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Topic 8 of 107: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics

Wed, Nov 27, 1996 (12:55) | Paul Terry Walhus (terry)
This item is to talk about the Spring in general, but specifically
to discuss issues and topics in other places that have some impact
on this community and this conference.

To some extent, the growth and well being of this conference are
tied to the growth and the well being of the Spring as a whole.
The Spring is free to all and hopefully it will remain that way.
It is supported by spinoff projects, particularly website hosting
and contruction, that may be generated through the good will and
name recognition that the Spring has. Perhaps some of you would
like to become part of the guidance of the Spring and be part of
the "SpringBoard" that is now about to form.

So, this will be a "state of the Spring" item as well as a
pointer to other topics of interest around the Spring and to
websites under developement on the Spring.
446 responses total. 

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 1 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Wed, Nov 27, 1996 (13:05) * 29 lines
Perhaps this topic will be a place to respond to all the email
queries about "why is this free?" and "what can I do to help?"
and other questions along a similar thread.

The Spring is building some contract websites. One that is
currently under construction is

http://www.childrenstory.com

I am billing a customer for this website. The revenue will go
to replace a badly needed hard drive for one of our servers,
make upgrades, and pay our kindly bandwidth provider. So, those
of you with website contruction skills, this is something very
specific and concrete you can do to help support the Spring and
keep it going. You can help build this site, which is going to
have a Real Audio server and will provide children with stories
in written and spoken form.

You can help directly by writing html code (I'll give you access)
or you can just make suggestions. I'm going to open a new
conference called 'projects' and this will be one of the first
topics and we can carry a discussion of how to build and improve
this site there.

Another website under construction to look at would be:

http://www.tvpc.com

Let me know!

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 2 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Wed, Nov 27, 1996 (13:10) * 4 lines
A pointer to a new conference: poetry. It just started
this morning. I sent out a few invitations. If you have
that poem hidden away in the bottom of that sock drawer, type
it out and post it. Any poets or poetry lovers here?

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 3 of 446: The Mysterious H.C.  (churchh) * Wed, Nov 27, 1996 (20:38) * 2 lines
Hey Terry, you can link to or kipe my HTML-ization of George MacDonald's
The Light Princess, at http://uts.cc.utexas.edu/~churchh/lprincss.html

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 4 of 446: Joan, too  (jwinsor) * Wed, Nov 27, 1996 (21:26) * 1 lines
Oh, HC - do you have any more MacDonald up your electronic sleeve?

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 5 of 446: The Mysterious H.C.  (churchh) * Wed, Nov 27, 1996 (21:55) * 2 lines
I also converted The Day Boy and the Night Girl (The Romance of Photogen and Nycteris) to HTML, but that was for the CCEL people, and it's on their web-site (you can find it through the CMU on-line books page, or I think there might be a lin
k to it at the end of the text of the Light Princess).

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 6 of 446: Joan, too  (jwinsor) * Thu, Nov 28, 1996 (01:57) * 1 lines
Who are CCEL? [something] Children's Electronic Literature, perhaps? Do you happen to have a link handy for CMU on-line books?

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 7 of 446: The Mysterious H.C.  (churchh) * Thu, Nov 28, 1996 (08:35) * 2 lines
"Christian Classics Ethereal Library", I think...
I'm too lazy to look up the CMU on-line books URL right now, but there's a link to it from the Jane Austen info page at http://uts.cc.utexas.edu/~churchh/janeinfo.html

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 8 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Thu, Nov 28, 1996 (14:39) * 12 lines
I looked at the Jane Austen info page and it's terrific. I got
into reading some of Jane Austen's works and I'll be coming back
for more visits.

What I'd like to do is set up a team of folks who have shell access
to this site and who are able to work in various websites of their
own and on the projects that I'm developing to help support this
conferencing system. Has anyone visited the projects conference yet?

I'm on Microsoft Netmeeting all day today so if anyone wants to "talk"
please drop by. I'm on the uls1.microsoft.com server. You need to
have NetMeeting software, which is free from Microsofts site.

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 9 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus  (terry) * Mon, Dec  2, 1996 (10:53) * 3 lines
Poor mixu! He's posting all alone in the books conference about his favorite books and putting out a mystery quote for folks to guess. Is anyone up to giving him a bit of company in the 'books' conference?

http://www.spring.com/yapp-bin/restricted/browse/books/all/

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 10 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Wed, Dec 25, 1996 (22:04) * 2 lines
Check out the interesting comments on community in topic 4 of the community
conference and respond, if you care to.

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 11 of 446: Joan, too  (jwinsor) * Wed, Dec 25, 1996 (22:25) * 2 lines
Terry, are you sure that you mean topic 4? That is the same (linked) topic as the "ramble" topic (with a different topic number) here. We don't have to "go there" to see it.


 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 12 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Thu, Dec 26, 1996 (22:50) * 3 lines
Ooops, no it is the last topic added I believe. What other
conferences on the Spring have folks here in Austen been
visiting? Any suggestions for new topics elsewhere on the Spring?

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 13 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Thu, Dec 26, 1996 (22:54) * 1 lines
It's topic 5 in community actually.

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 14 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus  (terry) * Fri, Dec 27, 1996 (00:24) * 6 lines
If you want to read some very eloquent stuff:

Topic 14 of 14 [music]: Players you have met
Response 21 of 21: drymartini (drymartini) * Thu, Dec 26, 1996 (21:27) * 3 lines

One of my all-time favorite interviews. Carlos Montoya, playing for a college crowd at Alfred, NY. Small, very dapper guy in this elegant tux, with a white hanky in his breat pocket, folded just so.... [much more]

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 15 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sun, Dec 29, 1996 (15:42) * 27 lines
We have got permission from ronks@well.com to reprint his
celebrated tech news comments, starting today. Here's a
sample:


Scientific American has an interesting article in its January 1997 issue
about developments in fiber-optic bandwidth and their implications for the
telephone industry. Companies including AT&T, Fujitsu, and Nippon T&T have
already used a single optical fiber to transmit data over "many kilometers"
in excess of a trillion bits per second. NEC has gone them one better by
using wave division multiplexing to create multiple channels transmitting at
different wavelengths; with WDM they sent 132 channels, each carrying 20
billion bits per second, over a single optical fiber. While these "hero
experiments" are not yet ready for commercial deployment, they seem to
demonstrate big changes in store: glass cable is much cheaper than copper,
and WDM is said to eliminate both the need for expensive boosters along the
path to clean up the signals periodically and for a separate laser on each
channel. As the cost of providing humungous bandwidth plummets, the phone
companies' revenue and even their monopoly status could be in jeopardy. A
rogue spokesman at British Telecom says technology will make "bandwidth free
and distance irrelevant." The director of H-P's labs says phone companies
will become digital utilities something like the water or the power company,
and an independent analyst estimates "telephone service should cost about
three cents a month."

Check out topic 2 in techbusiness.


 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 16 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Tue, Dec 31, 1996 (10:29) * 10 lines
The Spring was down for the past hour. I apologize to Myretta, Henry and others
that may have been trying to access it. I'm going through the log and emailing folks
that have tried to access it and letting them know that it's back up.

I messed it up this morning trying to reconfigure and restart the logs. If you're
interested in the technical details of what I did you can read the sordid details
in the web conference.

Sorry folks, I'm not happy about being down for an hour this morning.


 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 17 of 446: Donna  (Donna) * Tue, Dec 31, 1996 (10:42) * 1 lines
That is OK Terry it is working fine now.

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 18 of 446: Ted Chong (tedchong) * Tue, Dec 31, 1996 (11:23) * 4 lines

Thanks Terry, happy new year 1997 (it's 1997 already here in
Singapore)


 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 19 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Tue, Dec 31, 1996 (11:23) * 17 lines
On a cheerier note, Paul McCartney is now

Sir Paul McCartney


And you can read all the details in the new
Sir Paul McCartney topic in the music conference.

Please do my a favor. Do a search on Paul McCartney
and find a neat website about Paul McCartney, then
email the webmaster or whatever email address is
listed on their website and ask them to please put
a link on their page to our Paul McCartney discussion
group.

Tell them this is the link to add:

http://www.spring.com/yapp-bin/public/read/music/16

Let's see if we can honor Paul in this way! Thanks.

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 20 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Tue, Dec 31, 1996 (11:29) * 8 lines
I'm encouraging folks to do this same kind of thing all over
the Spring. If you have a favorite topic, do a search for websites
about it and then email the person in charge there to put in a link
to the Spring. Just copy the link from your browser window and sub
the word public for the word restricted. (test it)

Beep beep beep beep yeeeahhh!


 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 21 of 446: Myretta    (mrobens) * Tue, Dec 31, 1996 (13:44) * 4 lines
The Spring was down for the past hour. I apologize to Myretta, Henry and others
that may have been trying to access it

No apology necessary Terry. Been there, done that. All's well, they say, that ends well.

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 22 of 446: kathleen  (elder) * Tue, Dec 31, 1996 (15:30) * 3 lines
Terry -- thanks for getting things back together so quickly. I did try to get on this am, and kept getting called an "Unprivileged User"!! I was afraid it was something wrong w/ my system, and I am much relieved to see that all is again well.

Have a Happy!

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 23 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Tue, Dec 31, 1996 (18:07) * 2 lines
We're back. And I just got back from installing another server on
our network. So we even have more ooooomph now.

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 24 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus  (terry) * Mon, Jan 13, 1997 (05:38) * 2 lines
The austen conference is featured today on the Spring's front page. Along with a revision of the whole page. Take a trip through the past in the archives.
The new golf site is my sisters (she lives in the SF Bay area).

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 25 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sat, Feb  1, 1997 (16:25) * 3 lines
The restaurants conference has a much bigger menu of topics and a place to talk
about the best restaurant in your town and the best restaurant in the world. Any
ideas?

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 26 of 446: The Mysterious H.C.  (churchh) * Sat, Feb  1, 1997 (17:56) * 2 lines
Amy, this has started up just recently --
http://www.islandmm.com/islandmm/cgi-bin/bbs.pl?action=bbs&mbaction=msgs&item=alice

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 27 of 446: The Mysterious H.C.  (churchh) * Sat, Feb  1, 1997 (18:04) * 2 lines
Amy, this has started up just recently --
http://www.islandmm.com/islandmm/cgi-bin/bbs.pl?action=bbs&mbaction=msgs&item=alice

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 28 of 446: Amy  (Amy) * Sat, Feb  1, 1997 (18:53) * 1 lines
That board looks familiar. 

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 29 of 446: Myretta   (mrobens) * Sun, Feb  2, 1997 (12:24) * 4 lines
That board looks familiar.

Indeed. 


 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 30 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sat, Feb  8, 1997 (00:23) * 13 lines
You'll find the rest of this poem in the poetry conference. This is just a taste.

Flowing Like Spring Waters



Tonight is the night, my dear friend.
The feeling has ripened inside for months...

Every time you and I were together
Laughing, chatting, and rambling endlessly

much more in the poetry conference --------->

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 31 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sun, Feb  9, 1997 (22:45) * 5 lines
There's a new conference called 'unix' and I posted quite a few things
in the Internet and Web conferences. You'll find out about the seven new domains
that are going to be on the Internet. This will shake things up for sure. Maybe
we should get austen.art? Or eeyieeyi.io? Or spring.firm? Things are going to
get very interesting. You have to read the whole thing.

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 32 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sun, Feb  9, 1997 (22:47) * 2 lines
What are you watching on tv right now? That's a new topic in the tv conference.
Have fun with this one.

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 33 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sun, Feb  9, 1997 (22:57) * 2 lines
In the sports conference, news of a womens' sports site that has been months in
the making. Topic 39 on sports web sites ------------ go there -------------->

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 34 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sun, Feb  9, 1997 (23:08) * 3 lines
Like figure skating on ice? Then you'll like the new figure skating topic in
sports which has all the latest schedules of ice skating events on tv. And there
is a packers joke there too.

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 35 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Fri, Feb  6, 1998 (19:15) * 8 lines
Very Highly Recommended dept:

Gerard Van der Leun, boswell@well.com, has an excellent cookbook recipe for a
successful virtual community in the virtual community conference.

http://www.spring.com/yapp-bin/public/read/vc/12



 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 36 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Mon, Feb  9, 1998 (08:29) * 3 lines
Two new Michigan virtual communities are the subject of new topics
in the vc or virtual community conference: grex and m-net.


 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 37 of 446: Autumn Moore  (autumn) * Mon, Feb  9, 1998 (21:04) * 1 lines
I am trying to get an alternative medicine topic off the ground in the health conference. Even if you don't take vitamins and think acupuncture is a bunch of hooey, check it out and say so.

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 38 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Fri, Feb 13, 1998 (09:55) * 15 lines
I'd like to point out some topics getting activity in
the travel conference:

16 15 dive travel with Divine Spark
17 3 India
18 4 Micronesia and the Pacific region
19 3 Fiji

There is a fascinating tale of travel to India and
some comments from some islanders themselves in
topics 18 and 19.

Have you traveled any places that we could start a
new topic about?


 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 39 of 446: Wolf  (Wolf) * Sun, Feb 15, 1998 (11:30) * 1 lines
How about Germany, where I'm from? (Specifically Swabia)

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 40 of 446: wer  (KitchenManager) * Sun, Feb 15, 1998 (16:23) * 1 lines
Swabia?

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 41 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sun, Feb 15, 1998 (17:56) * 2 lines
Swabia?


 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 42 of 446: Wolf  (Wolf) * Sun, Feb 15, 1998 (18:30) * 2 lines
uh huh. that would be the southern country where i'm from. the city is Stuttgart.
Hi wer!

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 43 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sun, Feb 15, 1998 (21:28) * 1 lines
Sure start a topic!

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 44 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Fri, Feb 27, 1998 (20:19) * 10 lines

I put some procative posts in the Internet conference today in a new
topic. Something called Cyberwar: The Information Revolution and Warfare.

It turns out, for the last half century, the US has been intercepting
and
decrypting the top secret documents of most of the world's governments.

It's topic 22.


 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 45 of 446: Autumn Moore  (autumn) * Fri, Feb 27, 1998 (22:46) * 1 lines
Cool! What will we Yanks think up next?! :-)

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 46 of 446: Mike Griggs  (mikeg) * Fri, Feb 27, 1998 (22:53) * 1 lines
Hmm...just occured to me that this topic and "What's hot on the Spring?" rather overlap with each other. Perhaps one or the other should be frozen?

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 47 of 446: wer  (KitchenManager) * Sat, Feb 28, 1998 (01:24) * 2 lines
thumbs down on that, it would leave us one less place to babble,
and we can't have that now, can we?

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 48 of 446: Wolf  (Wolf) * Sat, Feb 28, 1998 (11:42) * 2 lines
dunno, wer, maybe we can talk the higher powers into creating a conference
just for babbling-we'd never have to leave!!

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 49 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sat, Feb 28, 1998 (13:47) * 2 lines
Good idea Mike, which one should I freeze. Anyone object?


 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 50 of 446: wer  (KitchenManager) * Sat, Feb 28, 1998 (14:01) * 2 lines
I don't know, but definitely kill 16 and 19.


 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 51 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sat, Feb 28, 1998 (14:05) * 5 lines
In music, topic 44 is Van Morrison - the Man with news of an upcoming Van
and Dylan tour. About time to pay some tribute to Van Morrison.

Gotta get me that Astral Weeks CD.


 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 52 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sat, Feb 28, 1998 (14:07) * 3 lines
Done deal on killing the redundant topics, this is now spring pointer to
other topic world headquarters.


 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 53 of 446: Wolf  (Wolf) * Sat, Feb 28, 1998 (19:32) * 3 lines
wait, what was 16 and 19??

terry, didja catch my hint for a blabbing conference? *grin*

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 54 of 446: wer  (KitchenManager) * Sun, Mar  1, 1998 (00:37) * 1 lines
they were just doubles, Wolf...

