

Topic 4 of 13: genetically engineered products
Wed, Sep 25, 1996 (10:52) |
Paul Terry Walhus (terry)
There is "Campaign to Ban Genetically Engineered Products"
I got this in an email today from Judy Kew:
I hope to send an update soon on information on the National Organic Standards
Board Meeting last week in Indianapolis. A push to inform food manufacturers
that
-GEO's (genetically engineered organisms) could be in the foods they are using
in their processing,
-there is a source of pure soybean seeds (unlike Monsanto's message to them
that there is not)
-and that Europe and Japan are indeed concerned about GEO's in the food they
buy from the U.S.(again unlike Monsanto's message)
is being firmed up today.
48 responses total.
Topic 4 of 13 [environment]: genetically engineered products
Response 1 of 48: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Wed, Sep 25, 1996 (10:53) * 85 lines
Here's the rest of Judy Kew's email:
In the meantime, please note that some of our best champions for this cause
are the candidates for the Natural Law Party. One of their major platforms is
a stand against GEO's . They are calling for mandatory labeling and a
moratorium until they are proven safe.
This Wednesday we can join in a Conference Call with Dr. John Hagelin, the
presidential candidate. Dr. Hagelin is a 42-year-old award-winning physicist
who received his Ph.D. in particle physics from Harvard. He is the founder
the Institute of Science, Technology and Public Policy, a think tank of
scientists, scholars and social policy makers to "offer practical solutions to
the problems we face as a nation."
He is a whole, compassionate person who, along with his party, has already
done much for us, such as, help derail a U.N. level effort to get genetically
engineered foods labeled as "organic."
The Natural Law Party National Conference Call will be at 8 p.m. Eastern,
Central & Pacific Time.
Call 412-858-4600 to join in.
(This is a change from the previously scheduled date of Sept. 26 due to the
rescheduling of the presidential debates to that evening.)
OR
If you live in Austin you can listen to the call and join in the the plans
for Dr. Hagelin and Dr. John Fagan"s visit to Texas, including Austin, Oct.
13-17
come this Wednesday, Sept. 25, (tomorrow ) at Sandie BonSell's at 8 p.m. --
2000 Key West cove in Lost Creek in Austin. All are welcome.
(Dr. Fagan is a molecular biologist who used to be a genetic engineer and
returned $600,000 award money (given him by the NIH to do g. e. research)
because he prefers to use his knowledge for life-supporting purposes.)
This Wed: Conference call with Dr. John Hagelin, Dr. Mike Thompkins and
Kingsley Brooks. We will be planning the National Tour and brainstorming
venues for when they come through Texas.
October 13-17 Dr. John Fagan and Dr. Thompkins tour Texas. Austin dates TBA.
Other news from the Natural Law Party:
October 17 Thurs. at 7PM Dr. Ed Fasanella, NLP Candidate,has been invited to
the SouthWest Texas University political debates for District 14, Hays County.
We are carpooling to the event to show our support and ask questions. Call
Carol for carpool info.
October 28 & 29 Dr. Hagelin to tour Texas. Austin dates TBA.
Larry King has committed to have third party candidates on his show for 3
nights following the scheduled pres. debates. He offered to do this because
we have been denied participation by the FCC- their reasoning is such that
anyone who doesn't really have a chance to win shouldn't take up our time.
Since when are they predictors of election outcomes? Who gave them the power
to deny the voters information to make their own choices and hear other ideas
and solutions to our nation's problems?
If this makes you want to let your voice be heard you can do the following:
e-mail debates 96@USA. pipeline. com. and tell them you support Dr. John
Hagelin and Dr. Mike Thompkins to be included in all debates since we are on
the ballot in 47 states and the D.C. and are the fastest growing political
party in the nation.
You can also sign a petition which will be delivered to the commission - go to
www.hagelin.org then on to Politics now and they have the petition posted for
anyone who wants to add their name.
Call the FCC at 202-872-1020 directly and voice your support for third party
candidates to be included in the nation's dialog and especially for NLP.
