netscape using CRT as a helper app? would I put somoe type of config or session file on the web page and just configure crt as the helper app for that extension?

thanks


 Topic 158 of 395 [apps]: CRT
 Response 23 of 33: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sat, Mar  1, 1997 (09:45) * 1 lines 
 
That's exactly it. Configure crt as your telnet application in Netscape's settings.


 Topic 158 of 395 [apps]: CRT
 Response 24 of 33: Seth Harrison  (seth) * Tue, Jul 22, 1997 (11:33) * 3 lines 
 
I have tried Netterm and Kermit to login to SCO 5.0.2 Unix Server via TCP/IP from local Win95 workstations. The Wyse 50 emulation is less than ideal -- the Page up and Page down keys won't work at all and the Backspace works poorly. THe display characters are ok.
Does CRT have Wyse 50 emulation and a good keyboard map? If not , is there one that does?
Seth


 Topic 158 of 395 [apps]: CRT
 Response 25 of 33: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Tue, Jul 22, 1997 (11:39) * 1 lines 
 
It has VT100, VT102, VT220, ansi and ansi color. Excellent program!


 Topic 158 of 395 [apps]: CRT
 Response 26 of 33: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Tue, Jul 22, 1997 (11:39) * 8 lines 
 


CRT Question: I've just started trying CRT. If I have a direct
network connection it works just fine. If I dial-in it garbles
what I see on the screen. I'm connecting at 38.4 with a Supra.
In HyperTerminal I could set character delays and I can't find
that in CRT.



 Topic 158 of 395 [apps]: CRT
 Response 27 of 33: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sat, Sep 25, 1999 (09:07) * 51 lines 
 
Forrest's latest review of the new CRT *version 3* release:

CRT -- Combined Rlogin and Telnet (CRT) is an excellent new app that many
of the most demanding netizens will take pleasure in using. Its many
features include full VT100/VT102/VT220 emulation, SOCKS firewall support
(telnet only), NAWS (telnet window size change) and LFLOW (telnet local
flow control) support, generic telnet proxy firewall support, and Zmodem
file transfer.

CRT has many user configurable settings (fonts, colors, screen size,
keymaps, and more); it also automatically saves these settings for you
upon exit. CRT automatically saves previously visited sites for you as
well -- a definite plus over the likes of WinQVT and Trumpet Telnet. CRT
works extremely well as an external helper application for common Web
browsers like Netscape and Internet Explorer. Another of its better
attributes is the fact that there are separate versions available for both
Windows 3.x users and Windows 95/98/NT users.

There are few features missing in the current version that keep it from
being even more competitive with the competition. While not including as
many features overall as NetTerm and Kermit for Windows 95, CRT does
integrate a solid set of features into an easy to use and attractive
interface. Also, at $30, some users will likely find their needs better
met by freeware telnet clients like EWAN and Trumpet Telnet.

Several features previously missing in CRT have been effectively addressed
with the latest release -- multiple telnet sessions can be launched more
efficiently with the New Window toolbar icon, Zmodem download and upload
transfers are now possible, and ANSI and VT220 emulation modes have also
been implemented. Overall, CRT offers an impressive set of features
unrivaled by most of the current fare of terminal emulator clients and is
a recommended app for anyone in search of the elusive near-perfect telnet
application.

Pros: Zmodem transfer support, highly customizable, easy to use, SecureCRT
version available

Cons: Price relative to freeware clients, lacks some advanced features
found in NetTerm

New in v2.4: VT220 support for the DEC multinational character set, VT220
support for loading character sets into GL/GR, automated reconnect entry,
various bug fixes; Release Notes
Upgrade Meter: 4

New in v3.0 Beta: ActiveX scripting support, session keyboard mapping,
session list folder, SCO ANSI terminal and keyboard emulation; Release
Notes
Upgrade Meter: 3




 Topic 158 of 395 [apps]: CRT
 Response 28 of 33: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sat, Sep 25, 1999 (09:08) * 9 lines 
 
I just got an email from Jeff Van Dyke and my license code will be sent to
me next week, I'll then have some comments and observations on this new
version. Ya' know, it's Saturday morning and I emailed Jeff for a license
key and he sent me a personal email reply (*not* an automated letter)
within ten minutes.

These guys are *responsive*.




 Topic 158 of 395 [apps]: CRT
 Response 29 of 33: surendra mahajan  (surendra) * Sun, May 21, 2000 (07:20) * 2 lines 
 
Is there any way that I can login to SCO 5.0 Unix Server at fixed tty (ie ttyp0, or ttyp1) from a PC running Powerterm terminal emulator in a local network?



 Topic 158 of 395 [apps]: CRT
 Response 30 of 33:  (sprin5) * Sun, May 21, 2000 (08:06) * 1 lines 
 
Have you tried running CRT? Why Powerterm? What is it about Powerterm that made you choose it? Do they have a tech support website? Are you connected via a serial cable to the SCO Box?


 Topic 158 of 395 [apps]: CRT
 Response 31 of 33: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Mon, Apr 30, 2001 (01:08) * 1 lines 
 
I'm still really hooked on CRT, I'm using it as we speak.


 Topic 158 of 395 [apps]: CRT
 Response 32 of 33: Marcia Hemming (marci) * Sat, May 12, 2001 (15:04) * 1 lines 
 
me too. It really is the best I have used.


 Topic 158 of 395 [apps]: CRT
 Response 33 of 33: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Wed, Jun 13, 2001 (07:59) * 1 lines 
 
I just got a reviewer's copy of CRT 3.1.1 (32 bit) and I'll be posting some comments about it. For Linux fans, there's console emulation that supports ANSI color and built-in linux keymap and mouse reporting. This improves the behavior of Linuxconf, YaST and other applications.

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