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 55 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sun, Mar  1, 1998 (09:48) * 1 lines
I got the hint, I'll hold hearings for more comment.

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 56 of 446: Wolf  (Wolf) * Sun, Mar  1, 1998 (12:48) * 1 lines
thanks *smile*

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 57 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Mon, Mar  2, 1998 (02:23) * 9 lines
What's hot, hot, hot.

News. There's now a whole news conference.

Go there and find out stuff you should know (maybe), talk about your
Spring anniversary, discuss spam, enter your offsite email address if you
care to do so, request favors, talk about springeurs who have hit the big
time or made the news, pat yourself on the back, and find out about
places to go and things to do.

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 58 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Mon, Mar  2, 1998 (02:56) * 8 lines
In the media conference, bet you didn't know we had one, there's a new
topic on the Drudge Report.

My friend Judith Lewis of the LA Weekly is just down the streeet from
Matt Drudge and has been known to pay him a visit every so often.

Go to media and get in on this drudgery.


 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 59 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Mon, Mar  2, 1998 (03:14) * 2 lines
And also something about our homeboys. Guess where?


 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 60 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Mon, Mar  2, 1998 (04:45) * 20 lines
Let's rewind to June 22, 1995 and pick up where we left off.

Nike was there. So was Gena.

GenX is back!!!!!!

Here's the scoop:


1 4 genx conference bidness
2 1 genXer intros
3 0 drugs
4 1 sex or . . .
5 1 Embarassing Things I Did in the '80s
6 1 First jobs from hell and beyond

... and a total of 64 topics to come

Melissa Marie, I still love you.


 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 61 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Mon, Mar  2, 1998 (04:54) * 5 lines
The Spring's original topic list from 1995:

http://www.spring.com:/~dbii/forum/confs/confs.html



 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 62 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Wed, Mar  4, 1998 (07:06) * 24 lines
Some very good thoughts on the CFP conference in the last
topic in our cfp conference:

From: Lorrie Faith Cranor

[For the past five years I have written a Computers, Freedom and
Privacy conference report (see the archive at=20

http://www.research.att.com/~lorrie/pubs/cfp.html). This year,
turned the job over to Danielle Gallo, an undergraduate student who
has been working with me. Feel free to forward this report.
-- Lorrie Cranor]

Danielle Gallo's CFP98 Conference Report

Computers, Freedom and Privacy '98 was held February 18-20 at the
Austin, Texas Hyatt Regency Hotel. Although there have been eight in
total, this is the first CFP I attended. The program featured daily
single-track sessions, lunch breakout sessions, and several concurrent
tutorials.

. . . contines with her extensive observations.

A good read! Recommended.

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 63 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Wed, Mar  4, 1998 (07:14) * 42 lines
Letter to me and Mike:


Sounds like a good trade to me. I am doing a CGI project for the
Exploratorium in San Francisco on a volunteer basis and that is why I
need the test space. I don't have years of experience doing this, but
there are some prewritten CGI libraries available that allow a developer
to write a CGI script that will put up the HTML form and collect the
data. At this point I would have to say that I could probably write the
part that put up the HTML and collected the data. So, in that regard,
let me take a stab at what I think you might mean.

Name:
Email:
What you do in real life:
Favorite sites on the web:
Other interests, and miscellaneous biographical information:

Other or different fields that you have in mind:

A couple of areas that I am going to have to do some research on, or get
ideas about:

If there are variables that I can access for the visitor's email
address, or am I going to
have to make them enter it by hand.

How to link the information I collect to the visitor's alias. Maybe
the people at the Well
would be willing to part with some secrets in that regard.

Anyway, I think it would be fun to be involved in writing the CGI script
for this, and if the library I mentioned is loaded, or could be loaded,
on the server, I don't think it would be too
much work to get to the point of having the form displayed and
collecting the information.

Let me know what fields and other form elements you think should be in
there. I will follow up with some questions for Terry.

Regards,
Bill

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 64 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Wed, Mar  4, 1998 (10:10) * 30 lines
Allie McBeal, a new topic in the tv confernce (and also 'babes').

See, there's this tv show called Ally McBeal. And it features three
*hot babes*. That little bit of sexual subconscious out of the way,
let me say it's a very funny show. It's a great show, I'll go even further.

It's about a law firm. And Allie's ex lover just happens to be a
member of the firm and he's married to a gal that has a jaw and blonde hair
that Allie doesn't have. Billy, the ex lover of Allie, has mixed
emotions And Allie has become friends with Billy's wife.

We're talking age ranges of 25-28 here, folks.

My theory is that this is a guy type show, and that women will find it
embarassing. I don't think it will end up on the feminist top ten
listing of tv shows, maybe the bottom ten. The women are too cute
and too bimboish at times. And the women aren't the aggressive, free
wheeling Marcia Clark types, they're quite timid usually.

But how can you not like a show whose lead actress is

*** Calista Flockhart ***

That name just does it for me. I would love to have a girlfriend like
her just so I could introduce her to people. Uh, I'd like you to meet
my girlfriend, *Calista Flockhart*. Dream, dream.

I'll have more to say about Allie McBeal. It's my favorite tv show. I
hope others will join me in this quaint little discussion.


 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 65 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Wed, Mar  4, 1998 (10:15) * 9 lines
Jordan's up to bat, does that mean Lewinsky's in the on deck circle.

Politics, in the topic on the Clinton Presidency.

Hey, it's great to see the new conferences, news and genx, off to such a
roaring start! I have a lot more surprises in store in both conferences
in the way of stome startling new topics. Stay tuned.



 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 66 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Wed, Mar  4, 1998 (10:18) * 12 lines
There's an *awesome* array of new material in the cfp conference.
Warning, this is heady stuff, the legal and moral consequences of
today's cyberspace mileau and the implications for our future freedom,
privacy and lives are freely discussed. It's a stretch to get past the
gate, but the effort may be worth your time.

Danielle's observations are far reaching and comprehensive in her
roundup of the confernce. Danielle Gallo, on CFP98.

j cfp.



 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 67 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Wed, Mar  4, 1998 (10:29) * 7 lines
The most underutilized, ready for prime time conference on the Spring
that has potential for future stardom:

cultures

Hear me now, or hear me later. Pump it up!


 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 68 of 446: wer  (KitchenManager) * Wed, Mar  4, 1998 (13:28) * 1 lines
Yes, dad.

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 69 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Wed, Mar  4, 1998 (21:47) * 1 lines
Dad!!!

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 70 of 446: Autumn Moore  (autumn) * Thu, Mar  5, 1998 (02:49) * 1 lines
Is there something you want to share with us, Terry??

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 71 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Thu, Mar  5, 1998 (04:15) * 2 lines
You mean I haven't been forthcoming, autumn?


 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 72 of 446: Wolf  (Wolf) * Sat, Mar  7, 1998 (17:36) * 3 lines
ok, terry (aka wer's dad).....

Hi Autumn!

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 73 of 446: Autumn Moore  (autumn) * Sat, Mar  7, 1998 (23:17) * 1 lines
Heya, Wolfie, havin' a good weekend? :-) Mine has been soooo relaxing....

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 74 of 446: Wolf  (Wolf) * Sun, Mar  8, 1998 (16:47) * 8 lines
not really, kinda stressin', been working on my site and trying to figure out
what the deal is with this browser.......

got the baby girl's ears pierced yesterday, she did soooo good. the part she
can't handle is the cleaning and turning the posts, but today it is going much
better and she's doing it for herself. am very proud of her. the whole thing
was her decision, told her she didn't have to if she didn't want to, but she
was gung ho!

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 75 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Mon, Mar  9, 1998 (13:16) * 3 lines
Good coverage by Gary Chapman of the Bruce Sterling speech in the cfp
conference. j cfp


 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 76 of 446: Autumn Moore  (autumn) * Tue, Mar 10, 1998 (11:58) * 1 lines
My older daughter came to me yesterday asking for pierced ears for her birthday (she'll be 6). Her dad said age 15, I said 10, so it'll probably be next year! How old is your little girl?

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 77 of 446: Wolf  (Wolf) * Tue, Mar 10, 1998 (20:46) * 4 lines
4, she'll be 5 next month (didn't we have that conversation before?) didn't get
mine done til i was 16 cuz the big d said heck no. we let her think about it
for a while and i carefully explained the whole thing, my big thing was letting
her make up her own mind, you know?

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 78 of 446: Autumn Moore  (autumn) * Wed, Mar 11, 1998 (15:44) * 2 lines
yeah, but mine also wants to be bald (she literally cries about wanting to have her head shaved), black (which I can do nothing about) and handicapped (which I'm tempted to do something about--just kidding!) So giving her too much control is definitely o
ut of the question. Oh, she also wants me to get a job so she can go to day care (just tear out my heart, I tell her!)

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 79 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Wed, Mar 11, 1998 (15:47) * 2 lines
Babe of the week in babes. I know, we pale next to drool.


 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 80 of 446: Wolf  (Wolf) * Wed, Mar 11, 1998 (19:40) * 4 lines
what is this an invite?

Autumn, my daughter hasn't gone that far yet! she wants me to tell my boss i'm
not coming back so i can be with her! (she's mama's for sure)

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 81 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Thu, Mar 12, 1998 (18:49) * 12 lines
New topics in the news conference:

Asteroid!

WASHINGTON (AP) -- It's not time to panic, but Earthlings need to keep
an eye on a mile-wide asteroid that will zip very close to the Earth
in 30 years and could even smash into the planet, causing widespread
destruction, astronomers say.

Is it time to book that flight to Mars or is this a bunch of hype?
Discuss among yourselves in the news conference topic called Asteroid!


 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 82 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Thu, Mar 12, 1998 (18:54) * 6 lines
That will be the year 2028 in case you need to mark your calendars.
It will be 1:30 on a Thursday morning. October 26, 2028. Thursday. 1:30
am. Got that?

Did you have anything planned for that day?


 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 83 of 446: Wolf  (Wolf) * Thu, Mar 12, 1998 (23:22) * 2 lines
wait.....do dayrunners plan that far in advance? (anyway, it's gonna be a near
miss by about 600,000 miles)

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 84 of 446: Mike Griggs  (mikeg) * Fri, Mar 13, 1998 (00:04) * 3 lines
I was very concerned about this when I saw it on the news. As a student of geophysics, and the science of major collisions, if this thing hits it's going to be The Big One. For the religious ones amongst you (including me), it's time to get your on your
knees =)


 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 85 of 446: Wolf  (Wolf) * Fri, Mar 13, 1998 (00:07) * 1 lines
hey, it's going to MISS US......

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 86 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Fri, Mar 13, 1998 (13:26) * 6 lines
Maybe. It will be four months till they have accurate calculations. But
even if was aimed dead center at Manhattan, they'd turn it into a media
circus and attach rockets to it and turn it into a theme park and steer
it into a different orbit. And the commercials would dwarf what it costs
to put an ad on the superbowl.


 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 87 of 446: mike derl  (drool) * Fri, Mar 13, 1998 (18:46) * 5 lines
I wondering Terry what did you mean you pale next to drool?
I'm chewing my nails waiting for the day my son will be born.
So please you guys don't scare me so that I start chewing my fingers...
O.K. thanks,
drool

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 88 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Fri, Mar 13, 1998 (18:56) * 2 lines
I meant drool the conference!!! ha!


 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 89 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sat, Mar 14, 1998 (04:08) * 4 lines
A certain Gerard van der Leun, boswell, shows up doubting the Spring will
make it, and giving it poor grades. He posts in the Spring's most
infrequently utilized Internet conference.


 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 90 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sat, Mar 14, 1998 (18:21) * 3 lines
A photography topic is now in the art conference. I talk about some
findings I got re: 3d photography.


 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 91 of 446: mike derl  (drool) * Sat, Mar 14, 1998 (20:32) * 4 lines
terry, theres a confrencecalled drool? really? How do I get there from here?
I am sorry if I offended you or anything.
drool, the person


 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 92 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sun, Mar 15, 1998 (08:30) * 2 lines
There's a link to it from our main http://www.spring.net page.
Wow, just getting used to that dot net!

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 93 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sun, Mar 15, 1998 (10:09) * 4 lines
I will be giving a live talk via realaudio at http://www.spring.net today
and call ins will be accepted (512.303.4000), it will be a live internet
"talk show".


 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 94 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sun, Mar 15, 1998 (13:19) * 9 lines
Rush Limbaugh has come out in favor of legalization of marijuana.

Full details in the Rush Room topic in the radio conference.

This is not a joke, he did come out in favor of legalization.

It happened March 12 10:40 am pst. Three times!



 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 95 of 446: nick a'hannay  (pmnh) * Sun, Mar 15, 1998 (15:51) * 4 lines
wasn't limbaugh one of the bastards that so unmercifully
tormented clinton's first surgeon-general (forget her name)
for basically saying that we should consider decriminalization
of some drugs?

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 96 of 446: Autumn Moore  (autumn) * Sun, Mar 15, 1998 (16:18) * 1 lines
I'll guess Jocelyn Elders, if we're talking about the "pro-decriminalization/pro-masturbation" surgeon general.

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 97 of 446: nick a'hannay  (pmnh) * Sun, Mar 15, 1998 (16:32) * 8 lines
what elders (thank you) said was that it (decriminalization) was
an issue that merited discussion... she's in good company with that
view...
re: masturbation, don't think it really means a tinker's damn what her
opinion is, one way or the other...
(and regardless of one's view, really must ask one's self where republicans
would be, without it?...(especially rush)... they're certainly repressed
enough, as it is)...

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 98 of 446: nick a'hannay  (pmnh) * Sun, Mar 15, 1998 (16:35) * 1 lines
(hi autumn)

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 99 of 446: Autumn Moore  (autumn) * Sun, Mar 15, 1998 (16:37) * 1 lines
Just mentioned that, because she'll forever be remembered for her ideas on masturbation rather than decriminalization...

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 100 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sun, Mar 15, 1998 (19:35) * 2 lines
We'll be going live with our talk show again in an hour.


 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 101 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Mon, Mar 16, 1998 (08:48) * 8 lines
Right here on the Spring we had an event that shocked even the hoary old
WELL. Sunday, we all went live and really "met" one another for the
first time, I only wish I had pumped it up more on the spring. Next
Sunday we'll do it again. It was a gas, gas, gas. See Mikes topic 26
in this conference.

What should we call this? Sunday Night Live on the Spring?


 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 102 of 446: mike derl  (drool) * Wed, Mar 18, 1998 (19:08) * 3 lines
About the canabis thing out of the 265 chemicals in tobbaco I think 80 of them cause cancer. out of the 18 chemicals in pot none are known too cause cancer...
also a hemp plant produces forty percent more wood products than the trees
being cut down now. I wouldn't mind being able to smoke my coffee table occasionally. hahahah DROOL,

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 103 of 446: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Thu, Mar 19, 1998 (10:41) * 1 lines
*smile*

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 104 of 446: Mike Griggs  (mikeg) * Thu, Mar 19, 1998 (10:59) * 2 lines
Yeah, cannabis is great apart from the mind-threatening hallucinations and permanent psychological disturbances (e.g. Schizophrenia)


 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 105 of 446: Autumn Moore  (autumn) * Thu, Mar 19, 1998 (12:45) * 1 lines
Wow, that explains a lot....

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 106 of 446: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Thu, Mar 19, 1998 (18:21) * 1 lines
aha!

