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Topic 9 of 106: Obits

Mon, Mar 2, 1998 (02:24) | Paul Terry Walhus (terry)
People die. We all do, ya know.
402 responses total.

 Topic 9 of 106 [news]: Obits
 Response 1 of 402: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Mon, Mar  2, 1998 (04:02) * 26 lines 
 
Who has died recently?

Grandpa Jones from Hee Haw. He joins Minnie Pearl and Bill Monroe in the
Opryland in heaven.

Abe Ribicoff, who stood up to Boss Daley at the 68 Demo convention bout
the demonstrators getting beat up by the Chicago cops outside. I saw a
cut on this on Meet the Press Sunday.

Henny Youngman. Good night Henny.

The guy who drew Spy vs. Spy in Mad died. Antonio Prohias.

Marie-Louise Von Franz. A Jungian analyst. A great contributor to the
psychological meaning of fairytales, which I've been deeply involved in
lately in the creation of the Spring's http://www.childrenstory.com
She minted the term "poer aeternis" for "eternal boy" who charms and
flies around and is delightful, seductive and and never grows up.

Who ever wants to grow up. And set sail on the ship that's going to sink?

And one more. J. T. Walsh, Jack Nicholson's second in command in a 'A
Few Good Men' and the psychopath in Sling Blade and the triple con
worker in "House of Games".




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 Response 2 of 402: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Tue, Mar 31, 1998 (15:51) * 6 lines 
 
Athelston F. Spilhaus

One of the greatest popularizers of science.

Look up one of his books next time you're at
the library.


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 Response 3 of 402: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Thu, Apr  2, 1998 (20:13) * 4 lines 
 
Paolo Soleri, builder of Arcosanti, died in a car crash.

Bella Abzug, wearer of hats.



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 Response 4 of 402: Autumn Moore  (autumn) * Sat, Apr  4, 1998 (23:40) * 1 lines 
 
That was her occupation?


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 Response 5 of 402: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sun, Apr  5, 1998 (00:15) * 4 lines 
 
She was a Congresswoman and leading figure in the women's movement.

And the story of Soleri's death is a *hoax*



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 Response 6 of 402: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Tue, Apr  7, 1998 (00:26) * 1 lines 
 
Tammy Wynette at 55.


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 Response 7 of 402: nick a'hannay  (pmnh) * Tue, Apr  7, 1998 (01:17) * 1 lines 
 
wow... miss tammy is dead?


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 Response 8 of 402: wer  (KitchenManager) * Tue, Apr  7, 1998 (03:10) * 2 lines 
 
hadn't heard that, either...
wow


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 Response 9 of 402: nick a'hannay  (pmnh) * Tue, Apr  7, 1998 (06:44) * 12 lines 
 
not like i'm a huge fan or anything
(and let's face it, belushi and ayckroyd
really did a better "stand by your man")...
but... wow... that's really sad... when
i was a little kid, in hooterville, you know,
"d-i-v-o-r-c-e" (and some other song- something
about this little kid that died, who was afraid
of the dark) used to really tear me up...
really, really sad...

(would be nice, though, if she could maybe
report back... on the angel issue, i mean)


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 Response 10 of 402: Autumn Moore  (autumn) * Tue, Apr  7, 1998 (22:25) * 1 lines 
 
Half of Milli Vanilli (couldn't tell you which one)


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 Response 11 of 402: wer  (KitchenManager) * Tue, Apr  7, 1998 (23:51) * 2 lines 
 
Rob, the light-skinned, ugly one...
or so the guys on KLBJ referred to him as


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 Response 12 of 402: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Thu, Apr  9, 1998 (10:00) * 8 lines 
 
Sandra McGovern
age 15, sophomore in high school
(I used to babysit her many years ago)
she and some friends were riding to the Poteet Strawberry Festival and were racing. One car bumped the other 'for fun' and the bumped car went out of control and flipped several times. Sandra was thrown from the vehicle. She was airlifted to WHMC (trauma

center) but died in the ER of massive head injuries.

the funeral was yesterday.


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 Response 13 of 402: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Thu, Apr  9, 1998 (11:21) * 1 lines 
 
Oh jeez Stacey, sorry to hear about this. Sympathies.


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 Response 14 of 402: nick a'hannay  (pmnh) * Thu, Apr  9, 1998 (11:52) * 13 lines 
 
whom the gods love die young, was said of yore.
and many deaths do they escape from this:
the death of lovers, and then that which slays even more-
the death of love, youth, all that is
except mere breath; and since the silent shore
awaits at last even those who longest miss
the old archer's shafts, perhaps the early grave
which men weep over may be meant to save.
(byron)

(sigh... i don't believe it either... pretty words...
dead is dead, and it sucks... very sorry about sandra
mcgovern, age 15... very sorry, indeed)...


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 Response 15 of 402: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Thu, Apr  9, 1998 (16:35) * 2 lines 
 
the pretty words sometimes help, even if they're hard to believe.
(thank you)


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 Response 16 of 402: Wolf  (Wolf) * Sat, Apr 18, 1998 (22:34) * 1 lines 
 
Ron E., the subject of one of my pieces, The Man That I Know, died of cancer, March 15. Rest in Peace, Ron...