Green Building Conference Nov. 7-10, 1996
http://www.greenbuilder.com/conference/
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Topic 4 of 13 [environment]: genetically engineered products
Response 2 of 48: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Tue, Sep 23, 1997 (13:32) * 2 lines
Did you know:
There are no regulations on bottled water at the present time. Bottled water can be packaged in plastic containers (the 2nd largest landfill problem) straight from a municipal water source that may be contaminated with pesticides, herbicides, lead, chlorine (turns into gas in a hot shower), feces and several hundred other chemicals deemed "within acceptable limits" by the powers that be. I don't care what anybody says -- levels of these ANY levels of these are not acceptable to me.
Topic 4 of 13 [environment]: genetically engineered products
Response 3 of 48: Boyce will be Boyce (boyce2) * Mon, Oct 27, 1997 (15:36) * 6 lines
Then you prolly shouldn't drink *anything*, Stacey...
100% pure water is only theoretically possible, never actually existed, even
before life arose on the planet. The reality is that ppm and ppb concentrations of all kinds of nasties are present in water from all sources. But if there's not enough to damage you, what's the difference? The powers that be (usually the EPA or health department) have tons of info on the concentrations of most of the bad actors that have a measurable impact on human health, and they base their limits on that data (usually making the limit 100 or so times less than the measurable effect range).
Got to tell you though, water with chlorine is going to be much better for you than water without. I like my bacteria dead, thank you very much. :)
Topic 4 of 13 [environment]: genetically engineered products
Response 4 of 48: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Wed, Oct 29, 1997 (10:07) * 1 lines
Yes, the EPA has come up with "acceptable levels" of poisons in the drinking water but, what few people realize, is those levels are determined on a toxin by toxin basis w/o taking into consideration the AMA and independent research who have determined that the toxicity increases dramatically when the toxins are found in conjunction with others. Kinda like bleach and ammonia, eh?!?
Topic 4 of 13 [environment]: genetically engineered products
Response 5 of 48: KitchenManager (KitchenManager) * Fri, Oct 31, 1997 (01:36) * 5 lines
Everybody vote for Synergy!
Keep this in mind when self medicating,
kiddies...
WER
Topic 4 of 13 [environment]: genetically engineered products
Response 6 of 48: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sat, Mar 14, 1998 (08:24) * 7 lines
Genetic engineering of food is not almost here. Dolly the clone sheep
presages herds of identical animals. Genetically engineered corn with
pesticide resistance and insect resistance as well as potentially a
different nutritional make up is on the way. Would you eat foods from
these crops? Would you raise these crops?
Topic 4 of 13 [environment]: genetically engineered products
Response 7 of 48: wer (KitchenManager) * Sat, Mar 14, 1998 (13:59) * 1 lines
Deja vu...
Topic 4 of 13 [environment]: genetically engineered products
Response 8 of 48: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sun, Mar 15, 1998 (11:02) * 12 lines
Whenever I address this topic, I think of my friend Judy Kew, who is a
tireless campaigner for safe foods.
I hope she jumps in here at some point.
I irradiate foods every day. I have a microwave oven. Admission.
I wish I knew what was actually bad for me, in the way of treated,
irradiated, and genetically engineered foods. Where do you draw the line
between hype and fact?
Topic 4 of 13 [environment]: genetically engineered products
Response 9 of 48: wer (KitchenManager) * Mon, Mar 16, 1998 (09:26) * 1 lines
Personal experimentation based on all available data...
Topic 4 of 13 [environment]: genetically engineered products
Response 10 of 48: stacey leigh vura (stacey) * Mon, Mar 16, 1998 (11:24) * 1 lines
and sometimes you just have to guess...
Topic 4 of 13 [environment]: genetically engineered products
Response 11 of 48: Boyce will be Boyce (boyce2) * Mon, Mar 16, 1998 (16:43) * 5 lines
IMHO, a little loss of nutrient value (on par with cooking) from irradiation
(ionizing gammas, not microwaves) is worth it to save the literally hundreds of
lives and hundred of thousands of illnesses caused annually by biologically contaminated food.