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 107 of 446: mike derl  (drool) * Thu, Mar 19, 1998 (19:49) * 10 lines
Where in the world did you hear that pot causes schizt. I know that it can stunt your emotional growth if you start at a young age. I think you've been
watching to many of those old anti-pot movies. Did you know thatthe gov. did a
test were they gave a mentally disturb man some L.S.D and twelve hours later
{when he came down} he was no longer clasified as mentally disturbed.
If you ever get to the library of congress you should look up these facts.
Knowlege Is Power. {or at least understanding..} I do not condone the use
of L.S.D. {at least not the street stuff, never know whats in that crap}
Remember the gov. has all of the best drugs. And clinton did inhale...
And probly still does.
Drool

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 108 of 446: Mike Griggs  (mikeg) * Thu, Mar 19, 1998 (20:13) * 2 lines
read it in a newspaper article, quoting some recent research at a UK university. I'll look it up again and post it for you


 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 109 of 446: Mike Griggs  (mikeg) * Thu, Mar 19, 1998 (20:23) * 25 lines
this is an extract, since the article is about 500 words

-- BEGIN QUOTE
"We do not yet know enough about its causes to say how schizophrenia can be prevented, but one specific factor is important: drug use."

SANE continues by pointing out that cannabis can cause ahllucinations and paranoid delusions similar to those found in schizophrenia. The psychotic effects induced by these drugs do not always clear up readily, and there is some evidence that they may tr
igger a prolonged schizophrenic illness. In addition, such drugs can cause a relapse in an established illness.

Most doctors have harrowing stories of psychotic breakdown after a young person has been exposed to cannabis. Detailed research is scant, although a study of the role of cannabis in precipitating schizophrenia in Swedish men who had undertaken national s
ervice seemed tod demonstrate a clear link. It is usually considered unlikely that smoking cannabis could be a primary cause of schizophrenia, but likely that it could be a factor in the condition's development in those who are unfortunate enough to have

a genetic susceptibility.

...

Apart from its intoxicating effects and any persistent damage to the psyche, cannabis may also cause acute anxiety or a panic reaction, particularly if the plant has been bred to give a high yield of cannabinoids, a type of cannabis referred to as "skunk"
. Panic attacks may be treated with benzodiazepines, acute psychotic reactions with neuroleptic drugs. Smoking cannabis mixed with tobacco combines the delterious effects of both plants on the air passages.

The ill effects of cannabis are not confied to the brain and lungs. it also causes impotence in men, reduces the sperm count and alters the reproductive hormonal systems. babies born to cannabis-smoking mothers are smaller than average, and feed and set
tle less well.

-- END QUOTE

Dr Thomas Stuttaford, The Times (Tuesday, 17 March, 1998)


 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 110 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Thu, Mar 19, 1998 (21:39) * 27 lines
Helen Huth died
crossing the bridge
over the river
in Cape Girardeau Missouri.
She was a college student.

I loved her and I loved her poems.

I got a batch of her poetry in the
mail today from Merle Busch,
who is trying to dig up some more of her
work, about 150 poems,
which we are praying are not lost forever.

What a loss for the world,
that she died so young
and didn't get to keep
writing these poems and
that we only have a
few scraps from her prolific output.

Reading these today,
tears came to my eyes,
and I had to go for a
long walk in the woods.



 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 111 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Thu, Mar 19, 1998 (21:43) * 3 lines
A few of the ones I got
are posted in the poetry conference.
In a topic called Helen Huths poems.

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 112 of 446: Stacey Vura  (stacey) * Thu, Mar 19, 1998 (22:35) * 2 lines
forgive me Paul, I do not know of the woman you speak...
but I will wander over to 'poetry' and see what I can discover.

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 113 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Thu, Mar 19, 1998 (23:44) * 2 lines
I think you will discover some magic.


 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 114 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Fri, Mar 20, 1998 (09:08) * 5 lines
Today at 1:55 is the start of Spring!

We should have an online cyberparty!

It's also this Spring's anniversary.

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 115 of 446: wer  (KitchenManager) * Fri, Mar 20, 1998 (10:34) * 1 lines
Yee-haw!!!

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 116 of 446: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Fri, Mar 20, 1998 (10:42) * 1 lines
WooWoo!

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 117 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Fri, Mar 20, 1998 (12:18) * 9 lines
Our fourth anniversary, since we officially went live on the web on the
exact beginning of Spring four years ago. And this is the tenth
anniversary of the Spring as an organization which started on this date
in 1988.

We'll be live on the web at 1:55 pm today CST if anyone wants to call
in or post something (I'll read it aloud via our realaudio server).



 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 118 of 446: Autumn Moore  (autumn) * Fri, Mar 20, 1998 (14:48) * 1 lines
boing, boing--happy spring!

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 119 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Mon, Mar 23, 1998 (06:47) * 18 lines
A new topic, number 260 has been started to discuss the potential for
bring the show "My Solitary Elegance" to Austin.

from Karen Hannum (sunflower@well.com):

A friend of mine from England is bringing her show on Jane Austen, "My
Solitary Elegance", to the US for a very limited run. It has enjoyed
a great deal of success in England and Scotland including being
featured on BBC2.

It will be performed in San Franciso from October 2nd-5th at the Jane
Austen Society of North America AGM. She has some open dates from the
6th through the 8th and would be interested in filling these
bookings.

Perhaps at a college or some other venue. If anyone is interested -
please contact me at and I can put you in touch
with her. Thank you...

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 120 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Mon, Mar 23, 1998 (06:57) * 8 lines
Oh, I didn't mention that this topic is in the austen conference.

I plan on attending the international Jane Austen conference in SF and
promote the Spring's austen conference. Also, I've registered the name

austen.com



 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 121 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Mon, Mar 23, 1998 (08:37) * 7 lines
Good Will Hunting.

Titantic.

New topics in the movies conference.

Have you seen these? Comment in movies!

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 122 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Mon, Mar 23, 1998 (22:11) * 3 lines
If you drop in tonight or later on, come by and comment on this years
Oscars in topic 29. Hot. Now.


 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 123 of 446: mike derl  (drool) * Tue, Mar 24, 1998 (18:04) * 10 lines
mikeg, Well without getting long winded you did say the sickness was potentialy
pre-exsisting sickness,. If pot was not illegal people would not get peranoid and annxious. as for impotence, I have aa very high sperm count and am expecting
a strong and healthy baby boy to arrive any day. as for sexual drive well
three times a day doesn't sound like a {decreased sex drive} as you so said.
If you take a trip to Amterdam, you would see that somking hemp,pot,skunk,red hair sinns.,ganja, the bomb, bolo rolo,canabis,canaboid,the huch-cauw,a blunt,
or canabis sativa, mota, purple, blue, green, or gold haired marajajuana,
is not so detrimental to a persons health as you might be lead to beleive by
the Ronald Regan, Nancy Drew (just say noer's} people.
theend
drool...

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 124 of 446: Autumn Moore  (autumn) * Wed, Mar 25, 1998 (23:39) * 1 lines
Funny, I always pictured Nancy Drew for a "Mary Jane" girl....

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 125 of 446: wer  (KitchenManager) * Thu, Mar 26, 1998 (01:47) * 1 lines
I think I saw that movie...

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 126 of 446: Stacey Vura  (stacey) * Thu, Mar 26, 1998 (17:22) * 2 lines
purty graphics!
The visuals almost make up for the ridiculously slow pace through a browser.

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 127 of 446: wer  (KitchenManager) * Thu, Mar 26, 1998 (18:07) * 1 lines
You at home, or a different setup at school?

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 128 of 446: Stacey Vura  (stacey) * Fri, Mar 27, 1998 (04:30) * 5 lines
at home.

and now I'm at home again, up at a ridiculously early hour, suffering from a bad case of insomnia.

*sigh*

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 129 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Fri, Mar 27, 1998 (08:47) * 7 lines
Did you drink too much caffeine.

I'm in California up at a ridiculously early hour
cause I'm still on Austintime. I'm out here because
my mom's condition is pretty serious. Lung cancer from
years of smoking. She's having an opertion and some
chemo treatmetns this week.

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 130 of 446: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Fri, Mar 27, 1998 (10:34) * 8 lines
good luck, Paul. To you and your mom.
Sounds like nasty stuff, I'll be thinking good thoughts.

No, not too much caffeine.
Rain.
It rains so rarely in Colorado through the winter that when it starts up in Spring it's always too loud for me to sleep. Snow is very quiet coming down *smile*

I wasn't up for too long. The whirr of the computer soon lulled me back to sleep.

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 131 of 446: Mike Griggs  (mikeg) * Fri, Mar 27, 1998 (14:09) * 6 lines
I love the sound of rain when I don't have to get up and go out in it. Lying in my bed at about 5am, the weather lashing against the glass, is one of my favourite times.

And, moving back on topic, the new community I'm involved in developing, Farrawae, seems to have accelerated from an absolute stop to a snail's pace, which means things are happening! You can check out the
website (I encourage you to do so - get a feel for what we're doing!), and then drop into the Farrawae conference to catch up on what's been going on! 



 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 132 of 446: wer  (KitchenManager) * Fri, Mar 27, 1998 (16:18) * 1 lines
My best wishes, also, Terry...

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 133 of 446: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Fri, Mar 27, 1998 (17:40) * 6 lines
My big news:


SPRING BREAK!!!
starts now!
all the kiddos are on busses and I'm hankering for a magarita!

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 134 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sat, Mar 28, 1998 (21:44) * 5 lines
I'm in Walnut Creek with my son watchin' the Final Four and taking care
of mom. Party on Stace.

Where ya goin for break?


 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 135 of 446: orange  (orange) * Sun, Mar 29, 1998 (13:47) * 4 lines
terry, very sorry about the family illness,

i understand now why you have been scarce.
hope everything goes well 

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 136 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sun, Mar 29, 1998 (14:27) * 4 lines
Thanks orange. Mom is doing well. And I'm tripping around with my kid
in SF and Santa Rosa and trying to hook up with some old friends like
fig@well.com


 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 137 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Mon, Mar 30, 1998 (11:49) * 6 lines
And we're back. We're having problems with the domain change.
Please email terry@spring.net if you notice that our system is down.
And I'll get it back up and running

Sorry for the downtime folks!


 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 138 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Mon, Mar 30, 1998 (11:50) * 6 lines
Or call 512.303.4000.

Either way. Please let me know if you can't get in!

Terry


 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 139 of 446: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Mon, Mar 30, 1998 (13:37) * 7 lines
Spring Break plans have changed a few times...
first it was going to be Washington DC for a long weekend of museums, Ethiopian food, skating along the Potomac, etc. But since this is Cherry Blossom time, tickets were cost prohibitive.
Then it was going to be four days of primitive camping in Fruita Wednesday - Sunday.
Then it was going to be three days of primitve camping in Arches Nat. Park and Moab Sat - Tues. (Brandon's business travel keeps f***ing everything up!)
BUt NOW it will be Stacey tagging along to Savannah GA w/ B on a consulting job and B taking an extra few days to play around in the garden of good and evil!
I'm excited. And Saturday we biked thru Denver in search of "Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil."
BTW excellent book!

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 140 of 446: Autumn Moore  (autumn) * Mon, Mar 30, 1998 (20:56) * 1 lines
Terry, I too am sorry to hear about your mother's health problems. I'm sure it means a lot to her to have you there. Thanks again for helping me out last night. Enjoy the time you're having with your mom and son.

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 141 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus  (terry) * Tue, Mar 31, 1998 (11:20) * 16 lines
I'm in SF, and having a good time, the system seems to be having a
few glitches every now and then but I emailed our system admin, jeff@www.spring.net about them. I just fixed the date. I notice we're
having our year 2000 problem again.

Yesterday we went and visited Brian Zisk (San Franziskgo website) in SF,
and then met in a little bistro in Mill Valley with Cliff Figallo, who just got a
conference hosting job with Salon. And then out to dinner at a great Thai
place in Santa Rosa. Mom is doing well. And Shey is still beating the pants
off me on the basketball court, it's hard to compete against 6'5" of muscle.

I hope I can keep this system together with band aids till I get back, sorry for any downtime!

The domain name change from spring.com to spring.net will fully take place in the next few days, so please remember our new address is

http://www.spring.net 


 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 142 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus  (terry) * Tue, Mar 31, 1998 (11:21) * 5 lines
Or alternatively, it's always:

http://206.97.234.70

In case our name server has fits.

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 143 of 446: wer  (KitchenManager) * Tue, Mar 31, 1998 (16:09) * 1 lines
Like this morning?

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 144 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Tue, Mar 31, 1998 (17:01) * 7 lines
In the vc.6 topic (Virtual Communities) are details of
Vassilios Koronakis (vassilio@well.com) affair with
Stacy Horn. Some pretty juicy insider stuff about the
doyenne of ECHO by one of its most controversial members.

Sizzzling tale... j vc and read topic 6


 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 145 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sun, Apr 12, 1998 (23:51) * 20 lines
Myretta emailed me a while ago and said we were down.

So I just rebooted the server. Sorry folks, I been out
doin' nonvirtual stuff today.

In the event you notice you can't get in, please email

jeff@spring.net

and

terry@spring.net

And one of us will get things moving again. Wish I had heard
about this sooner!

I started a coupla new topics in genx. Check 'em out!




 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 146 of 446: wer  (KitchenManager) * Mon, Apr 13, 1998 (08:16) * 2 lines
Sorry, Terry, I thought it was down cause you was grep-ing... 


 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 147 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Tue, Apr 14, 1998 (00:21) * 2 lines
What me grep?


 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 148 of 446: wer  (KitchenManager) * Tue, Apr 14, 1998 (00:43) * 1 lines
Well, I had heard that was the plan...

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 149 of 446: Wolf  (Wolf) * Tue, Apr 14, 1998 (21:25) * 2 lines
terry sorry about helen and your mom, hope she's doing well. live talks? oh my,
not sure if i'm ready for that, everyone thinks i'm a kid when i answer the phone or answer the door-uh, is your mom there? *giggle* please post whenever you plan to have another one *smile*

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 150 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Wed, Apr 22, 1998 (23:44) * 5 lines
Wanted. Person to drive my Buick Regal (30,000 miles on it) from the SF
Bay area to Austin, Texas. I'll pay $200 and put you up for a week in
Austin free and wine and dine you. Serious about this. I need to get
this car out here.


 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 151 of 446: Stacey Vura  (stacey) * Thu, Apr 23, 1998 (00:55) * 1 lines
So tempted... so tempted...

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 152 of 446: wer  (KitchenManager) * Thu, Apr 23, 1998 (01:09) * 1 lines
What else would it take, Stace?

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 153 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Thu, Apr 23, 1998 (05:46) * 4 lines
I have several semi-serious inquiries so far but nothing solid. The car
is in Walnut Creek, CA at my moms place. If you could do this Stacey,
that would be great!


 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 154 of 446: Mike Griggs  (mikeg) * Thu, Apr 23, 1998 (18:38) * 2 lines
would you fly me out to SF, too? :-) 


 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 155 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Thu, Apr 23, 1998 (18:44) * 2 lines
Nice try.


 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 156 of 446: Autumn Moore  (autumn) * Thu, Apr 23, 1998 (22:36) * 1 lines
Hey Terry, why don't you get that author whose doing book signings in SF and Austin to do it? :-)

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 157 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Fri, Apr 24, 1998 (06:15) * 1 lines
Autumn! What a knack for putting things together! 

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 158 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Tue, Apr 28, 1998 (23:49) * 6 lines
Here's a pointer to talk about the NBC miniseries that showed the other night:

Merlin

Find a discussion in topic 17 in 'babes' and in the tv conference. 


 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 159 of 446: wer  (KitchenManager) * Wed, Apr 29, 1998 (02:26) * 3 lines
(and just ignore anything I might say in either one...
apparently I am tired past the point of my usual inabiliy
to post coherently...)

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 160 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Wed, Apr 29, 1998 (08:09) * 4 lines
Just regroup William and take another run at it, because you seem to have
some insight and perception in this area of Arthurian legend (surpassing
that of your knowledge of babe-onomics).


 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 161 of 446: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Thu, Apr 30, 1998 (16:39) * 1 lines
really?????

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 162 of 446: wer  (KitchenManager) * Thu, Apr 30, 1998 (17:36) * 1 lines
Surprised, Stacey?????

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 163 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Thu, Apr 30, 1998 (23:46) * 17 lines
Gary Chapman asked me a question and a favor.