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 Response 17 of 402: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sun, Apr 19, 1998 (10:58) * 1 lines 
 
Ding dong Pol Pot is dead.


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 Response 18 of 402: wer  (KitchenManager) * Sun, Apr 19, 1998 (11:11) * 1 lines 
 
So is Wendy O Williams


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 Response 19 of 402: Wolf  (Wolf) * Sun, Apr 19, 1998 (17:10) * 1 lines 
 
and Linda McCartney.....


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 Response 20 of 402: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sun, Apr 19, 1998 (18:00) * 17 lines 
 
I read that just now before I logged on. Paul's wife.
She died in Santa Barbara of breast cancer. I loved it
that she espoused the vegetarian cause with her cookbooks
and articles in Vegetarian Times. And, despite what some
say, she was a fine photographer.

From the MSNBC site where I read this:

Paul McCartney would issue an announcement later in the week and
asked that people wanting to send flowers should
give a donation to charities involved in cancer
research, animal welfare, or best of all the tribute
that Linda herself would like best: Go veggie.

Their marriage was one of the longest in show business
and produced three children, Mary, Stella and James.



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 Response 21 of 402: Wolf  (Wolf) * Sun, Apr 19, 1998 (22:29) * 1 lines 
 
oh, put the wrong date for Ron. It was March 14. Sorry......


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 Response 22 of 402: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Mon, Apr 20, 1998 (01:11) * 2 lines 
 
wow. bringing me back down to reality...
my condolenceses to those who require them...


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 Response 23 of 402: nick a'hannay  (pmnh) * Mon, Apr 20, 1998 (05:59) * 1 lines 
 
(godspeed, linda mac)...


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 Response 24 of 402: Wolf  (Wolf) * Thu, Apr 23, 1998 (18:03) * 1 lines 
 
James Earl Jones :(


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 Response 25 of 402: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Thu, Apr 23, 1998 (18:43) * 2 lines 
 
That's James Earl *Ray*; not James Earl Jones.



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 Response 26 of 402: Wolf  (Wolf) * Thu, Apr 23, 1998 (20:46) * 1 lines 
 
*blush* (t'anks) my bad!


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 Response 27 of 402: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Fri, Apr 24, 1998 (09:46) * 1 lines 
 
is anyone else still curious... did he really do it?


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 Response 28 of 402: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Fri, Apr 24, 1998 (11:59) * 2 lines 
 
The King family doesn't seem to think that he did it.



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 Response 29 of 402: Wolf  (Wolf) * Fri, Apr 24, 1998 (22:13) * 3 lines 
 
Oh, OK. was wondering who james earl ray was. and to think, i saw an interview on some news magazine about him.

Stacey, no am not curious. we'll find out one day.


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 Response 30 of 402: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sat, May  2, 1998 (09:49) * 0 lines 
 


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 Response 31 of 402: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sun, May  3, 1998 (13:02) * 7 lines 
 
Well, scribble works.

The body of Ethan Allan Crosby (David Crosby's brother) has been
found in nothern California. He'd disappeared earlier. Blurb in
today's Contra Costa Times.




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 Response 32 of 402: Wolf  (Wolf) * Sun, May  3, 1998 (21:24) * 1 lines 
 
oh wow...


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 Response 33 of 402: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Fri, May 15, 1998 (03:59) * 8 lines 
 
Frank Sinatra died last night at 10:50 pm at Cedars Sinai Medical Center,

1915-1998.

Dead at 82.

Francis Albert Sinatra.



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 Response 34 of 402: nick a'hannay  (pmnh) * Fri, May 15, 1998 (06:11) * 6 lines 
 
wow... that's really sad...
really respected sinatra- he changed popular music as profoundly, in his
way, as anyone... even own several of his records...
wow...
(guess this means the Rat Pack really IS down to the rats, now)...
(shit, who's gonna get custody of steve and edie?)


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 Response 35 of 402: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Fri, May 15, 1998 (17:59) * 2 lines 
 
wow...
mortality strikes again.


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 Response 36 of 402: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Thu, May 28, 1998 (21:38) * 11 lines 
 
Phil Hartman. He played Pres. Clinton on Saturday Night Live, recently
had a comedy series, was several voices on the Simpsons, and even did
album cover art and the logo for Crosby, Stills and Nash.

Found shot in his upscale Encino home. His wife shot herself as the
police arrived. They took his two children from the house, unharmed but
obviously shaken.

The shooter, possibly his wife. Under investigation.

Sad, the tragedy of SNL continues. Belushi, Radner, Farley, now Hartman.


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 Response 37 of 402: Wolf  (Wolf) * Sat, Jun 27, 1998 (00:25) * 1 lines 
 
He was also in Jingle All The Way. She was taking antidepressants and had alcohol and cocaine in her system. Very sad indeed...