The doubling of the shelf-life of produce is icing on the cake.
Topic 4 of 13 [environment]: genetically engineered products
Response 12 of 48: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Mon, Mar 16, 1998 (16:59) * 5 lines
Man, talk about timing. I post on irradiation in foods and we get a
rocket scientist checking in. So, Steve, would *you* eat irradiated
foods (I think I know the answer) and what about genetically engineered
foods?
Topic 4 of 13 [environment]: genetically engineered products
Response 13 of 48: stacey leigh vura (stacey) * Mon, Mar 16, 1998 (17:59) * 1 lines
i think i'd enjoy a five pound mushroom, how 'bout you?!?!
Topic 4 of 13 [environment]: genetically engineered products
Response 14 of 48: wer (KitchenManager) * Tue, Mar 17, 1998 (00:21) * 1 lines
How much Marsala sauce would that require, Stacey?
Topic 4 of 13 [environment]: genetically engineered products
Response 15 of 48: stacey leigh vura (stacey) * Tue, Mar 17, 1998 (09:07) * 1 lines
if it's your Marsala, I want lots and lots!!
Topic 4 of 13 [environment]: genetically engineered products
Response 16 of 48: wer (KitchenManager) * Wed, Mar 18, 1998 (00:16) * 1 lines
Anything else of mine that you want lots and lots of?
Topic 4 of 13 [environment]: genetically engineered products
Response 17 of 48: stacey leigh vura (stacey) * Wed, Mar 18, 1998 (17:16) * 2 lines
*grin*
whatcha offering?!?
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Response 18 of 48: wer (KitchenManager) * Thu, Mar 19, 1998 (00:08) * 1 lines
whatever it takes...
Topic 4 of 13 [environment]: genetically engineered products
Response 19 of 48: stacey leigh vura (stacey) * Thu, Mar 19, 1998 (09:36) * 2 lines
(in keeping with the topic)
got anything genetically engineered?!?!
Topic 4 of 13 [environment]: genetically engineered products
Response 20 of 48: wer (KitchenManager) * Thu, Mar 19, 1998 (11:04) * 2 lines
LOL!
I'll work on it!
Topic 4 of 13 [environment]: genetically engineered products
Response 21 of 48: stacey leigh vura (stacey) * Thu, Mar 19, 1998 (17:20) * 1 lines
well, before you work too hard... maybe we should do some early studies ( before and after type thing!)
Topic 4 of 13 [environment]: genetically engineered products
Response 22 of 48: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Thu, Mar 19, 1998 (17:55) * 1 lines
oops! just discovered this topic was linked to the environment conference... poor unsuspecting tree huggers!!!
Topic 4 of 13 [environment]: genetically engineered products
Response 23 of 48: wer (KitchenManager) * Fri, Mar 20, 1998 (00:48) * 2 lines
Okay, when do you want to schedule the exam?
(the end of June is my birthday...)
Topic 4 of 13 [environment]: genetically engineered products
Response 24 of 48: stacey leigh vura (stacey) * Fri, Mar 20, 1998 (09:41) * 1 lines
mine is sooner!
Topic 4 of 13 [environment]: genetically engineered products
Response 25 of 48: wer (KitchenManager) * Fri, Mar 20, 1998 (09:45) * 1 lines
yeah, well, so?
Topic 4 of 13 [environment]: genetically engineered products
Response 26 of 48: stacey leigh vura (stacey) * Fri, Mar 20, 1998 (10:15) * 2 lines
(just thought we could move the date up. i mean, why wait 'til June?)
(unless you're shy)
Topic 4 of 13 [environment]: genetically engineered products
Response 27 of 48: wer (KitchenManager) * Fri, Mar 20, 1998 (23:10) * 2 lines
Okay, so when's your birthday?
(thought you already knew...)
Topic 4 of 13 [environment]: genetically engineered products
Response 28 of 48: stacey leigh vura (stacey) * Mon, Mar 23, 1998 (09:52) * 1 lines
April 16
Topic 4 of 13 [environment]: genetically engineered products
Response 29 of 48: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Mon, Mar 23, 1998 (17:42) * 1 lines
wanna pre-party?