You have probably heard about the shooting of Texas Monthly writer Jan Reid
down in Mexico City last week. Jan is in the hospital in Houston now,
recovering. (Jan is a friend of Garys.)

A bunch of people in Austin are putting together a fundraiser for him at
the Driskill Hotel on May 9th. Jan can't be there, obviously, because he'll
still be in the Rehab Hospital in Houston.

Gary was wondering is if I knew how we might get a live video feed over
the net to Jan from the Driskill. They're going to check to see if there's a
fast net connection in the hospital itself, but Gary'd like to
investigate how he'd handle his end at the gig.

So I'm volunteering and looking for someone to assist me, someone with a
good on camera presence to interview folks.

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 164 of 446: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Fri, May  1, 1998 (17:21) * 1 lines
yes WER. Surprised (and ticklish!)

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 165 of 446: wer  (KitchenManager) * Sat, May  2, 1998 (02:18) * 1 lines
Back on the tickle contest thing again, are we?

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 166 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sat, May  2, 1998 (09:42) * 36 lines
In topic 8 in the art conference, Lenadams Dorris vegas@well.com
Enigma is the focus of discussion, visit her website and comment.

Lenadams:
Hello, everyone...I've been pretty absent lately, mostly because my
cafe, the Enigma, has been so terribly busy. We're up to 14 employees now!

We were honored to again win in the 1998 Best of Las Vegas Awards, this
time for "Best Art Scene." Many of you have stopped by to visit when in
Las Vegas, which is wonderful. You may be interested to know that we
are about to celebrate our fifth anniversary, with ten days of art,
music and spoken word events.

I redesigned our web site to bring it all
up to date, and included an ongoing scrapbook of pictures of the Enigma
and its people and things, if you want to get a better idea of what we
look like.

Some of you will remember that on our third birthday in 1996, a lot of
WELLbeings sent postcards to help us celebrate our grand re-opening
after renovations. While many of those cards are still around, many
have been lost to time and careless coffee drinkers.

If any of you are into it, we'd love to get a bunch of new cards from
all over the world (in the scrapbook you can see some of the cards
pasted to the front of the coffee counter...) People love seeing all
the cards, and we love hearing from our far-flung friends.

If you want to send postcards, our address is:
Enigma Garden Cafe (or just "Enigma")
918 South Fourth Street
Las Vegas, NV 89101

Thanks everyone...even when I am not online so much, you are my
extended family who has helped keep me going all these years. Smooch!


 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 167 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sat, May  2, 1998 (09:59) * 12 lines
In the media conference, linked to the news conference:

Item 30 entered Sat, May 2, 1998 (08:58) by Paul Terry Walhus (terry)
Live from LA, it's suicide on the freeway!

They just has a live broadcast of a freeway suicide in LA, with
closeup shots of someones head being blow off as they popped off a shotgun.

We are at the point where everyone must know everything that's going
on as it happens. Both a new low in journalism and a taste of the
future.


 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 168 of 446: Mike Griggs  (mikeg) * Sun, May  3, 1998 (11:58) * 2 lines
euwwww 


 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 169 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sat, May  9, 1998 (09:03) * 3 lines
Riette is on a roll in philosophy. She's got the scoop on truth, wisdom
and even started up a new topic. Glad to see Riette jumping in to this
little known backwater of the Spring.

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 170 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sun, May 10, 1998 (06:00) * 2 lines
Riette has taken philoslophy by storm. I think she's a night person!


 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 171 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sun, May 10, 1998 (14:56) * 2 lines
New topic in travel: England.


 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 172 of 446: Mike Griggs  (mikeg) * Mon, May 11, 1998 (19:54) * 2 lines
wooo hoooo.....i'm pilin' in there! 


 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 173 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Wed, May 13, 1998 (08:23) * 32 lines
Windows Conference: Texas vs. Microsoft

(AG wants to raise campaign funds and keep job. Bolt from sky tells him
he is barking up wrong tree.)

Texas Puts Off Action Against Microsoft (05/12/98; 8:58 p.m. ET) By Kora
McNaughton, TechWeb

Pressure from Texas-based licensees of Microsoft Windows has given pause
to that state's attorney general, Dan Morales, who was expected to file
an antitrust lawsuit against Microsoft later this week.

In a statement issued Tuesday, Morales said, "Before contemplating any
legal action against Microsoft, I feel it is prudent and wise to
personally hear the concerns of our Texas-based companies." Morales will
meet with the Companies over the next few weeks.

Morales said his office has received letters from several Texas computer
executives worried that a lawsuit against Microsoft would "negatively
impact" their companies and the state as a whole.

Morales' postponement of any action is an additional boost for Microsoft,
which won an important victory against the Justice Department Tuesday
when a federal appeals court ruled that Internet Explorer may be bundled
with Windows 98.

Expectations have been building that several state attorneys general and
the Justice Department were readying broad antitrust complaints against
Microsoft, but Morales' statement indicates such lawsuits may not happen
for weeks, if at all. 



 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 174 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Wed, May 13, 1998 (09:46) * 11 lines
The tv conference:

5 19 Seinfeld

Tomorrow night, Thursday, is the Last Seinfeld. Some folks are watching
jsut for the commercials.

The show about nothing is no longer. Just re-runs for here on out.

The cast is going to be on the Tonight Show.


 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 175 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Thu, May 14, 1998 (22:10) * 18 lines
Daniel Cardenas wrote:

The Justice Conference will focus on topics of criminal justice. Sample
top ics could be Death Penalty v. Life, rehabilitation v. punishment,
juvenile justice, women in prison, ethnic makeup of jails and prisons.
Also could talk about serial killers, famous prisoners now in prison,
current prison cases, laws, crime, statistics, studies, etc.. It could go
into Native American law, white collar crime v. blue collar,
constitutional law. My plan for getting conversation going, is to talk to
friends of mine to signing up, also, since I am new, I havent
participated in any conversat ions yet. Through those conversations, I
could steer people to the Justice conference.

So, now there is a 'justice' conference.

j justice



 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 176 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sat, May 16, 1998 (12:57) * 11 lines
Austin's still "smokin'". Literally. A surreal pall hangs over us as
smoke blows in from Mexican fires out of control.

Check out topic 28 in the austin conference or topic 7 in the environment
conference (they're crosslinked).

air Austin

The Mexican government procrastinates and the US Governement does a
"study" while Austinites choke.


 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 177 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sun, May 17, 1998 (11:21) * 4 lines
I hope Riette sticks around, I look forward every day to reading her cool
insights in the philosophy conference.

New in the spirit conference, a topic on the Sufi Order and Sufi dancing.

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 178 of 446: wer  (KitchenManager) * Wed, May 20, 1998 (01:06) * 2 lines
you mean like the Kavadi(sp?)? 


 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 179 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Wed, May 20, 1998 (08:57) * 5 lines
Guess who's back?

Howard Fredrics!

Great!

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 180 of 446: wer  (KitchenManager) * Fri, May 22, 1998 (03:13) * 15 lines
Jim Moss aka Leplep Le Plep is doing his fair share in
Philosophy, also, things are getting quite interesting
in there...

and, this in from Wolf (and edited, a little, of course...):

Hi Wer!!

Dude, thanks for writing me. It's good to hear from familiar folks.
You can write here all the time, I do have regular access to it. As for
the Spring, I do that when I'm not working and won't be on it as often
as before for the time being. It's very very hot here, but it's not too
bad. Drink lots of water and stay cool. Got up to 120 the other day,
whew! But it's a dry heat *laugh*. Talk later, Elke :)
mswolf68@hotmail.com

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 181 of 446: wer  (KitchenManager) * Fri, May 22, 1998 (03:15) * 2 lines
oh, yeah, and I updated the GenX Storybook annex page at
http://www.spring.net/~spew/chap1.html

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 182 of 446: Mike Griggs  (mikeg) * Sun, May 24, 1998 (11:05) * 1 lines
I've just opened a new topic in Spirit, which I would like to link to Philosophy -"Why Christianity is not Religious"

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 183 of 446: wer  (KitchenManager) * Mon, May 25, 1998 (16:54) * 1 lines
But, Christianity is WAY to religious...

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 184 of 446: wer  (KitchenManager) * Mon, May 25, 1998 (19:09) * 6 lines
sorry, I seemed to have lost an o while camping...

how are we gonna go about this semantic wrestling match, Mike?
see you there... 



 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 185 of 446: wer  (KitchenManager) * Mon, May 25, 1998 (19:09) * 4 lines
Terry has moved into his new casa, and won't be back on here
full time until his ISDN line gets installed somewhere around
the 4th or 5th of June...(I think, however, he is sneaking
around here tonight)

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 186 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Thu, May 28, 1998 (21:30) * 4 lines
Yup, dialin' in. My isdn line goes in on the 4th. I'll be havin'
another pool party soon. I'm sittin' here with my notebook by poolside,
with the tv cranked up on the music awards. Swimmin' rockin' out and
lurkin' the Spring a bit.

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 187 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Thu, May 28, 1998 (21:39) * 6 lines
News conference. Obits.

Phil Hartman of SNL fame. Shot dead, possibly by his wife who killed
herself.



 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 188 of 446: Mike Griggs  (mikeg) * Tue, Jun  2, 1998 (06:06) * 3 lines
I'm sorry I haven't been around much. It's Early Finals time here at Sussex again, which means that I'm studying like crazy (just as I should be now...) I will be around occassionally, but not much. However, after June 25 I will be back, with the trauma of 14 examinations over!!! 



 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 189 of 446: Riette Walton  (riette) * Tue, Jun  2, 1998 (07:23) * 7 lines
So, that's where you've been all this time - I was beginning to worry; thought
you got run over by a car or something.
I didn't know you were English; I just love England and Scotland - I go there
at least once or twice a year. It is just so beautiful with the rolling landscapes,
quaint little towns, and the people are incredibly nice. I even married one of them!
Anyway, I hope your exams will be going well, and hope you'll be back more
often after that.

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 190 of 446: Autumn Moore  (autumn) * Tue, Jun  2, 1998 (10:14) * 1 lines
Good luck on your finals, Mike!

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 191 of 446: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Tue, Jun  2, 1998 (15:01) * 2 lines
14 examinations?!?!
how many classes are you taking?

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 192 of 446: wer  (KitchenManager) * Sat, Jun  6, 1998 (12:37) * 8 lines
excuse me, I'm butting in for a second,
the GenX Storybook pages can now be found at
http://www.spring.net/~spew/genxstory/chap1.html
http://www.spring.net/~spew/genxstory/chap2.html

come by and read 'em, puh-leeeze!

now, back to our regularly scheduled conversation...

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 193 of 446: wer  (KitchenManager) * Thu, Jun 18, 1998 (15:23) * 4 lines
The index page is up for the GenX Storybook...it's at
http://www.spring.net/~spew/genxstory/indeX.html

it's kinda graphic intesive, let me know what ya'll think...

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 194 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Fri, Jun 26, 1998 (15:42) * 15 lines
Thoroughly Modern Jane

This conference is for fiction using Jane Austen characters in
non-Regency settings. Fiction based on Jane Austen and set in her period
is at The Republic of Pemberley

Your host is Carolyn

http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/public/browse/modjane/all

This has been in the works for a while, and the time was ripe to
announce it.

Credit is due to Amy and Myretta, the wonder workers from the Republic
of Pemberly, a board that was incubated right here on the Spring.

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 195 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Fri, Jun 26, 1998 (15:46) * 8 lines
The announcement is at:

http://www.pemberley.com/pemb/admin/fiction/webbbs/boi.html

and there is a little discussion on the help board at:

http://www.pemberley.com/pemb/admin/help/index.html


 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 196 of 446: wer  (KitchenManager) * Fri, Jun 26, 1998 (15:57) * 3 lines
and if anyone has noticed,
there has been more modjane-ing than firthing lately,
so there's already plenty o' stuff to read...

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 197 of 446: Wolf  (Wolf) * Tue, Jun 30, 1998 (23:26) * 1 lines
ok, i'll ask...what in the heck is modjane?

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 198 of 446: wer  (KitchenManager) * Wed, Jul  1, 1998 (02:52) * 2 lines
Moder Jane Austen...
Jane's characters in modern settings...

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 199 of 446: Riette Walton  (riette) * Wed, Jul  1, 1998 (06:06) * 1 lines
I'll have to start reading her works . . . sounds like fun!

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 200 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Wed, Jul  1, 1998 (23:40) * 4 lines
Saw a preview for a movie tonight with Jane Austen in the title.
It didn't look like it had anything to do with Jane Austen though.



 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 201 of 446: Riette Walton  (riette) * Thu, Jul  2, 1998 (06:41) * 1 lines
How exiting! A movie with Jane Austen in the title which really has nothing to do with her!

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 202 of 446: Autumn Moore  (autumn) * Sun, Jul  5, 1998 (00:09) * 1 lines
It's really a novel idea when you think about it! The possibilities for future films are endless!

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 203 of 446: Riette Walton  (riette) * Sun, Jul  5, 1998 (02:31) * 1 lines
Jane Austin, pet detective.

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 204 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sun, Jul  5, 1998 (06:59) * 36 lines
Riette is now set up with host powers in 'art'. Which means she can
customize it to her heart's desire.

More specifically:

The Role of the Conference Host


Each conference has at least one host. The duties of the host vary from
maintenance-only hosting which might involved clearing out old and unused
topics to high-involvement hosting where the host takes an active role in
encouraging and participating in the discussions.
Hosts can help topics stay on the subject, answer questions, and bring up
new subjects. They help new users and lost users. They generally keep
things rolling along in the conference.


Hostly Powers


Hosts can perform the following acts that regular users cannot.

Open the first topic in the conference.
Retire any topic in the conference.
Kill any topic in the conference.
Change the conference header.
Change the bulletin which is a message displayed (if new) once for
everyone.
Change the welcome message which is displayed when someone joins for the
first time.
Change the conference configuration commands.
Change the ulist which is the list of participants' logins.
Change the login message which is displayed when entering the conference.
Change the Logout 



 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 205 of 446: Riette Walton  (riette) * Sun, Jul  5, 1998 (17:39) * 1 lines
OOOH, all that power . . . am I allow to tie people up too?

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 206 of 446: Riette Walton  (riette) * Sun, Jul  5, 1998 (18:32) * 1 lines
allowed, that is.

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 207 of 446: Mike Griggs  (mikeg) * Sun, Jul  5, 1998 (20:41) * 2 lines
only if you include me 


 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 208 of 446: Autumn Moore  (autumn) * Sun, Jul  5, 1998 (23:30) * 1 lines
"Jane Austen, Pet Detective"--ROTFLMAO!!! Good one, Riette!!

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 209 of 446: Riette Walton  (riette) * Mon, Jul  6, 1998 (04:40) * 3 lines
ha-ha!

Mike, you mean, you've not even noticed that you're already tied to me? Broken arm to broken finger! Which finger? Because if it's your right, then we can make music together! My right hand, your left. You do the cords, I strum. How does that sound?

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 210 of 446: Stacey Vura  (stacey) * Mon, Jul  6, 1998 (14:37) * 1 lines
woo woo! then BOTH of you are still handcuffed to the couch!

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 211 of 446: Riette Walton  (riette) * Mon, Jul  6, 1998 (17:28) * 1 lines
So we're tied to one another AND the couch? This is getting complicated. Now all we need is for you and Wer to join us, and we'll be a Spring Quartet!

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 212 of 446: Mike Griggs  (mikeg) * Tue, Jul  7, 1998 (20:07) * 1 lines
lol :) nice pun, riette :)

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 213 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Tue, Jul  7, 1998 (22:40) * 17 lines
I changed the Spring's base href tag to "http://www.spring.net/
by adding the trailing /

Check out the website and see if it's working in your browser, if you
care to. Is the picture refreshing automatically every 60 seconds like
it is supposed to do?