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 Response 38 of 402: nick a'hannay  (pmnh) * Tue, Jul  7, 1998 (22:06) * 15 lines 
 
damn
roy rogers

(from the american statesman):
...when trigger died in 1965, rogers had the
golden palomino mounted and placed on display
in the (roy rogers) museum, to (dale) evan's
chagrin. "i was so angry, i said,'allright,
but when you go, i'm going to have you stuffed
and placed on top of trigger,' she said in 1984.
rogers responded: "i told her just to make sure
i'm smiling."

(damn, i loved that horse)
(loved roy, too... happy trails, bubba)


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 Response 39 of 402: Riette Walton  (riette) * Wed, Jul  8, 1998 (02:44) * 9 lines 
 
Who is Roy Rogers?

Nick, I am truly sorry we fell out yesterday. I'm not going to say you were right
or I was right. We were right to support Wolf, and wrong to snap at each other.
Unfortunately that kind of support is not going to help her, so I offer you truce.
I would also like to ask you to go back to poetry. You have been there for a
long time, you're very good there, and it isn't right to go just because you don't like me - it affects alot more people than just me. On the other hand, I'm not a poetry expert, so I'll stay away and leave the great responses up to you. Fact is, I do have a great deal of respect for your work, I sometimes used to go to poetry just to read the things you wrote, because I thought your responses beautiful, and admired you for it. Please go back and help Wolf keep that conference as
popular as it has been in the past. Oh, and tell her to feel free to scrap Emily. Her stiff upperlip doesn't fit in anyway!
All the best.


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 Response 40 of 402: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Wed, Jul  8, 1998 (11:24) * 4 lines 
 
Roy Rogers is a legendary American show biz cowboy. His sidekick had
been Dale Evans forever. He liked to dress in fancy duds and a cowboy
hat and boots, full regalia, and he rode a horse called . . . ???



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 Response 41 of 402: Riette Walton  (riette) * Wed, Jul  8, 1998 (12:04) * 3 lines 
 
Buck?




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 Response 42 of 402: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Wed, Jul  8, 1998 (13:03) * 2 lines 
 
Happy Trails to you, Roy Rogers.



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 Response 43 of 402: Ray Lopez (ratthing) * Wed, Jul  8, 1998 (13:18) * 4 lines 
 

Roy's horse was named Trigger. i am a huge fan of westerns, a big
roy rogers fan (grew up with his movies playing on TV thanks to my
dad) and am very saddened at his death.


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 Response 44 of 402: Riette Walton  (riette) * Wed, Jul  8, 1998 (15:20) * 1 lines 
 
Alot of the big celebrities seem to be dying at the moment, or have I just been blind up to now? And you are right, it is very sad, no matter who dies.


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 Response 45 of 402: nick a'hannay  (pmnh) * Sun, Jul 12, 1998 (20:24) * 55 lines 
 
(from savoy magazine):

The one constant in my life, the one thing that followed me from place
to place, was the cinema. There were movie theaters everywhere, from the
Denali in Anchorage, Alaska, to the Koza in Okinawa. And the constant in
movie theaters was the Western. Heroic individuals rode tall in the
saddle. They saved women and children, protected the aging, dispatched
bad guys, befriended the downtrodden and never surrendered their boots.
They got in knockdown, drag-out, glass-busting, furniture-demolishing,
mirror-shattering, bar-brawling fights and never lost their hats. They
extolled things like truth-telling and square-dealing. They were
faithful to the girl back home and their motherland and justice tempered
with mercy.

At the center of their cadre was a simple, soft-spoken man with
ever-smiling eyes. He wore a white hat and boots decorated with eagles.
He loved a girl named Dale and a horse named Trigger and he was
true-blue to both. He made me believe that some things couldn’t be
shaken, among them a simple characteristic called honor. For a kid whose
world changed more often than colors in a kaleidoscope, it was a
valuable lesson.

He also opened up a whole world of imagination to me, a world where bad
guys were always defeated, where good always prevailed, and where the
sun never set until a hero was riding into it. It was a world my brother
and I could share, even after other options were closed to us.

Roy Rogers remained an honorable man until his death on Monday, July 6,
of congestive heart failure. Thankfully, he left behind a legacy of
films that will maintain his legend for decades to come.

Happy trails, Roy. We’ll be thinking of you.
-Editor

(okay... i'll shut up about roy now... it's just, he was my first hero...
and while many (most, nearly all) heroes have feet of clay, roy was pretty
much the real deal... roy stood for something, and it was something good,
and something i'm afraid will be lost, as he and those like him perish into
memory... that's another thing- what he embodied, those values, was not
fiction... i've known men like roy, like him in the ways that mattered...
my dad was that kind of man, and his dad, and his...(etc.)... and these are
no doubt a vanishing breed, and this is made all too apparent to me by roy's
passing, and the impending millenium, and the terribly flawed generation i
(so ably) inhabit... sort of makes you realize... well, the differences, i
suppose... take stock, and hope that the choices we've made... the enterprises
we have discarded, as thoreau suggested, "like so many abandoned vessels"...
have been appropriate ones... may not be any way back to them, from here...
yeah... anyway... that's all i have to say)...
(except so long, to roy... and to all the roys... the resolute uncomplaining
men that populated my childhood... strong hands, capable it seemed of doing
anything... smiling eyes, which always seemed to fix on the best part of
whatever it was they saw... simple (by our terms), and honorable always...
i miss them, more than i ever believed i could)...