Topic 4 of 13 [environment]: genetically engineered products
Response 30 of 48: wer (KitchenManager) * Mon, Mar 23, 1998 (22:16) * 1 lines
sure, when and where?
Topic 4 of 13 [environment]: genetically engineered products
Response 31 of 48: stacey leigh vura (stacey) * Tue, Mar 24, 1998 (09:16) * 2 lines
well, if we can't fly to Bali...
I suppose we will have to meet on some virtual plane
Topic 4 of 13 [environment]: genetically engineered products
Response 32 of 48: wer (KitchenManager) * Tue, Mar 24, 1998 (09:33) * 1 lines
Formal or informal attire?
Topic 4 of 13 [environment]: genetically engineered products
Response 33 of 48: stacey leigh vura (stacey) * Tue, Mar 24, 1998 (09:34) * 3 lines
GOOD MORNING!
(what category does birthday 'suit' fit into?
Topic 4 of 13 [environment]: genetically engineered products
Response 34 of 48: wer (KitchenManager) * Tue, Mar 24, 1998 (09:40) * 3 lines
GOOD MORNING!!!
(depends on the party...)
Topic 4 of 13 [environment]: genetically engineered products
Response 35 of 48: stacey leigh vura (stacey) * Tue, Mar 24, 1998 (09:41) * 2 lines
good point.
besides, you don't want to start with nothing, when it's more fun to work your way there.
Topic 4 of 13 [environment]: genetically engineered products
Response 36 of 48: wer (KitchenManager) * Tue, Mar 24, 1998 (09:43) * 2 lines
This is true...speaking of, where's
Bambi?
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Response 37 of 48: stacey leigh vura (stacey) * Tue, Mar 24, 1998 (09:45) * 3 lines
sleeping off last night, will I do for now?
(only problem with Telnet is there is no handy little "latest posts" at the bottom, so I have to quickly run through the 10 or 15 most likely places!)
Topic 4 of 13 [environment]: genetically engineered products
Response 38 of 48: wer (KitchenManager) * Tue, Mar 24, 1998 (09:48) * 2 lines
I much prefer you, yes...
(you're still faster on here than I is...)
Topic 4 of 13 [environment]: genetically engineered products
Response 39 of 48: stacey leigh vura (stacey) * Tue, Mar 24, 1998 (09:53) * 1 lines
got UNIX on my side!
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Response 40 of 48: wer (KitchenManager) * Tue, Mar 24, 1998 (09:53) * 1 lines
left, right, in or out?
Topic 4 of 13 [environment]: genetically engineered products
Response 41 of 48: wer (KitchenManager) * Wed, Apr 1, 1998 (01:27) * 1 lines
Oh, sure, go on Spring break just to avoid the question...
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Response 42 of 48: stacey leigh vura (stacey) * Mon, Apr 6, 1998 (15:23) * 3 lines
heh heh heh!
left brained, right handed and an innie for a belly button.
was that the question?
Topic 4 of 13 [environment]: genetically engineered products
Response 43 of 48: wer (KitchenManager) * Mon, Apr 6, 1998 (16:40) * 2 lines
no, silly, what side you got your Unix on...
(but I do appreciate the information!)
Topic 4 of 13 [environment]: genetically engineered products
Response 44 of 48: Mike Griggs (mikeg) * Wed, Jul 15, 1998 (10:58) * 2 lines
There's a jolly good reason why nature is the way it is: because it works. When not-very-clever little Johnny-Biologist goes around tinkering, he's going to screw it all up. Mark my words :)
Topic 4 of 13 [environment]: genetically engineered products
Response 45 of 48: wer (KitchenManager) * Mon, Aug 17, 1998 (15:13) * 5 lines
GENITICALLY ENGINEERED FOODS!