We're building a new server soon. I just ordered a CD-R to use for
backing up our present system. Should be here tomorrow or the next day.

Spring party here the 18th, hope all the local springeurs can make it by,
even ok for wer to drop in late after work. We should still be jammin'

Everyone, please invite someone you know or don't know to join our
conversation! Let's start growing incrementally!

Back to the All Start game.

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 214 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Tue, Jul  7, 1998 (22:41) * 2 lines
Start sb Star.


 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 215 of 446: Riette Walton  (riette) * Wed, Jul  8, 1998 (01:58) * 3 lines
Holland is out of the World Cup!!!!!!

YAAAAAA-HOOOOOOOOO!!!

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 216 of 446: Mike Griggs  (mikeg) * Wed, Jul  8, 1998 (16:12) * 1 lines
you're happy? i was gutted. they were the only non-cheating team left in. now Brazil, and their team of professional divers, will win. 

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 217 of 446: nick a'hannay  (pmnh) * Wed, Jul  8, 1998 (16:17) * 2 lines
("professional divers"???
what does this mean?)

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 218 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Wed, Jul  8, 1998 (16:46) * 1 lines
All I gotta say is, GO CROATIA!

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 219 of 446: Riette Walton  (riette) * Wed, Jul  8, 1998 (17:15) * 7 lines
Me too.

Mike!!! I'm shocked! You shouted for Holland?! They played like big bullies!
But I don't really care who wins, and it wouldn't have bothered me much if they
HAD won . . . as long as it isn't France (or Germany, I was
going to say, but they're out already, thank heavens!)!! 


 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 220 of 446: Mike Griggs  (mikeg) * Wed, Jul  8, 1998 (20:24) * 2 lines
professional divers refers to the Brazilian penchant for jumping to the floor at the mere hint of an opposition player coming close to them. a technique prevalent on the continent, it is scorned here in England, and rightly so. 


 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 221 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Thu, Jul  9, 1998 (00:17) * 2 lines
"jumping to the floor" ??? Should we take this to the soccer topic in
sports?

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 222 of 446: Riette Walton  (riette) * Thu, Jul  9, 1998 (02:32) * 13 lines
No, NO NO!!
They play with their feet, Holland plays with those big, chunky muscles!
And all the teams do that opera thing anyway to try and get the other team a yellow card. Was it in that one game between Paraguay and WHO? where
the one guy from Paraguay did that magnificent roll practically from one end of
the field to the other after tripping over someone's foot? I was in stitches.
But I adore the Paraguayan goalkeeper. He's SO charismatic, and a great
player too.
I also liked that young English player, Mike Owen who kicked that wonderful
goal against Argentinia. WOW!

Sorry, Terry, I won't say more - I really can't go to sports; I know Nothing about
Nothing there. I just enjoy watching the WC, because then I can cuddle the
little guinea-piggies at the same time.

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 223 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Thu, Jul  9, 1998 (17:01) * 2 lines
So, is Croatia still alive?


 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 224 of 446: Mike Griggs  (mikeg) * Thu, Jul  9, 1998 (17:33) * 1 lines
the team? no, they went out to France. France vs. Brazil in the final. I reckon 1-0 to Brazil.

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 225 of 446: Mike Griggs  (mikeg) * Thu, Jul  9, 1998 (17:36) * 5 lines
The Babes conference header has had a bit of an update. A new logo, and a couple of "additions". Head on over.

You might also fancy dropping into the Alicia Silverstone topic, to check out this wonderful wonderful (wonnnnnnderrfulll....i should stop now) actress. 



 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 226 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Thu, Jul  9, 1998 (17:36) * 1 lines
Who do you think will score the goal?

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 227 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Thu, Jul  9, 1998 (17:36) * 1 lines
Warning: a comment slipped in ahead of yours at 225!

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 228 of 446: Mike Griggs  (mikeg) * Thu, Jul  9, 1998 (17:38) * 4 lines
i've no idea - i didn't watch any of the Brazil matches. and maybe we should this chatter to Sports - it's a bit irrelevant here :)

are the slippage warnings supposed to be posted? 


 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 229 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Thu, Jul  9, 1998 (23:44) * 1 lines
No, not usually, it's just so rare!

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 230 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Mon, Jul 20, 1998 (16:19) * 6 lines
Topic 13 in Spirit:

13 1 Steven Seagal, sacred vessel of Tibetan Buddhism and
reincarnated lama



 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 231 of 446: Riette Walton  (riette) * Tue, Jul 21, 1998 (06:34) * 1 lines
I'll have a look, Terry, but that's a good thing, isn't it? I mean those monks look very holy to me - I respect them.

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 232 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Tue, Jul 21, 1998 (07:28) * 3 lines
Of course it's a good thing. This was brought up in response to your
comments on the vacuity of Jean Claude Van Damme.


 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 233 of 446: Riette Walton  (riette) * Tue, Jul 21, 1998 (08:17) * 1 lines
I'm not changing my mind about van Damme though! If he were to become a Tibetan monk, I would advise all the others (including Seagal) ALWAYS to stand with their backs against the wall. He's such a horny old thing, one never knows what he might get up without women to adore him . . . 

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 234 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Tue, Jul 21, 1998 (13:20) * 2 lines
Did you find the Seagal topic?


 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 235 of 446: Riette Walton  (riette) * Tue, Jul 21, 1998 (14:16) * 1 lines
Oh, here it is! Found it. Ehm, Terry, this response is now in one of the other topics, the reasons are there too, but I can't remember which topic! Anyway, I just more or less said that is was cool about Seagal being a tulku now. Don't you find?

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 236 of 446: Ray Lopez (ratthing) * Wed, Jul 22, 1998 (21:42) * 3 lines

hey folks, i am trying to build traffic to one of my conferences on the
spring, science. come on by and post away!

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 237 of 446: Riette Walton  (riette) * Thu, Jul 23, 1998 (02:21) * 1 lines
But, Ray, I know absolutely nothing about science. Does that matter?

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 238 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Thu, Jul 23, 1998 (10:23) * 1 lines
Tell us some of the things you want to talk about there in science!

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 239 of 446: Ray Lopez (ratthing) * Thu, Jul 23, 1998 (10:25) * 12 lines

right now i am posting news clippings from cnn.com related to science.
these news clippings range from very cool and noncontroversial (stars
and galaxies) to very controversial (mammal cloning).

these are topics that everyone has at least one comment on. riette
(and most folks here for that matter) may not know a lot about
science, but is very smart and bound to add something positive.

anyway, at least come on by and read then news snippets so when i do
a "parti" command it shows more than 3 people who have been to the
conf!!!!!!!!!!

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 240 of 446: wer  (KitchenManager) * Thu, Jul 23, 1998 (11:43) * 2 lines
believe it or not, ratthing, but I lettered in science
three years in high school...

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 241 of 446: Ray Lopez (ratthing) * Thu, Jul 23, 1998 (13:39) * 2 lines

well, then, come on by!

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 242 of 446: Riette Walton  (riette) * Thu, Jul 23, 1998 (14:08) * 1 lines
Will do, Ratthingy.

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 243 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Thu, Jul 23, 1998 (15:02) * 13 lines

Wired for mayhem

By Mark Ward
Economic booms and busts will become more
frequent and more severe if programs called
software agents control electronic commerce.
Agents tend to exaggerate the worst market
swings and create disastrous price wars, say two
research groups in the US.

As more goods and services are bought on the
Internet, observers predict . . . 

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 244 of 446: Riette Walton  (riette) * Thu, Jul 23, 1998 (17:12) * 1 lines
that people will find ways to overcome problems that may occur, if they occur.

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 245 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Thu, Jul 23, 1998 (17:29) * 2 lines
This points to a new topic in the internet conference, where you can read
the rest. Or just take Riette's word for it!

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 246 of 446: Riette Walton  (riette) * Thu, Jul 23, 1998 (20:41) * 1 lines
°smiling sheepishly°

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 247 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Fri, Jul 24, 1998 (06:37) * 1 lines
Did anyone perchance read it?

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 248 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Fri, Jul 24, 1998 (12:27) * 7 lines
Where was tv banned?

What country?

Find out in news topic 10.



 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 249 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Fri, Jul 24, 1998 (15:46) * 2 lines
In the windows conference a new topic, security. And a new product
guranateed to scare the daylights out of you, Back Orifice.

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 250 of 446: wer  (KitchenManager) * Fri, Jul 24, 1998 (15:48) * 1 lines
new topics in art, justice, and genx, as well...

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 251 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Fri, Jul 24, 1998 (15:57) * 3 lines
And porch 30 has a visual thesaurus (long) discussion to go along with
our banter about synonyms.


 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 252 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Fri, Jul 24, 1998 (16:13) * 22 lines
vc conference topic 12, an excerpt:

Amsterdam Public Digital Culture
On the Contradictions Among the Users

by Geert Lovink & Patrice Riemens

By the late nineties, the (in)famous Amsterdam squatters movement, which
had dominated the socio-cultural (and law-and-order) agenda in the
previous decade, had petered out in the city's streets, but its
autonomous yet pragmatic mode of operation had infiltrated in the working
of the more progressive cultural institutions. It was the time that the
cultural centres 'Paradiso' and 'De Balie', which were at the vanguard
of
local cultural politics, embraced the 'technological culture' theme in
their programming. In the beginning, this took the shape of a critical, if
somewhat passive, observation of the technologies surrounding us, and of
their attendant risks, but it quickly evolved in a Do-It-Yourself, from
below approach. Technology was no longer seen as the preserve of science,
big business, or the government. It could also become . . .



 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 253 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Fri, Jul 24, 1998 (17:29) * 2 lines
In travel, a new topic on Paris and France.


 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 254 of 446: wer  (KitchenManager) * Fri, Jul 24, 1998 (17:58) * 1 lines
feel free to talk about their overabundance of wers...

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 255 of 446: wer  (KitchenManager) * Sat, Jul 25, 1998 (01:15) * 11 lines
Yesterday, the Senate moved one step closer to passing legislation which
jeopardizes free speech and access to information on the Internet. Two
measures, which were attached to a spending bill for the Commerce, State,
and Justice departments after a voice vote, are based on two previously
introduced bills: The Communications Decency Act (CDA) II (introduced by
Senator Coats) and the Internet School Filtering Act (introduced by
Senator McCain).

for the rest see
http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/read/internet/12 


 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 256 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sat, Jul 25, 1998 (08:05) * 2 lines
Gambling on the net is also about to be outlawed.


 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 257 of 446: Riette Walton  (riette) * Sat, Jul 25, 1998 (08:36) * 1 lines
One can GAMBLE here? That can't be fun.

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 258 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sun, Jul 26, 1998 (09:08) * 2 lines
It could get expensive, with all they shysters out there.


 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 259 of 446: Riette Walton  (riette) * Sun, Jul 26, 1998 (11:01) * 2 lines
Yeah, well, if one is stupid enough to take the risk, one must take the consequences when they present themselves.
I must confess that Chris and I adore playing the slot machines in England or Namibia when we're there. It's great fun, and we laugh ourselves to bits over each other's efforts to coax money out of the machine.

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 260 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Mon, Jul 27, 1998 (11:54) * 30 lines
The internet conference has a new topic inspired by some of Bruce
Sterling's literary freeware:

Topic 25 of 25: 'hackers (Hacker Crackdown by Bruce Sterling)'
Response 1 of 1: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) Mon, Jul 27, 1998 (10:52) 743
lines

Bruce Sterling
bruces@well.sf.ca.us

Literary Freeware -- Not for Commercial Use

Speech to High Technology Crime Investigation
Association
Lake Tahoe, Nov 1994

Good morning, my name's Bruce Sterling, and I'm a
sometime computer crime journalist and longtime
science fiction writer from Austin Texas. I'm the guy who
wrote HACKER CRACKDOWN, which is the book
you're getting on one of those floppy disks that are being
distributed at this gig like party favors.

People in law enforcement often ask me, Mr
Sterling, if you're a science fiction writer like you say you
are, then why should you care about American computer
police and private security? And also, how come my kids
can never find any copies of your sci-fi novels? . . .

ya gotta go there to get the rest.

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 261 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Mon, Jul 27, 1998 (12:05) * 3 lines
But please go there and comment as a special facor to me if nothing else,
I want to show Bruce we care.


 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 262 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Mon, Jul 27, 1998 (12:05) * 1 lines
facor sb favor

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 263 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Mon, Jul 27, 1998 (12:18) * 19 lines
In travel:

Item 23 entered Mon, Jul 27, 1998 (11:16) by Paul Terry Walhus (terry)
bargain airfares

Bargain airfares. Where to get 'em mostly on the web.


1 new of 1 response total.

Topic 23 of 23: 'bargain airfares'
Response 1 of 1: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) Mon, Jul 27, 1998 (11:17) 6 lines

A good place to start:

www.cheaptickets.com

I heard of someone who got a $600 round trip ticket to Paris instead
of the $3,000 the airlines wanted. 

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 264 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Mon, Jul 27, 1998 (12:19) * 2 lines
Who's beginning to look like a tomato? I won't tell, but you can find
out in the food conference.

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 265 of 446: Riette Walton  (riette) * Mon, Jul 27, 1998 (12:34) * 1 lines
°turning red°

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 266 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Mon, Jul 27, 1998 (14:10) * 2 lines
Sssh, you'll give it away.


 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 267 of 446: Riette Walton  (riette) * Mon, Jul 27, 1998 (15:00) * 1 lines
Give what away? I didn't tell anyone about your hay fetish!

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 268 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Mon, Jul 27, 1998 (15:28) * 2 lines
Whew! Good.


 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 269 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Mon, Jul 27, 1998 (15:41) * 3 lines
It would be hard to convey how wonderful are the descriptions of Paris
provided by Riette, you'll just have to journey to travel to
find out for yourself.

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 270 of 446: Riette Walton  (riette) * Tue, Jul 28, 1998 (01:57) * 1 lines
And oh, if you'd like to find out about Terry's fetishes, you can go look in Music or even, hey, ask him yourself!

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 271 of 446: wer  (KitchenManager) * Tue, Jul 28, 1998 (01:57) * 7 lines
If the Internet is such a wonderful and diverse environment then
how come we're all going to the same places. Yahoo, Netscape, AOL,
Microsoft, Alta Vista, Excite, Geocities, Amazon and a few others
command over fifty percent of Internet traffic.

for more ifs, and/or to supply some answers, go to
http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/read/internet/26

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 272 of 446: Riette Walton  (riette) * Wed, Jul 29, 1998 (06:19) * 1 lines
Because fools never differ?

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 273 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Wed, Jul 29, 1998 (09:51) * 2 lines
Been there already, a good read.


 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 274 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Wed, Jul 29, 1998 (10:16) * 10 lines
New topic in the tv conference:

Ushuaia: The Ultimate Adventure

Hosted by Perri Peltz, "Ushuaia: The Ultimate Adventure" offers a
fascinating look at the real-life adventures of French dare-devil
Nicolas Hulot and his Ushuaia team. The one-hour adventure series,
which takes its name from a small town in Tierra Del Fuego at the
tip of South America, features incredible expeditions, extreme sports
and fierce competitions . . .

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 275 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Fri, Jul 31, 1998 (07:53) * 9 lines
Do you want to see what the Spring looked like in 1995?

check out http://www.spring.net/~dbii/forum/

or for a real pastblast:

http://www.spring.net/~dbii/forum/confs.html



 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 276 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Fri, Jul 31, 1998 (07:54) * 6 lines
Ooops, wrong url, it's


http://www.spring.net/~dbii/forum/confs/confs.html



 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 277 of 446: Riette Walton  (riette) * Wed, Aug  5, 1998 (12:41) * 1 lines
Will go have a look as soon as I wake up.

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 278 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Wed, Aug  5, 1998 (17:44) * 2 lines
Tired from your long trip?