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 Response 46 of 402: Wolf  (wolf) * Sun, Jul 12, 1998 (20:47) * 2 lines 
 
i'm sorry about roy too. riette, they're passing because they're really getting
up there. even heros get old :(


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 Response 47 of 402: Riette Walton  (riette) * Mon, Jul 13, 1998 (03:01) * 2 lines 
 
We all do. I'm glad of it - I don't want to be 15 or 20 again, and I don't want
to live forever.


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 Response 48 of 402: Wolf  (wolf) * Mon, Jul 13, 1998 (19:12) * 1 lines 
 
no, definately not 15 again (20 maybe, cuz that's when i married my mr wolf)


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 Response 49 of 402: Riette Walton  (riette) * Tue, Jul 14, 1998 (02:50) * 3 lines 
 
I NEVER want my wedding day again. I was four months pregnant, on the
verge of vomiting the whole time, and convinced that I was making the mistake
of my life!


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 Response 50 of 402: Wolf  (wolf) * Tue, Jul 14, 1998 (13:47) * 1 lines 
 
me too! HAHA. standing there praying i wouldn't hurl on anyone!!!


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 Response 51 of 402: Riette Walton  (riette) * Tue, Jul 14, 1998 (15:55) * 2 lines 
 
ha-ha!!!
Great girls act alike! . . . Vomit alike?


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 Response 52 of 402: Riette Walton  (riette) * Tue, Jul 14, 1998 (15:57) * 4 lines 
 
Ooh, everyone, I've got news. I'm going on holiday in 2 weeks time . . . though
only for 6 days, sadly.
Mike, you'll practically feel my presence - going to the Lake District. Can't wait!!
I adore England, and wish I could immigrate there right now.


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 Response 53 of 402: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Tue, Jul 14, 1998 (18:23) * 5 lines 
 
Visualizes Mike waking up one night with a balloon over his head that says:

"I can feel the force!"




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 Response 54 of 402: Wolf  (wolf) * Tue, Jul 14, 1998 (20:06) * 1 lines 
 
haha!


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 Response 55 of 402: Riette Walton  (riette) * Wed, Jul 15, 1998 (02:28) * 1 lines 
 
Only one balloon?


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 Response 56 of 402: wer  (KitchenManager) * Wed, Jul 15, 1998 (20:57) * 3 lines 
 
Richard McDonald, one of the brothers who founded the McDonald's food
chain in San Bernadino, CA, in 1948, has passed away.



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 Response 57 of 402: Riette Walton  (riette) * Thu, Jul 16, 1998 (02:29) * 1 lines 
 
Then blue is the appropriate background, huh?


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 Response 58 of 402: Mike Griggs  (mikeg) * Thu, Jul 16, 1998 (19:44) * 4 lines 
 
it's funny when you drop into a topic and discover people talking about you when you've never posted there :-))

when you come to the UK, riette, i'd love to meet you. are you flying or boating?



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 Response 59 of 402: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Thu, Jul 16, 1998 (22:47) * 2 lines 
 
Swimming isn't she?



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 Response 60 of 402: Riette Walton  (riette) * Fri, Jul 17, 1998 (05:07) * 5 lines 
 
Wow! NO, Terry, that's a picture I never want entering anyone's head!! I'd be sinking all the way to England!!

Mike, I'd love to meet you too. But the chances look pretty slim. We're flying
to Manchester on the Wednesday evening, and will be driving to the Lake District straight away it seems, where a friend of ours has a cottage. Doesn't look like I'll be spending any time in Manchester at all. But you know what I can do? I could ask Chris to look after the kids and take the train to Manchester for a day. How far is Manchester from where you live? We could have a walk around, go for a pub meal (and exchange chocolate!!!), and go home again. How does that sound? That's the best I can
o, so let me know.


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 Response 61 of 402: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Fri, Jul 17, 1998 (07:03) * 1 lines 
 
Sounds too good to pass up, Mike!


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 Response 62 of 402: Riette Walton  (riette) * Fri, Jul 17, 1998 (11:38) * 1 lines 
 
The chocolate will make it worth while for him, I'm sure.


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 Response 63 of 402: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Fri, Jul 17, 1998 (12:32) * 2 lines 
 
Will Mike ever be pumped when he checks in and finds out!



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 Response 64 of 402: Riette Walton  (riette) * Fri, Jul 17, 1998 (16:32) * 1 lines 
 
BOOH!


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 Response 65 of 402: wer  (KitchenManager) * Wed, Jul 22, 1998 (12:37) * 3 lines 
 
Alan Shepard is dead at 74. He was 1 of only 12 men - all Americans - to
have walked on the moon.



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 Response 66 of 402: Riette Walton  (riette) * Wed, Jul 22, 1998 (13:30) * 2 lines 
 
Goodness.
And the rest of them? Are they all still alive?