There is growing consumer concern over the growth of Genetically Engineered Foods and potential
health risks we face. You can obtain detailed information on this subject at the following web
site: http://www.safe-food.org/
Topic 4 of 13 [environment]: genetically engineered products
Response 46 of 48: silent spring (sprin5) * Tue, Oct 17, 2000 (07:53) * 12 lines
UK to approve use of "terminator" technology:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/UK/Environment/2000-10/gm141000.shtml
Also from The Independent.
Secrecy in UK GM field tests:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/UK/Environment/2000-10/gm151000.shtml
Topic 4 of 13 [environment]: genetically engineered products
Response 47 of 48: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Mon, May 5, 2003 (11:44) * 13 lines
Greenery on alert
By Lakshmi Sandhana | Special to The Christian Science Monitor
Combating bioterrorism is no longer the domain of high-tech gadgets alone.
A new breed of genetically engineered plants will soon be capable of functioning as "sentinels," detecting harmful chemical and biological agents in the atmosphere. Designed to turn fluorescent green or a sickly brown within minutes or hours of exposure, the plants could be used along airport runways or around military or industrial sites.
"Plants make good sentinels because they can't run away," says Jack Schultz, a chemical ecologist and professor of entomology at Pennsylvania State University. "Because they are rooted in their environment, they must respond dynamically to environmental changes."
Some of the plants being developed will be able to signal the presence of chemical agents and animal pathogens such as anthrax. Others are being designed to fluoresce upon detecting TNT residues in the soil, aiding in land mine detection. If enough plants are gathered in one place, and if their glow is bright enough, researchers say satellites may be able to detect minefields from space.
http://search.csmonitor.com/2003/0501/p12s01-stct.html
Topic 4 of 13 [environment]: genetically engineered products
Response 48 of 48: environmentalist (cfadm) * Sun, Jul 2, 2006 (08:25) * 26 lines
Genetic Engineering: The Future of Foods?
By Linda Bren
Hawaiian farmers were in trouble. In the mid-1990s, an insect-borne virus--the papaya ring spot virus (PRSV)--threatened to decimate Hawaii's second-largest fruit crop. Plant breeders scrambled to produce a virus-resistant papaya. When traditional plant breeding methods failed, researchers turned to genetic engineering.
Years of research were finally met with success, and by spring of 1998, Hawaiian farmers were planting the seeds of PRSV-resistant papaya.
"The results were dramatic," says Dennis Gonsalves, Ph.D., a Cornell University plant pathologist who led the researchers' efforts to save the tropical delicacy and the livelihood of Hawaii's growers. "It was not a matter of increasing the yield, but a matter of whether they could grow it or not grow it."
Gonsalves' team of researchers from academia, industry, and government had isolated and copied a virus gene, then used a device called a gene gun to "shoot" the gene into the cells of the papaya plant. The virus gene in the plant works somewhat like immunization, but the mechanism of resistance is different, says Gonsalves, now director of the U.S. Department of Agriculture's Pacific Basin Agricultural Research Center in Hilo, Hawaii. "By integrating this virus gene into the chromosomes of the papaya, this made the papaya and subsequent generations resistant to the virus."
The rescue of the Hawaiian papaya industry is "a really satisfying story," says Gonsalves, and one that shows the difference that genetic engineering can make in people's lives.
But not all share Gonsalves' enthusiasm for genetically engineered foods. Although the newness of these foods may be wearing off, public concern about the safety and environmental impact of genetically engineered foods remains.
Some consumers and advocacy groups urge mandatory labeling that discloses the use of genetic engineering. Others advocate more stringent testing of these products before marketing. Still others want a ban on all genetically engineered foods.
"The Food and Drug Administration is confident that the genetically engineered food products on the U.S. market today are as safe as their conventionally bred counterparts, and the agency is prepared to meet the safety and regulatory challenges presented by new products as they emerge from the laboratory," says Commissioner of Food and Drugs Mark B. McClellan, M.D., Ph.D. "Genetically engineered foods must adhere to the same high standards of safety under the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act that apply to more traditional food products," McClellan adds.
What Are Genetically Engi
from
http://www.fda.gov/fdac/features/2003/603_food.html


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