 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 279 of 446: Riette Walton  (riette) * Thu, Aug  6, 1998 (02:12) * 2 lines
I sure was, Terry. We were supposed to get back Tuesday evening, but the flight got cancelled after we boarded the aircraft. Then they tried to put us on another flight to London, and from there to Basle, and then they wanted us to take a TAXI from there to Zürich. At which point I decided it was a good time for a tantrum - because this was like 22:00 at night, my kids were shattered, and we would not have arrived home before about four in the morning. So they gave us free hotel accommodation, two fre
meals, and all that stuff. Which was fun, but we had to be up early again to catch the flight to Zürich, which, in the end, didn't go until 12:20 - so we did get in at 4:00 - in the afternoon, that is. I always swore I wouldn't fly Swissair again after the first time I did. Chris thought I was merely being prejudiced, and so the past two days pretty much proved my point! Mad as a bull, he was! They are the most unprofessional airline since the Kipkana express!

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 280 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Thu, Aug  6, 1998 (12:23) * 2 lines
How far is it from Basle to Zurich?


 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 281 of 446: Riette Walton  (riette) * Thu, Aug  6, 1998 (17:23) * 1 lines
I'm not sure in miles or kilometres, but per car it's between one and a half and two hours. How far is it from Austin to Boston?

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 282 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Thu, Aug  6, 1998 (18:20) * 1 lines
About 1800 miles at least. 

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 283 of 446: Riette Walton  (riette) * Fri, Aug  7, 1998 (01:56) * 1 lines
Damn. Was hoping to be able to combine my Spring excursion next year with a little visit to my sister. Well, if she can get holiday I shall just have to bring her along.

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 284 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Fri, Aug  7, 1998 (10:10) * 1 lines
Great, bring her along!

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 285 of 446: Riette Walton  (riette) * Fri, Aug  7, 1998 (14:08) * 1 lines
Thanks - I'll consider that an invitation! Think I'd be less nervous about coming with her by my side. 

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 286 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sat, Aug  8, 1998 (01:29) * 2 lines
I think the two of you would love Austin. And just think all the hours
and hours of real live face to face conversation we could all have.

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 287 of 446: Riette Walton  (riette) * Sat, Aug  8, 1998 (02:10) * 3 lines
Real live face to face, eye to eye, mouth to mouth, hand to hand, body to body....
°BIG BIG SMILE°
Have I seduced you?

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 288 of 446: wer  (KitchenManager) * Sat, Aug  8, 1998 (15:17) * 1 lines
not yet, but you can keep trying if you'd like...

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 289 of 446: Riette Walton  (riette) * Sat, Aug  8, 1998 (16:13) * 3 lines
Damn! My mum always says she hasn't a clue how I was able to produce two children - she says I'm too stupid to be sexy. Guess she's right. Luckily one doesn't have to be sexy in order to have sex!

Are you still on holiday, or are you back now? 

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 290 of 446: wer  (KitchenManager) * Sun, Aug  9, 1998 (00:35) * 1 lines
I'm back...

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 291 of 446: Riette Walton  (riette) * Sun, Aug  9, 1998 (02:35) * 2 lines
Good.
People had better start coming alive in the Spring, or I shall respond to every single topic in every single conference, and cause a spring scandal.

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 292 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sun, Aug  9, 1998 (08:03) * 25 lines
Scandal, controversy. Awesome! Go for it Riette!

And on the Spring's main page today, a piece put together by my friend
Mangala, an English lady who is very passionate about saving Texas from the
nukes:

The video you are watching is about the proposed nuclear dump in Sierra
Blanca, Texas. It was filmed in early July of this year. The 53rd
anniversary of the nuclear bombing of Hiroshima in Japan has just passed
and, in an attempt to heighten the Public's awareness of the dangerous
nuclear situation in West Texas, many brave souls, at least 200, are
currently marching from El Paso to Sierra Blanca. Unless the People
speak out NOW, a license will be granted by the T.N.R.C.C. for a nuclear waste
facility to be built in this beautiful pristine area of Texas which is 16
miles from the Mexican border where the Rio Grande runs and over an
earthquake fault line. This facility will serve as a dump for other
states including Maine and Vermont. Trucks will bring the waste right across the
U.S. If you have the possibility to join the marchers then please do
so.

They have been on Highway 20 past Fort Hancock and now are joining I10 to
march the rest of the way to Sierra Blanca. They are supposed to arrive
in Sierra Blanca around 1.30pm tomorrow, August 9th.

Topic about this in environment.

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 293 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sun, Aug  9, 1998 (08:42) * 2 lines
Does anyone want to put up a gallery page of pix of springeurs that I can
point to from the main page?

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 294 of 446: wer  (KitchenManager) * Sun, Aug  9, 1998 (10:30) * 1 lines
I'll put it on the list...

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 295 of 446: Riette Walton  (riette) * Sun, Aug  9, 1998 (14:00) * 1 lines
Hi, Wer!! 

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 296 of 446: Ray Lopez (ratthing) * Sun, Aug  9, 1998 (14:35) * 3 lines

we *really* need to start a weird-like conf here on the spring. there
are sooooo many topics there just begging for riette!

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 297 of 446: Wolf  (wolf) * Sun, Aug  9, 1998 (15:39) * 1 lines
new topics in poetry too! (and yeah, this place has been dead, what's up?)

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 298 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sun, Aug  9, 1998 (23:58) * 3 lines
wer now has conference creation capabilities. Go William!



 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 299 of 446: wer  (KitchenManager) * Mon, Aug 10, 1998 (00:23) * 3 lines
I wondered when you were going to let that out of the bag...
actually I was holding off on starting any new confs until
you had the new server up and running...

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 300 of 446: Riette Walton  (riette) * Mon, Aug 10, 1998 (06:02) * 3 lines
Oh, magnificent!!! What's your conference going to be called? And, Wer, we're all with you!

Ray, you think me weird??? You flatterer!!

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 301 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Mon, Aug 10, 1998 (07:46) * 1 lines
Check out Mangala's video!

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 302 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Mon, Aug 10, 1998 (07:52) * 5 lines
It's ok because we'll be transferring all this content anyway. And I'm
not phasing in the new server for a while, because these one chugs along
fairly reliably. And the new server will be a support machine until it
proves it's metal. And also there's the issue that it's a difference
flavor unix (Free BSD instad of BSDI).

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 303 of 446: wer  (wer) * Thu, Aug 13, 1998 (01:50) * 15 lines
ok, ratthing and every one else,
Riette and I have already gotten
http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/browse/screwed
and wouldn't you know it,
she came first...









and introduced herself!

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 304 of 446: wer  (wer) * Thu, Aug 13, 1998 (01:53) * 5 lines
yeah, I know, the url should be

http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/browse/screwed/all
but it worked, didn't it?
(and read better, as well)

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 305 of 446: Riette Walton  (riette) * Thu, Aug 13, 1998 (07:11) * 1 lines
Nothing like a good screw! ha-ha!

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 306 of 446: Wolf  (wolf) * Fri, Aug 14, 1998 (22:26) * 1 lines
is this, like, a whole new conference?

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 307 of 446: Ray Lopez (ratthing) * Fri, Aug 14, 1998 (22:45) * 2 lines

yes! please visit screwed!

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 308 of 446: Wolf  (wolf) * Fri, Aug 14, 1998 (22:50) * 1 lines
ok!!!

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 309 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sun, Aug 16, 1998 (20:49) * 15 lines
I whupped up a coupla new topics, mostly related to Austin goings on but
of general interest also.

The first is in poetry. It's about teh 98 national Poetry Slam which is
going to kick off in a few days. This is the Superbowl of poetry,
folks. And I'll be there.

The other is a website and discussion about Body Choir, a group that I
have fun with and which I have talked about briefly.

http://www.spring.net/bodychoir

And the Pledge Drive is still going strong with two new contributions,
Read the topic in this conference.


 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 310 of 446: Autumn Moore  (autumn) * Sun, Aug 16, 1998 (22:26) * 1 lines
Terry, when you click on it, it says "File Not Found."

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 311 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sun, Aug 16, 1998 (23:21) * 2 lines
It's fixed now.


 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 312 of 446: Autumn Moore  (autumn) * Mon, Aug 17, 1998 (00:12) * 1 lines
Oh, very interesting! PS: check your email.

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 313 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Thu, Aug 20, 1998 (07:10) * 9 lines
Varoom! Keep them names coming, in, of all places, babes?

Any Mike Griggs sightings?

And catch either the Internet or the Austin conference for a listing of
interesting websites about race, class and the Internet from Arthur McGee.

Art goddess Riette continues on her roll in the art conference. It's a
great education! 

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 314 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Thu, Aug 20, 1998 (07:37) * 7 lines
Thought you had problems?

the entire cap the size of
the USA and part of Canada 20,000 feet thick will slide into the ocean
causing huge waves...

In the news conference.

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 315 of 446: Riette Walton  (riette) * Fri, Aug 21, 1998 (02:22) * 1 lines
!!!!!!!!!!!! WHEN?!?!?!

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 316 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Fri, Aug 21, 1998 (10:34) * 4 lines
Don't know. Sounds kind of hokey, should have put it in the news of the
weird topic (do we have one?) . . . along with the alien abductions.
You'll have to visit news and check the web links, I spose.


 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 317 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Fri, Aug 21, 1998 (10:49) * 7 lines
SpringSearch!

http://www.spring.net/search

New!



 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 318 of 446: wer  (KitchenManager) * Fri, Aug 21, 1998 (11:33) * 5 lines
too cool!

check out this feature, as well...

http://www.spring.net/~spew/ss/

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 319 of 446: Nan  (Nan11) * Fri, Aug 21, 1998 (12:03) * 1 lines
Looks good Terry. Now we know why you're so busy ;-)

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 320 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Fri, Aug 21, 1998 (12:36) * 2 lines
It only took about 10 minutes to set up. Ooops, didn't call you last
night. Give me a buzz later.

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 321 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Fri, Aug 21, 1998 (12:39) * 2 lines
This topic now linked to drool.


 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 322 of 446: Nan  (Nan11) * Fri, Aug 21, 1998 (12:46) * 0 lines 
 

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 323 of 446: Nan  (Nan11) * Fri, Aug 21, 1998 (12:47) * 0 lines 
 

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 324 of 446: Nan  (Nan11) * Fri, Aug 21, 1998 (12:50) * 3 lines
This topic now linked to drool

Yes, I noticed. Did you upgrade the software or something? I've been able yo post without getting a Yapp error the last couple of days.

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 325 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Fri, Aug 21, 1998 (12:50) * 27 lines
No updates! Unless Kaylenes been working behind the scenes. wer is
taking an active role in overall system management and design, which is
great.

New topic internet (topic 28) which lists communication clients, these
are ways we can meet using audio, video and text chat. Here are some of
the best communications clients:

Here are, in general, the best apps for communicating over the net (not just
videoconferencing in some cases) in order of effectiveness and
overall
quality:


Iphone 5.01 ftp://ftp.vocaltec.com/pub/iphone/iphone50.exe
WebPhone ftp://ftp.netspeak.com/pub/wpsetup.exe
VDOPhone ftp://ftp.vdo.net/vdptrial.exe
NetMeeting http://mssjus3.www.conxion.com/msdownload/netmeeting/Nm21.exe
OnLive! Traveler http://www.onlive.com/cgi-bin/travreg.cgi
PowWow32 ftp://ftp.powwow.com/powwow36.exe
PhoneFerret ftp://ferret.aitcom.net/pub/ferret/PFT111.exe
Virtual Places http://download.vplaces.com/clients/VP32r21.exe
Active Worlds http://aw.mpl.net/downloads/awb.exe
Speak Freely http://www.fourmilab.ch/speakfree/windows/speakfb.zip
WinTalk ftp://ftp.elf.com/pub/wintalk/wtalk127.zip
VoxPhone ftp://papa.indstate.edu/winsock-l/Windows95/tx32v20.exe


 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 326 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Fri, Aug 21, 1998 (12:51) * 1 lines
Slippage!

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 327 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Mon, Aug 24, 1998 (17:47) * 2 lines
Let's talk to a prisoner. See justice topic 4.


 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 328 of 446: Riette Walton  (riette) * Tue, Aug 25, 1998 (02:09) * 1 lines
You mean a married man?

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 329 of 446: wer  (KitchenManager) * Tue, Aug 25, 1998 (23:40) * 1 lines
nope, that's what he'd a meant if I had said it...

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 330 of 446: Riette Walton  (riette) * Wed, Aug 26, 1998 (02:29) * 2 lines
You feel like marriage is an imprisonment?
I don't really, except when Chris doesn't want to go on the merry-go-round with me. Then I wish I hadn't been married, 'cos then I would not have WANTED him to come along in the first place, and I wouldn't have had to nag him about it. 

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 331 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Wed, Aug 26, 1998 (18:17) * 14 lines
Topic 7 of 13: 'NATO and European politics'
Response 11 of 11: naive (ergopublic) Wed, Aug 26, 1998 (15:56) 18
lines

Strange (or funny) to read this discussion. At "beeing wired - beeing
human" I was told to have a look at spring.
The NATO and European politics page is really astonishing for a
citizen that is not member of the U.S. nor the NATO nor even the U.N.
...

... read the rest in the politics conference. Wow, we can mentioned at
being wired, being human!

New blood. And Swiss too.

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 332 of 446: Riette Walton  (riette) * Thu, Aug 27, 1998 (02:15) * 1 lines 
 


 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 333 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Fri, Aug 28, 1998 (09:49) * 8 lines
Read the story of the "Tech Ranch" radio program - about Austin
technology - in the austin conference (topic 30) and it's linked to the
'radio' conference.

Riette's art conference is awesome, it's forcing us telnetties onto the
web to see it!



 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 334 of 446: Riette Walton  (riette) * Fri, Aug 28, 1998 (11:51) * 2 lines
All this flattery is going to make me very vain soon.....
MORE PLEASE!

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 335 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Fri, Aug 28, 1998 (12:59) * 6 lines
She's absolutely stupendous!

For you host sysop types, you can click on help on the Spring's main page
and now get to a "sysops corner" which tells you how to use telnet to create
conferences and do sysop type things.


 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 336 of 446: Riette Walton  (riette) * Fri, Aug 28, 1998 (14:45) * 1 lines
Keep that technology stuff away from me! They and me - we don't exactly get along.

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 337 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Fri, Aug 28, 1998 (22:29) * 7 lines
Geoff posted a new topic, number 49, in the web conference about a new
postal service on the internet. I was running out the door and could
only skim it real fast. Could someone else please take a look and post a
better synopsis here? And welcome geoff, 'cause he's finally come out of
the woodwork after hanging around here for at least a year. Maybe we can
keep him out in the open now!


 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 338 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sat, Aug 29, 1998 (00:09) * 5 lines
Gregory Kallenberg's online version of the XL article:

http://austin360.com/tech/browser/browser.htm



 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 339 of 446: Ray Lopez (ratthing) * Sat, Aug 29, 1998 (00:39) * 5 lines

thanks for posting the URL, terry.

what a great blurb for the Spring! so are we *all* "edgy and cool" or
just you, terry?

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 340 of 446: Riette Walton  (riette) * Sat, Aug 29, 1998 (02:05) * 1 lines
Remember, Ray,THE WALHUS IS OUR MASTER!

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 341 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sat, Aug 29, 1998 (18:02) * 2 lines
We're all so hip, groovy, cool and edgy that it's awesome.


 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 342 of 446: Wolf  (wolf) * Sat, Aug 29, 1998 (20:31) * 1 lines
like, totally dude!

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 343 of 446: Riette Walton  (riette) * Sun, Aug 30, 1998 (03:01) * 1 lines
No-one should touch us - we're so hot, we'll burn them to ashes!

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 344 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sun, Aug 30, 1998 (16:27) * 4 lines
This may be tasteless and it may make you gag. That warning out of the
way, it's topic 30 in babes. Jailbabes. Something to stir Mike up on his
return.