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 Response 67 of 402: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Wed, Jul 22, 1998 (14:10) * 2 lines 
 
Robert Young
dead at 91


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 Response 68 of 402: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Wed, Jul 22, 1998 (15:55) * 2 lines 
 
Wow, Shepard was old. Father knew best.



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 Response 69 of 402: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Wed, Jul 22, 1998 (18:56) * 1 lines 
 
Shepard wasn't THAT old... Robert Young sure was though.


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 Response 70 of 402: Autumn Moore  (autumn) * Fri, Jul 24, 1998 (23:00) * 1 lines 
 
Of the original 12 astronauts, 3 are now dead. One is returning to space sometime this year!


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 Response 71 of 402: Riette Walton  (riette) * Sat, Jul 25, 1998 (05:18) * 1 lines 
 
REALLY? That's interesting. Which one?


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 Response 72 of 402: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sat, Jul 25, 1998 (08:05) * 1 lines 
 
John Glenn. US Senator from Ohio.


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 Response 73 of 402: Ray Lopez (ratthing) * Sat, Jul 25, 1998 (12:08) * 4 lines 
 

for info on John Glenn:

http://cnn.com/SPECIALS/1998/06/glenn


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 Response 74 of 402: Riette Walton  (riette) * Sat, Jul 25, 1998 (13:42) * 1 lines 
 
Thanks, I'll have a look.


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 Response 75 of 402: wer  (KitchenManager) * Fri, Jul 31, 1998 (11:17) * 14 lines 
 
*** TV cowboy 'Buffalo Bob' Smith dies of cancer

"Buffalo Bob" Smith, the kindly cowboy who with the help of a
freckle-faced wooden puppet named Howdy Doody pioneered children's
television, died Thursday. He was 80. Smith, who lived in Flat Rock,
N.C., died of lung cancer at Margaret R. Pardee Hospital in
Hendersonville, N.C., a hospital spokeswoman said. "Say kids, what
time is it?" Buffalo Bob cried out to open his show. "It's Howdy
Doody time," the lucky 40 kids in the studio "Peanut Gallery"
screamed. And with that, hundreds of thousands of kids watching from
home were off to Doodyville to spend the next half hour with Howdy
Doody. See
http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2555321942-742



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 Response 76 of 402: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Fri, Jul 31, 1998 (13:34) * 2 lines 
 
And Clarabelle was his clown. And Princess SummerSpringWinterFall, can't
forget her.


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 Response 77 of 402: Autumn Moore  (autumn) * Tue, Aug  4, 1998 (22:57) * 1 lines 
 
Shari Lewis, the woman behind (or next to) LambChop, Charlie Horse, Hush Puppy and the gang died of uterine cancer today at age 65. My kids will miss her!


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 Response 78 of 402: Wolf  (wolf) * Tue, Aug  4, 1998 (23:02) * 1 lines 
 
i read about that one today. don't think my kids really got into her and Lamb Chop....


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 Response 79 of 402: Autumn Moore  (autumn) * Tue, Aug  4, 1998 (23:05) * 1 lines 
 
Mine were only so-so on "Lambchop's Play Along", but more recently they loved her new show, "Charlie Horse Music Pizza." The paper said that they had already taped 3 new episodes for fall, and once they show them that will be the end of it (I guess there's always syndication).


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 Response 80 of 402: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Wed, Aug  5, 1998 (05:22) * 2 lines 
 
We're not kids any more.



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 Response 81 of 402: Wolf  (wolf) * Wed, Aug  5, 1998 (13:22) * 1 lines 
 
says who?


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 Response 82 of 402: Riette Walton  (riette) * Wed, Aug  5, 1998 (15:32) * 1 lines 
 
Glad we're not kids anymore. I didn't like it - too many rules and limitations to the whole thing.


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 Response 83 of 402: wer  (KitchenManager) * Tue, Aug 11, 1998 (00:15) * 1 lines 
 
and there aren't any when your an adult?


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 Response 84 of 402: Riette Walton  (riette) * Tue, Aug 11, 1998 (02:16) * 1 lines 
 
Sure there are - but now I get to choose my own rules and limitations, and don't have some lame-ar$ed adults telling me about right and wrong when they're totally buggered up themselves.


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 Response 85 of 402: Autumn Moore  (autumn) * Wed, Sep 16, 1998 (23:58) * 1 lines 
 
Former Alabama governor George Wallace, who went from "Segregation forever" to opposing it.


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 Response 86 of 402: Riette Walton  (riette) * Fri, Sep 18, 1998 (01:58) * 1 lines 
 
Wow! That's radical.


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 Response 87 of 402: Autumn Moore  (autumn) * Mon, Sep 21, 1998 (22:34) * 1 lines 
 
Olympian runner Florence Griffiths Joyner died today of a heart seizure--she was 38. Loved those fingernails, FloJo.


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 Response 88 of 402: Riette Walton  (riette) * Mon, Sep 21, 1998 (22:57) * 1 lines 
 
WHAT??? You serious? Flo Jo is dead??? I loved watching her run. What a terrible pity.


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 Response 89 of 402: Paul Terry Walhus  (terry) * Wed, Sep 23, 1998 (08:13) * 1 lines 
 
Cause?


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 Response 90 of 402: Riette Walton  (riette) * Wed, Sep 23, 1998 (14:47) * 1 lines 
 
Uhm.....too many Smarties?


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 Response 91 of 402: Smarties?  (terry) * Wed, Sep 23, 1998 (14:54) * 1 lines 
 
What do you mean, Ree?


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 Response 92 of 402: Riette Walton  (riette) * Thu, Sep 24, 1998 (02:28) * 1 lines 
 
Don't steroids come in all sorts of colours?


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 Response 93 of 402: Autumn Moore  (autumn) * Sat, Sep 26, 1998 (23:38) * 1 lines 
 
She always denied taking steroids and never failed a drug test.


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 Response 94 of 402: Riette Walton  (riette) * Sun, Sep 27, 1998 (04:50) * 1 lines 
 
That is because she dropped out of athletics the day before they tested.


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 Response 95 of 402: Wolf  (wolf) * Mon, Sep 28, 1998 (14:21) * 2 lines 
 
can someone tell me what a heart seizure is as opposed to heart attack, heart failure,
etc., etc. (and don't say it's when the heart seizes up)


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 Response 96 of 402: Ray Lopez (ratthing) * Mon, Sep 28, 1998 (16:14) * 31 lines 
 

my understanding is that a heart seizure occurs when the
nervous system of the heart goes into some sort of
spastic state. the heart has its own little neural
network and if the nodes of that network are not
precisely in step with each other then you get a seizure.

a "heart attack" is usually the result of a myocardial
infarction, which is just a fancy way of saying
clogged up heart arteries. the heart burns a lot of
oxygen and energy to do its job and this oxygen and
energy is supplied by four or five major arteries to the
heart. when those arterises get clogged, the heart
muscle starts to starve, as it gets worse, pain from
the starving heart tissue is referred to the shoulder
chest, and arm. soon the heart is unable to do it's
work and begins to fibrillate, then stop altogether.

cardiac failure occurs with even worse blockages of the
arteries throughout the body. the heart is starving and
trying to pump blood thru clogged arteries. as a
result is grows in size and can sometimes become 3 or 4 times
it's normal size. at some point the pumping becomes unable
to sustain normal function, and a person will pass out and
body systems (e.g., lungs, kidneys) will fail.

i was a medic a long time ago and this is about all
i can remember, and it is probably not accurate.

so, anyone for a cheeseburger?



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 Response 97 of 402: Wolf  (wolf) * Tue, Sep 29, 1998 (14:00) * 2 lines 
 
thank you for those definitions....would a heart seizure be along the same lines as
a brain seizure?


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 Response 98 of 402: Ray Lopez (ratthing) * Tue, Sep 29, 1998 (14:07) * 3 lines 
 

i think so.



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 Response 99 of 402: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Wed, Oct  7, 1998 (11:48) * 1 lines 
 
in our lethargy, we forgot to mention the passing of the singing cowboy and mr. planet of the apes.


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 Response 100 of 402: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Wed, Oct  7, 1998 (18:30) * 2 lines 
 
Gene Autrey and Roddy McDowell. I saw these movies for the first time
just a week ago when they ran a specail on cable tv.


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 Response 101 of 402: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Thu, Oct  8, 1998 (16:06) * 3 lines 
 
wow.
Long long ago... when I had a box of moving pictures in my house (actually my parents house) I must've seen Planet of the Apes at least 10 times.
BTW add that to the top ten list and amend the comment I made about Clash of the Titans and Excalibur in your heads please!


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 Response 102 of 402: Riette Walton  (riette) * Fri, Oct 16, 1998 (13:42) * 1 lines 
 
I've never seen it. Is it really that good?


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 Response 103 of 402: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Fri, Oct 16, 1998 (14:19) * 3 lines 
 
Animal rights activist Kingsley Amis (I may have the name incorrect) and
writer for Saturday Evening Post.



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 Response 104 of 402: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Fri, Oct 16, 1998 (14:40) * 8 lines 
 
Cleveland Amory is who I meant to say.


Cleveland Amory, noted cat lover, animal fancy-ist, ad curmudgeon died
yesterday, according to NPR. He will be buried on his Black Beauty Ranch
(home to unwanted animals) next to his cat Snowball. He was 81.




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From: pgp@pgmedia.net (Paul Garrin)
To: nettime-l@Desk.nl
Subject: Remembering Jon Postel
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From: pgp@pgmedia.net (name.space)
Subject: Remembering Jon Postel

I just received this mail indicating that Dr. Jon Postel, controversial
head of the IANA (Internet Assigned Numbers Agency) died on October 17.
I
have not yet received details on the circumstances of his death but will
post them as soon as they come in.

Although I disagreed with Dr. Postels actions of late, I have always had
a
high degree of respect and admiration for his important contributions to
the internet. His death is an untimely tragedy.