 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 345 of 446: Riette Walton  (riette) * Mon, Aug 31, 1998 (02:28) * 1 lines
I think he'll laugh himself into a coma!

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 346 of 446: Judy Torrieri (isis) * Wed, Sep  2, 1998 (21:46) * 1 lines
hi i am a newbie whats hot.....

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 347 of 446: Wolf  (wolf) * Wed, Sep  2, 1998 (22:05) * 1 lines
this is what's hot--the spring! didn't you hear? we're edgy and cooooooool, woohoo!! welcome judy! look around, feel free to jump in on any topic...

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 348 of 446: Judy Torrieri  (isis) * Wed, Sep  2, 1998 (22:08) * 2 lines
thank you and well i am,,but right now i am just looking around and thanks again... 


 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 349 of 446: Ray Lopez (ratthing) * Wed, Sep  2, 1998 (22:41) * 2 lines

welcome to the spring isis! what are your interests?

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 350 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Wed, Sep  2, 1998 (22:48) * 9 lines
What's hot! The people here. The topics. Food. Art. Restaurants.
Science. Babes. Drool. Movies. TV.

And we like to hang out on our little 'Porch' and listen to the frogs
croak down by the spring, and swap comments about what's hot.

And you're hot, cause you're new!



 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 351 of 446: wer  (KitchenManager) * Wed, Sep  2, 1998 (23:40) * 8 lines
While there are tens of thousands of websites to visit, it is only the very
seasoned netizen who will actually explore the wider reaches of the
Internet. We know that most people tend to visit the same sites
repeatedly. The average person has a list of ten websites they visit on a
weekly basis and outside of that there is not much divergence.

check http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/browse/vc/all
for the rest of the article...look around, you'll find it...

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 352 of 446: Autumn Moore  (autumn) * Fri, Sep  4, 1998 (00:11) * 1 lines
Books, Isis. Books are HOT. Come tell us what you're reading, even if it's trash.

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 353 of 446: Riette Walton  (riette) * Fri, Sep  4, 1998 (04:44) * 3 lines
Or: get SCREWED!!!

That was not an insult!

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 354 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus  (terry) * Fri, Sep  4, 1998 (20:17) * 16 lines
Really, wolf has read a book in nearly every state (you can take that two ways).

And I posed the question to her whether or not she could remember which states she read which books. It's my way of steering a discussion back on topic.

Books. Hot. Read.

I love the creative direction Ree and wer a giving this place. Here guys, have a high 5!

www.colinfirth.com and www.austen.com are coming, if I can get the new machine more organized with Peters help. Then the respective design teams can take over. I love drool and austen. I wish we could revive austen in a cway complemenatary to what Amy and Myretta are doing

Sports. Baseball, I know you say ugh.

But nonetheless I have made some comments on the current home run race between McGwire and Sosa in the sports topic 10 on the Cardinals if you care to join me.

More later.... 


 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 355 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus  (terry) * Fri, Sep  4, 1998 (20:18) * 1 lines
The get screwed comment was in reference to the Judy topic in screwed. Getting screwed is a peak experience around here.

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 356 of 446: Riette Walton  (riette) * Sat, Sep  5, 1998 (02:44) * 1 lines
ABSOLUTELY

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 357 of 446: Wolf  (wolf) * Sat, Sep  5, 1998 (10:38) * 2 lines
wait! terry, you wanted to know in which states i've read a book? not which
states i've been in? well, now, this will have a completely different answer.

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 358 of 446: Riette Walton  (riette) * Sun, Sep  6, 1998 (03:19) * 1 lines
Waiting to hear it....

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 359 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sun, Sep  6, 1998 (03:22) * 2 lines
Yeah, waiting for what states in what states.


 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 360 of 446: Wolf  (wolf) * Tue, Sep  8, 1998 (19:29) * 1 lines
crazy in all of them and i haven't a clue what i've read where!

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 361 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Wed, Sep  9, 1998 (00:27) * 66 lines
Good things and new people going on in the Internet conference. And, yes,
Ray, I'd love it if you'd work on those menu scripts.


Topic 1 of 29: 'allow me to introduce myself'
Response 38 of 40: Ray Lopez (ratthing) Mon, Sep 7, 1998 (22:57) 3 lines


terry, i did not know you needed someone to work on the menus. i'd
love to
do that!

Topic 1 of 29: 'allow me to introduce myself'
Response 39 of 40: Arthur R McGee (amcgee) Mon, Sep 7, 1998 (23:19) 3
lines

Yeah, thanks. I understand UNIX just fine, I just wasn't aware of how
my shell
needed to be setup for the conferencing software to work. On most
systems,
the conferencing software has it's own independent settings. Thanks
again.

Topic 1 of 29: 'allow me to introduce myself'
Response 40 of 40: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) Tue, Sep 8, 1998 (08:20) 5
lines

Thanks Art, it's an issue that our conferening software should
address.
But our web population is much, much bigger than our telnet group, so
naturally, the web is where most of our development has been.



[1/29] Respond, forget, or pass?

Item 10 entered Sun, Sep 22, 1996 (16:09) by Paul Terry Walhus (terry)
ISPs - who is the best Internet Service Provider?

1 new of 3 responses total.

Topic 10 of 29: 'ISPs - who is the best Internet Service Provider?'
Response 2 of 3: Ito (ITO) Tue, Sep 8, 1998 (21:03) 4 lines

I use shaw wave through the cable company in Calgary and I love it!,
too fast, no phone line tied up and 24-hour connection. I pay
$40Canadian a month; it ain't so bad but for those that need it it's
worth it, there is no web space for a site but there is for ftp.
Also, you are allowed to have up to 5 email accounts, which I guess
some people would benefit from. The program I am into is the Home
network.
We'll be moving to Austin pretty soon, does anyone know whether there
is cable internet service through the local cable company?, who is
the cable company down there? if the service exists does anyone know
what it costs?
Thanks and happy surfing!
Ito

Topic 10 of 29: 'ISPs - who is the best Internet Service Provider?'
Response 3 of 3: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) Tue, Sep 8, 1998 (23:23) 4
lines

Welcome Ito, yes, we either have it or we're getting it very soon.
Very
glad you're joining us.


 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 362 of 446: wer  (KitchenManager) * Wed, Sep  9, 1998 (00:37) * 5 lines
ooh, and don't forget to try the last 50 postings option on
http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/main
either...will be coming to a conference near you soon, also...

(and maybe I can finally get the frames version and the goto button working, too)

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 363 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Wed, Sep  9, 1998 (00:44) * 2 lines
I love that 50 last postings, everyone give wer a hug, ok?


 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 364 of 446: wer  (KitchenManager) * Wed, Sep  9, 1998 (00:46) * 1 lines
didya see the cartoon? it changes everyday...

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 365 of 446: wer  (KitchenManager) * Wed, Sep  9, 1998 (00:47) * 1 lines
Terry, e-mail me the mailing address for your Austin casa, okay?

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 366 of 446: Riette Walton  (riette) * Wed, Sep  9, 1998 (02:46) * 1 lines
Goodness, do you guys actually have enough brain space to store all these techno terms in????

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 367 of 446: Wolf  (wolf) * Wed, Sep  9, 1998 (09:14) * 2 lines
ok, how come i only got the cartoon once? and the 50 option is cool too, so here
ya go, wer *squeeze*

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 368 of 446: wer  (KitchenManager) * Wed, Sep  9, 1998 (10:37) * 1 lines
what do you mean, once?

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 369 of 446: Wolf  (wolf) * Wed, Sep  9, 1998 (10:48) * 3 lines
i mean one time, not twice, not more than one time *hehe*...a few days ago, i
logged in, got my personalized deal with a cartoon on the right side of the
screen. ever since then, no cartoon has shown up when i log in. got it?

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 370 of 446: wer  (KitchenManager) * Wed, Sep  9, 1998 (12:11) * 2 lines
got it...couldn't make it fit right with differenct hotlist lengths,
so it now appears at the bottom of the last 50 postings page...

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 371 of 446: Wolf  (wolf) * Wed, Sep  9, 1998 (13:07) * 1 lines
okay! t'anks, wer *grin*

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 372 of 446: Wolf  (wolf) * Wed, Sep  9, 1998 (13:21) * 3 lines
oh, wer, i gots an idear, you know that cartoon you put at the bottom of 50 responses?
well, what if we post a cartoon and have folks submit their own caption to 'em?
huh, whatcha think, huh?

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 373 of 446: wer  (KitchenManager) * Wed, Sep  9, 1998 (14:34) * 6 lines
I don't care...I can't draw, however...

speaking of, everyone go to
http://www.spring.net/~spew/b/
and look at the buttons I'm working on,
then come back and tell me what you think...

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 374 of 446: Wolf  (wolf) * Wed, Sep  9, 1998 (16:13) * 1 lines
don't have to be able to draw, just post a cartoon!

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 375 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Wed, Sep  9, 1998 (17:22) * 3 lines
That could be a topic too. Post a picture and then the responses that
follow are suggested captions.


 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 376 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus  (terry) * Thu, Sep 10, 1998 (01:18) * 3 lines
wer's top 50! Check it out:

http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/fifty

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 377 of 446: Riette Walton  (riette) * Thu, Sep 10, 1998 (06:38) * 3 lines
HEY HO HO HEY, is there some kind of favourism going on here, or what?? I've got no cartoon!!!

°wailing bitterly°

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 378 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Thu, Sep 10, 1998 (19:55) * 10 lines
Happy Birthday Colin Firth!

http://www.colinfirth.com

or

http://www.firth.com

hosted by the Spring and produced by the awesome babes of drool.


 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 379 of 446: Autumn Moore  (autumn) * Thu, Sep 10, 1998 (21:37) * 1 lines
Wow! Cool and edgy psychedelic new buttons.

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 380 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sun, Sep 13, 1998 (21:35) * 8 lines
Kristen has her own Spring page and has said she wants to start taking
part in our discussions. It might help if folks here would send her some
encouragement in the form of email and comments in her discussion area in
'babes'!

http://www.spring.net/kristen

... which has a link to babes. 

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 381 of 446: wer  (KitchenManager) * Sun, Sep 13, 1998 (23:47) * 1 lines
ooooo...she doesn't even have a tilde...

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 382 of 446: Riette Walton  (riette) * Mon, Sep 14, 1998 (14:19) * 1 lines
Would it be rude of me to say that I hope flattery is not going to become the basis or condition for our friendship here? 

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 383 of 446: Ray Lopez (ratthing) * Mon, Sep 14, 1998 (15:13) * 5 lines

i hope not! while the core group of us here enjoys a very jovial
relationship, we shouild be careful not to let that supress
creativity of thought and exposure to new ideas and people.


 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 384 of 446: Ray Lopez (ratthing) * Mon, Sep 14, 1998 (15:15) * 4 lines

...with that said, i feel that it is imperative that we maintain
a level of civility here. if this place turns into the WELL
i am leaving.

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 385 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus  (terry) * Mon, Sep 14, 1998 (15:24) * 1 lines
I think we all really like each other and I don't see any signs of that!

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 386 of 446: Riette Walton  (riette) * Tue, Sep 15, 1998 (01:54) * 1 lines
GOOD. Just checking.

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 387 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Tue, Sep 15, 1998 (08:12) * 19 lines
We're very full on disk space.

We have another machine (access) with 8 gb and it's nearly empty.

Use it to store graphics files, etc and to start new websites and other
projects.

If there's anything in your directory you don't need, nuke it or move it
to the new machine.

We'll crash very soon if this keeps up. We're 95% full on this machine
and bursting at the seams. I'm going in and moving everything I can to
access that is in my personal directory.

And I'm running a diskhog report which I'll publish later ... it takes a
long time to run. It shows all directories on the system in descending
order of size.



 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 388 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Tue, Sep 15, 1998 (08:15) * 7 lines
Ok: !df
Filesystem 512-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on
/dev/sd0a 19454 17614 866 95% /
/dev/sd0h 2956188 2620738 187640 93% /usr

We've got to cut out file storage on this machine and use our other
machine(s) for storing files, expecially large ones. 

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 389 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Tue, Sep 15, 1998 (08:35) * 111 lines
The gory details:

bash$ cat hog
du / | sort -rn > hogwww.txt

bash$ su
Password:
bash# du / | sort -rn > hogwww.txt
du: /usr/var/www/docs/.chai.html.tmp: No such file or directory
bash# head -100 hogwww.txt
2637922 /
2620310 /usr
994658 /usr/home
929378 /usr/var
831078 /usr/var/www
604854 /usr/var/www/logs
417362 /usr/var/www/logs/spring.net
304514 /usr/bbs
167836 /usr/local
142238 /usr/home/work
115282 /usr/var/www/logs/childrenstory.com
113072 /usr/home/jeff
112028 /usr/bbs/part
102986 /usr/bbs/confs
99812 /usr/var/www/webdocs
86578 /usr/home/terry
82944 /usr/contrib
79210 /usr/var/www/docs
67458 /usr/var/www/webdocs/childrenstory.com
61896 /usr/var/log
56710 /usr/home/dbii
51682 /usr/local/src
46708 /usr/home/terry/Mail
46636 /usr/var/www/rafiles
46044 /usr/home/wmmeyers
45988 /usr/home/wmmeyers/public_html
45330 /usr/var/www/logs/spring.com
45162 /usr/home/jeff/perl
44746 /usr/bbs/www
44378 /usr/home/dbii/public_html
44278 /usr/home/anneh
44170 /usr/home/dbii/public_html/forum
44148 /usr/home/anneh/public_html
42196 /usr/local/src/pine4.02
41956 /usr/local/realaudio
40440 /usr/home/nbba
39502 /usr/contrib/bin
39398 /usr/home/wmmeyers/public_html/album
39238 /usr/bbs/www/home
38054 /usr/home/work/terry
37326 /usr/home/msworks
37296 /usr/home/msworks/MSWORKS
37030 /usr/share
36300 /usr/home/jeff/olddns
33398 /usr/var/mail
33108 /usr/home/anneh/public_html/derby
30402 /usr/home/nbba/incoming
30302 /usr/home/kreblon
29924 /usr/home/kreblon/public_html
29240 /usr/home/dbii/public_html/forum/confs
28588 /usr/src
28586 /usr/src/sys
27742 /usr/var/www/webdocs/childrenstory.com/tales
26680 /usr/home/jeff/perl/perl5.004_04
26062 /usr/local/frontpage
26034 /usr/local/frontpage/version3.0
24748 /usr/home/paul
23924 /usr/home/paul/Mail
23580 /usr/home/terry/public_html
22892 /usr/var/www/webdocs/adultstory.com
22226 /usr/var/log/oldlog
21898 /usr/bbs/confs/drool
21362 /usr/var/www/logs/adultstory.com
21338 /usr/local/realaudio/pnserver.old
21054 /usr/contrib/lib
20976 /usr/home/ham
20680 /usr/home/bernie
19638 /usr/home/mrobens
19070 /usr/src/sys/i386
18914 /usr/bbs/confs/modjane
18834 /usr/local/src/pine4.02/bin
18514 /usr/var/www/docs/wle
18196 /usr/var/www/webdocs/childrenstory.com/christmas
18178 /usr/home/mrobens/public_html
17848 /usr/var/www/webdocs/childrenstory.com/tales/snow
17602 /usr/var/www/webdocs/childrenstory.com/tales/snow/images
17552 /usr/home/jeff/sendmail
17540 /usr/home/work/Mail
17420 /usr/var/www/docs/bayless
17346 /usr/var/www/docs/bayless/images
16998 /usr/bind
16996 /usr/bind/named
16434 /usr/home/bernie/public_html
16034 /usr/bbs/confs/austenarchive
15646 /usr/home/mrobens/public_html/Ann
15496 /usr/src/sys/i386/OBJ
14762 /usr/local/pnserver
14686 /usr/var/www/webdocs/childrenstory.com/christmas/images
14512 /usr/home/nan
14340 /usr/home/snap
14242 /usr/bin
14204 /usr/home/snap/public_html
14168 /usr/lib
14150 /usr/home/ham/Mail
13998 /usr/contrib/man
13922 /usr/share/man
13878 /usr/home/jeff/dns
13460 /usr/home/work/AWORKB
13452 /usr/home/alweeda
13188 /usr/bind/named/bin
bash# 

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 390 of 446: Myretta Robens  (mrobens) * Tue, Sep 15, 1998 (09:06) * 3 lines
Terry,

I nuked the topics on modjane, but don't have permissions to delete the conference. It will give you some more room, but the conference should be deleted.