--Paul
Garrin

>Forwarded-From: Dave Farber

I, and others I fear, have spent a sleepless night after hearing of the
death of Jon Postel last night. This morning there was a note in my mail
box from Vint Cerf that said many of the things I feel at this time. I
asked him for permission to send on which he granted.

I also remember Jon. I was his primary thesis advisor along with Jerry
Estrin and I remember with fond memories the months spent closely working
with Jon while his eager mind developed the ideas in back of what was a
pioneering thesis that founded the area of protocol verification. Since
I
was at UC Irvine and Jon at UCLA we used to meet in the morning prior to
my ride to UCI at a Pancake House in Santa Monica for breakfast and the
hard work of developing a thesis. I gained a great respect for Jon then
and 10 pounds of weight.

I will miss him greatly. Jon was my second Ph.D. student. The first,
Philip Merlin, also died way before his time.

Dave
________________________________________________________________________

October 17, 1998

I REMEMBER IANA

Vint Cerf

A long time ago, in a network, far far away, a great adventure took place

Out of the chaos of new ideas for communication, the experiments, the
tentative designs, and crucible of testing, there emerged a cornucopia of
networks. Beginning with the ARPANET, an endless stream of networks
evolved, and ultimately were interlinked to become the Internet. Someone
had to keep track of all the protocols, the identifiers, networks and
addresses and ultimately the names of all the things in the networked
universe. And someone had to keep track of all the information that
erupted with volcanic force from the intensity of the debates and
discussions and endless invention that has continued unabated for 30
years. That someone was Jonathan B. Postel, our Internet Assigned Numbers
Authority, friend, engineer, confidant, leader, icon, and now, first of
the giants to depart from our midst.

Jon, our beloved IANA, is gone. Even as I write these words I cannot
quite
grasp this stark fact. We had almost lost him once before in 1991. Surely
we knew he was at risk as are we all. But he had been our rock, the
foundation on which our every web search and email was built, always
there
to mediate the random dispute, to remind us when our documentation did
not
do justice to its subject, to make difficult decisions with apparent
ease,
and to consult when careful consideration was needed. We will survive our
loss and we will remember. He has left a monumental legacy for all
Internauts to contemplate. Steadfast service for decades, moving when
others seemed paralyzed, always finding the right course in a complex
minefield of technical and sometimes political obstacles.

Jon and I went to the same high school, Van Nuys High, in the San
Fernando
Valley north of Los Angeles. But we were in different classes and I
really
did not know him then. Our real meeting came at UCLA when we became a
part
of a group of graduate students working for Prof. Leonard Kleinrock on
the
ARPANET project. Steve Crocker was another of the Van Nuys crowd who was
part of the team and led the development of the first host-host protocols
for the ARPANET. When Steve invented the idea of the Request for Comments
series, Jon became the instant editor. When we needed to keep track of
all
the hosts and protocol identifiers, Jon volunteered to be the Numbers
Czar
and later the IANA once the Internet was in place.

Jon was a founding member of the Internet Architecture Board and served
continuously from its founding to the present. He was the FIRST
individual
member of the Internet Society I know, because he and Steve Wolff raced
to
see who could fill out the application forms and make payment first and
Jon won. He served as a trustee of the Internet Society. He was the
custodian of the .US domain, a founder of the Los Nettos Internet
service,
and, by the way, managed the networking research division of USC
Information Sciences Institute.

Jon loved the outdoors. I know he used to enjoy backpacking in the high
Sierras around Yosemite. Bearded and sandaled, Jon was our resident
hippie-patriarch at UCLA. He was a private person but fully capable of
engaging photon torpedoes and going to battle stations in a good
engineering argument. And he could be stubborn beyond all expectation. He
could have outwaited the Sphinx in a staring contest, I think.

Jon inspired loyalty and steadfast devotion among his friends and his
colleagues. For me, he personified the words =93selfless service.=94 For
nearly 30 years, Jon has served us all, taken little in return, indeed
sometimes receiving abuse when he should have received our deepest
appreciation. It was particularly gratifying at the last Internet Society
meeting in Geneva to see Jon receive the Silver Medal of the
International
Telecommunications Union. It is an award generally reserved for Heads of
State but I can think of no one more deserving of global recognition for
his contributions.

While it seems almost impossible to avoid feeling an enormous sense of
loss, as if a yawning gap in our networked universe had opened up and
swallowed our friend, I must tell you that I am comforted as I
contemplate
what Jon has wrought. He leaves a legacy of edited documents that tell
our
collective Internet story, including not only the technical but also the
poetic and whimsical as well. He completed the incorporation of a
successor to his service as IANA and leaves a lasting legacy of service
to
the community in that role. His memory is rich and vibrant and will not
fade from our collective consciousness. =93What would Jon have done?=94
we
will think, as we wrestle in the days ahead with the problems Jon kept so
well tamed for so many years.

There will almost surely be many memorials to Jon=92s monumental service
to the Internet Community. As current chairman of the Internet Society, I
pledge to establish an award in Jon=92s name to recognize long-standing
service to the community, the Jonathan B. Postel Service Award, which is
awarded to Jon posthumously as its first recipient.