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 391 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus  (terry) * Tue, Sep 15, 1998 (12:27) * 3 lines
That's pretty much a drop in the bucket, but thanks. I'll delete the conference and remove it from the main page.

We just need better log file management which means archiving the big logs over to access.spring.net. And I have about 45 mbs. of personal files that I'm copying and nuking.

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 392 of 446: Riette Walton  (riette) * Tue, Sep 15, 1998 (13:59) * 1 lines
Terry, does the Art conference have something to do with this problem? Could you move it wherever it has to go in order to solve another drop in the bucket? I haven't a clue about these things - I thought one could just post and post, and it never gets full, 'cos it's internet files. 

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 393 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Wed, Sep 16, 1998 (08:41) * 12 lines
We're in pretty good shape now, I just freed up 45mb last night and when I
clean up the log files that will free up a lot more. We can get you an
account on access.spring.net and you can have an area there for storage of
art files.

But, as you can see, we're in much better shape:

bash$ df
Filesystem 512-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on
/dev/sd0a 19454 17614 866 95% /
/dev/sd0h 2956188 2450354 358024 87% /usr
bash$ 

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 394 of 446: Ray Lopez (ratthing) * Wed, Sep 16, 1998 (09:59) * 6 lines


terry, there are several tar files in the /usr/bbs directory, and
probably elsewhere. you could get a little more space out of the
system by moving or compressing those files too.


 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 395 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus  (terry) * Wed, Sep 16, 1998 (11:36) * 14 lines
Cool, do you have any recommendations on log file handling and archiving (to access.spring.net)?

Something like:

tar cf - ./games | rsh access.spring.net cd /tmp \; tar xvBpf -

(Solaris example of moving directories between machines -- we need something a little different, copying to another machine without compressing so we can grep and analyze still and restarting the log file on the source machine).

Something you'd be willing to take on?

I think there should be a top 50 button on every page you go to, and the cartoon is great, but I wish it were on another page than top 50 (imho), because I use it constantly now as a bookmark and I when I go to it I immediately hit page down because it is in ascending order. (descending would be better) and then I have to hit the page up key.

Top 50 is an insanely great way to navigate the Spring! 


 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 396 of 446: Wolf  (wolf) * Wed, Sep 16, 1998 (11:56) * 3 lines
there are several topics in poetry that aren't used at all, later, i'll give a warning
that those topics will be retired then you can do whatever you need to clear up
space.

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 397 of 446: wer  (KitchenManager) * Wed, Sep 16, 1998 (12:49) * 4 lines
I can do the fifty to print in reverse, no problem...
I just stuck the cartoon thingy there cause it fit...
have written the conference fifty page, also, just haven't installed it...
hopefully, I'll have them fixed and up by Sunday...

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 398 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus  (terry) * Wed, Sep 16, 1998 (18:34) * 2 lines
Very cool. Where did you post the dinner thing relating to Kristen. I told her about it but she couldn't find it just now. 


 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 399 of 446: wer  (KitchenManager) * Wed, Sep 16, 1998 (22:18) * 1 lines
her topic in Babes...

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 400 of 446: Birthday Girl!!!  (terry) * Wed, Sep 23, 1998 (08:11) * 5 lines
Right, speaking of Kristen, she's our Spring birthday girl today.

Bend over Kristen, we're going to give you a spanking!

(twap) (twap) 26 times . . .

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 401 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus  (terry) * Wed, Sep 23, 1998 (13:33) * 2 lines
wer, please check out projects.
Also, anyone interested in a little paying gig on our cs site, check out projects childrenstory topic (requires some understanding of webtv).

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 402 of 446: wer  (KitchenManager) * Wed, Sep 23, 1998 (20:55) * 1 lines
will do...

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 403 of 446: wer  (KitchenManager) * Tue, Sep 29, 1998 (08:39) * 1 lines
Welcome heidi and karen as hostesses of Drool!

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 404 of 446: Riette Walton  (riette) * Tue, Sep 29, 1998 (10:39) * 3 lines
WELCOME!!!

I thought Nan was hostess all along. Is she coming to inner, or what? What is going on in there??

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 405 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus  (terry) * Tue, Sep 29, 1998 (11:14) * 1 lines
Evelyn Boake was the previous droolhostess. And she is passing the baton on to Heidi and Karen. I think I got Heidi spelled right that time!

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 406 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Tue, Sep 29, 1998 (20:07) * 5 lines
Any new topic ideas anyone? Does anyone have a burning passion that would
be fun to talk about?

Ideas?


 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 407 of 446: Mike Griggs (mikeg) * Tue, Sep 29, 1998 (21:23) * 1 lines
Java! It's my new thing to learn, and I'm rather hoping it will get me a very good job after graduation!

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 408 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Fri, Oct  2, 1998 (00:15) * 1 lines
Sure, what conference should we put it in? computer? web? 

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 409 of 446: Ray Lopez (ratthing) * Fri, Oct  2, 1998 (10:47) * 4 lines

since it's really just another programming language, how about
putting it in computer and linking it to web?


 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 410 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sat, Oct  3, 1998 (03:17) * 2 lines
Sure, you want to start it, Ray? We don't have a java topic now? I'll
talk to you about Java.

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 411 of 446: Ray Lopez (ratthing) * Sat, Oct  3, 1998 (12:44) * 3 lines

sure!


 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 412 of 446: Java Joe  (terry) * Tue, Oct  6, 1998 (10:03) * 35 lines
"It's a software initiative that could

decide who owns corporate desktops for

the next 10 years. More vaporware from

Microsoft Corp.? Hardly. This time, it's

IBM Corp. taking the offensive.

Indeed, IBM (NYSE:IBM) has drawn up a

strategic blueprint to transform its

enterprise business into an

electronic-commerce powerhouse that

spans millions of corporate desktops. In

addition to betting the bank on Java,

the blueprint calls for IBM to pump up

Netscape's desktop business, head off

Microsoft's Web browser and aggressively

push OS/2 Warp customers onto other

platforms.

... read more and comment in the computer conference
topic on java. ratthang, would you mind linking this to the
web conference, cause I keep going there to look for this.

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 413 of 446: Ray Lopez (ratthing) * Tue, Oct  6, 1998 (10:12) * 4 lines

can i do that? i thought only hosts of confs could do things like
that and AFAIK i dont host this conf or the web conf!


 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 414 of 446: wer  (KitchenManager) * Tue, Oct  6, 1998 (10:20) * 1 lines
yeah, yeah, yeah...I'll do it...

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 415 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Tue, Oct  6, 1998 (22:06) * 2 lines
We can add you if you want, Ray.


 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 416 of 446: Wolf  (wolf) * Tue, Oct  6, 1998 (22:11) * 10 lines
wer: hahaha!!!!

ray and terry: see, it worked *heehee*

i see java stuff everywhere but don't understand what it means. i know it's another
code and all that but what can it do?

and please explain appelets to me-there is a site on the web with a picture of a
wolf sitting by a body of water and the bottom half of the picture is a reflection
of said wolf with ripples in the water. HOW does that work? and is it tedious?

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 417 of 446: Ray Lopez (ratthing) * Wed, Oct  7, 1998 (10:46) * 17 lines

java is a programming language developed by some engineers at
sun microsystems. the big deal about java was that it was
designed to operate on any computer platform, whether Windows,
Unix, Mac, etc. another important aspect of Java is that
it was designed to run across networks, so that the programs
could transmit themselves across a network to operate and
that they could also transmit information across networks.

if you already know how to program in C++ or another OO
language then Java is actually pretty easy to learn.
Otherwise it would be daunting for a beginner to pick up.

the wolf near water you are looking at is a java applet. applets
are small programs that run inside of web browsers that do
any cool things you want them to, all written in java.


 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 418 of 446: Wolf  (wolf) * Wed, Oct  7, 1998 (13:06) * 1 lines
so where can i learn this stuff? is it easy to pick up like html? should i move this discussion to web????? am i asking too many questions? help!!

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 419 of 446: html?  no sweat  (terry) * Wed, Oct  7, 1998 (15:15) * 1 lines
Sure, talk to us in web. I'm sure there's an html topic or two there. There are many resources for learning html on the web itself. Try doing a web search in http://www.infind.com and type the words html resources or html tutorial or html class and see what it brings back. What kind of system and software are you running, wolfie?

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 420 of 446: Wolf  (wolf) * Wed, Oct  7, 1998 (17:41) * 1 lines
windows 95, compaq pentium. html is okay, as i learn it as i go, but the other stuff--so, i'll do the search and will probably join web. thanks!!

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 421 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus  (terry) * Wed, Oct  7, 1998 (17:45) * 1 lines
There's also a great book with color illustrations but I'm not at home now to pull it off the shelf. It has a yellow border and is full of good examples. Let us know what your search unveils ok? Maybe we can post some of the better instructional sites in the web conference or perhaps even make a page of links. I use FrontPage for ease of use, but for years I've mostly coded html using the simplest of text editors like Windows Notepad.

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 422 of 446: Wolf  (wolf) * Wed, Oct  7, 1998 (23:12) * 6 lines
i'd really like to know if a code exists to put pictures where you want them--
i.e., center them in relation to each other (if one is bigger than the one next
to it) have smaller graphics sprinkled about without having to edit them into
wallpaper---that kind of stuff. i tried doing it with the front page thingy
i've got with this system but to no avail. will look about and let you guys know.
i can't be the only one with questions!

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 423 of 446: Ray Lopez (ratthing) * Wed, Oct  7, 1998 (23:17) * 12 lines

try using dynamic HTML (DHTML). there is a DHTML editor called
Astound that might be useful, wolfie.

you might also try some creative use of tables or frames in
regular HTML.

what i would do in that situation is to simply lay the pictures
out the way i want using a photo editor (e.g., PaintShop Pro)
then just merging them all into one bigass gif or JPG.



 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 424 of 446: Wolf  (wolf) * Wed, Oct  7, 1998 (23:42) * 2 lines
yeah but wouldn't that take some time to download? the page would take forever
to load up! i've heard of dhtml but don't know anything about it...thanks.....

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 425 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus  (terry) * Thu, Oct  8, 1998 (09:33) * 3 lines
William, please check the projects conference for some notes about what Evelyn needs, eg. getting Heidi and Karen set up to push content.

When we get a little further along, wolfie, you can have a front page enabled website here which will make it a lot easier.

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 426 of 446: Where's our little ree ree?  (terry) * Thu, Oct  8, 1998 (09:36) * 1 lines
Ree didn't check in last night!

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 427 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Fri, Oct 16, 1998 (10:22) * 3 lines
New!

Topic 55 in music: The Beatles.

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 428 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sat, Oct 17, 1998 (19:25) * 3 lines
The weather in Austin is getting out of hand. See topic 31 in the austin
conference.


 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 429 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sun, Oct 18, 1998 (12:40) * 7 lines
Topic 27 in cars:

car jokes


Find the car you drive in the list of cars and their personalities.


 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 430 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Wed, Oct 21, 1998 (12:19) * 2 lines
tv. ally mcbeal. Ally jumps on John Ritters face.


 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 431 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Wed, Oct 21, 1998 (15:05) * 24 lines
Bruce Sterling Establishes "Viridian List"

If you watch the news, you may have noticed that we Texans
have had a summer of unprecedent heat and drought,
followed by an autumn of unprecedented floods. I have
therefore started a new, second mailing list, which will
center around 21st century Green design issues. The new
"Viridian Mailing List" seeks a historical understanding
of technology, society, and their future trends, centering
around the Greenhouse Effect. Unlike Dead Media, which
has been very calm and scholarly, this Viridian list will
probably be rather strident and opinionated. If you
would like to join the Viridian List, send me email. I
will send you the 6,633-word text of my recent San
Francisco lecture, in which I vent some of my strong
feelings on this subject.

Bruce Sterling (bruces@well.com)


Where can we start a topic on this?

Which conference and what would the topic be called. Any suggestions?


 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 432 of 446: wer  (KitchenManager) * Thu, Oct 22, 1998 (20:46) * 2 lines
hmmm...how about spirit since that is where saving the world started...
or put it in cultures...

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 433 of 446: Riette Walton  (riette) * Fri, Oct 23, 1998 (02:26) * 1 lines
That sounds sensible.

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 434 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Thu, Oct 29, 1998 (08:09) * 10 lines
topic 333 in apps:

What are buddy lists? Read Microsofts astonishing press release. Is this
the beginning of the end for ICQ?

Can you find our newby from China? I hope he keeps coming back.

End male topic creation dominance!



 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 435 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Thu, Oct 29, 1998 (08:44) * 17 lines
y2k

Talk about it in Internet 31 (internet conference topic 31).



" For those absent in byline, I'm being bombarded with vitriolic and often
bizarre email about my story last week, "Y2K: The Missionary Position."
I'd be interested to know what folks think of the criticisms at...

http://www.wired.com/news/news/wiredview/story/15875.html

One person who wrote directly to me accused me of blaming Christians for
the Y2K problems."

_ Joe Nickell, Wired writer


 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 436 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus  (terry) * Tue, Feb  1, 2000 (00:48) * 1 lines
This is the first post in this topic on the new site.

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 437 of 446: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Wed, Feb  2, 2000 (14:00) * 1 lines
I see that it was just 22 minutes before the beginning of February. You must have slept well that night! Congratulations, again!

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 438 of 446: terry (sprin5) * Thu, Feb  3, 2000 (09:30) * 1 lines
I didn't sleep at all that night!

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 439 of 446: Alexander  (aschuth) * Thu, Feb  3, 2000 (13:54) * 1 lines
Autsch!

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 440 of 446: Wolf  (wolf) * Thu, Feb  3, 2000 (20:55) * 1 lines
alex! hey dude, how ya been?

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 441 of 446: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Thu, Feb  3, 2000 (21:53) * 1 lines
Ouch, indeed! Poor Terry. I also know another man who has spent an uncommonly vast number of hours laboring on our behalf. I wish I could hug you and let you know in person how much I appreciate the angst and sleep-deprivation you have undergone in the past weeks. My gratitude knows no bounds! Thanks, guys!

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 442 of 446: Alexander  (aschuth) * Sat, Feb 19, 2000 (17:50) * 1 lines
[Oi, Wolfspaws, how's ya 'n' yer pack doin' these days? Me hoppin' about and smackin' stuff over the head, gettin' things seen to. Mags shipping to print in - waiddaminute - 10 days. Printshop -10, but I'm in a better shape than usual. Wait three, four days, then I might be a nervous wreck as usual, but right now, nerves cool, good sleep, hands don't shake. And still stuff gets done. Looks like we got some of the kinks in production figured out - there are some more, but we know about them, and pack 'em in next time.]

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 443 of 446: Wolf  (wolf) * Sat, Feb 19, 2000 (21:31) * 1 lines
am happy for ya, alex!!

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 444 of 446: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Sat, Feb 19, 2000 (22:04) * 1 lines
Wolfie, are you ok? You sound down...*hugs*

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 445 of 446: Wolf  (wolf) * Mon, Feb 21, 2000 (21:01) * 1 lines
yeah, i'm fine...thanks for asking! *hugs*

 Topic 8 of 107 [news]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 446 of 446: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Fri, May  4, 2001 (00:48) * 6 lines
Motorcycle
farm
vc
business

A few of the places that I've posted today.
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