If Jon were here, I am sure he would urge us not to mourn his passing but
to celebrate his life and his contributions. He would remind us that
there
is still much work to be done and that we now have the responsibility and
the opportunity to do our part. I doubt that anyone could possibly
duplicate his record, but it stands as a measure of one man s
astonishing contribution to a community he knew and loved.

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 Response 106 of 402: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Fri, Oct 23, 1998 (10:48) * 117 lines 
 
Autopsy report says FloJo's death caused by epileptic seizure
CBS SportsLine wire reports
Oct. 22, 1998


SANTA ANA, Calif. -- World record sprinter Florence Griffith Joyner
suffered an epileptic seizure that caused her to die of asphyxiation,
coroner's authorities said Thursday.

Griffith
Florence Griffith Joyner's autopsy report indicates she died during an
epileptic seizure as she slept. (AP)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Joyner, 38, died at her Mission Viejo home on Sept. 21, and investigators
had been trying since then to determine the cause. There had been
speculation about heart problems, and some had suggested the world's
fastest woman used performance-enhancing drugs.

None of it was true, Orange County officials said. "Flojo" to fans and
competitors, Griffith Joyner had a congenital brain abnormality known as
cavernous angioma, said Dr. Barbara Zaias, one of the investigators.

The condition allows blood to accumulate outside normal blood vessels in
the brain or spinal tissue, and may be found in 25 percent of the
population, she said. Once considered rare, it has been detected more
often in recent years with the advent of CAT scans and other diagnostic
tools.

THE SEIZURE APPARENTLY struck during sleep, causing Griffith Joyner's
limbs to tense. It possibly wrenched her head to the right as she lay on
her stomach, said Dr. Richard Fukumoto, chief of forensics for the Orange
County sheriff and coroner.

"In layman's terms, she suffocated," Fukumoto told reporters. Explaining
the term "positional asphyxia," he said her airway was probably already
constricted by the involuntary turning of her head. Pillows and blankets
on that side further hampered her oxygen supply.

"This episode I would say would have taken minutes, only," Fukumoto said.
"Definitely less than an hour."

Her husband, 1984 Olympic triple jump champion Al Joyner, called
paramedics after discovering she was not breathing that morning.

Toxicology tests showed she had taken about one tablet each of the
over-the-counter painkiller Tylenol and antihistamine Benadryl, but "there
was nothing unusual in terms of drugs," said Lt. Frank Fitzpatrick, head
of forensic sciences for the sheriff's office.

NOR WERE THERE ANY OBVIOUS heart problems, Fukumoto said.

Griffith Joyner never failed a drug test. Family, friends and sports
officials were happy to hear those rumors die.

"We now hope that this great Olympic champion, wife and mother can rest in
peace, and that her millions of admirers around the world will celebrate
her legacy to sport and children every day," U.S. Olympic Committee
president Bill Hybl said. "It is time for the whispers and dark
allegations to cease."

World-class athletes expressed similar sentiments.

"I had felt bad about all the statements that had been made about her,"
said Roger Kingdom, two-time Olympic champion in the 110-meter hurdles.
"I'm glad she's been cleared and exonerated. Now, she can rest in peace,
and the rest of the world can see that she was a great athlete."

Dwight Stones, former world record-holder in the high jump, said she was
"the most tested athlete" of the 1988 Olympics. ``I think this (the
autopsy) is fabulous and phenomenal vindication for her and her family.
Now, they should just leave her alone," he said.

ADDED LONG-JUMPER Martha Watson, a four-time Olympian, "She did too much
for our sport to be accused of things that no one ever was able to
confirm."

Sandra Farmer-Patrick, a former record holder in the 400-meter hurdles,
has long ties to the sprinter. Griffith Joyner was the godmother of
Farmer-Patrick's daughter.

"I just hope they'll let her rest in peace like they should have done
before," she said Thursday. "It's time to stop the allegations -- they're
ridiculous. They were disturbing to her family and friends and quite
disrespectful."

The seizure was not Griffith Joyner's first. She was hospitalized in 1996
a day after suffering a seizure on a flight to St. Louis. Her husband and
daughter were traveling with her, but the family declined to discuss her
condition at the time.

Many people never show symptoms of cavernous angioma and may live their
whole lives without knowing they have it. In others, it can cause
headaches and seizures, Zaias said. The condition can sometimes be
detected by CAT scans and can be treated, she said. But sometimes scans
fail to detect it.

DURING THE PRESS CONFERENCE, sheriff's spokesman Lt. Hector Rivera cut off
questions about Griffith Joyner's medical history and whether the
condition had been diagnosed.

The abnormality has never been associated in medical research with
steroids or any other drugs, Fukumoto said. It may develop right along
with the brain of a fetus, Zaias said.

Stylish, smooth and muscular, Griffith Joyner won three Olympic gold
medals in the 1988 Seoul Games and set world records that still stand in
the 100- and 200-meter dashes.

In the mid-1980s, Griffith Joyner moved from Watts, her home neighborhood
in southern Los Angeles, to upscale Mission Viejo on the Orange County
coast.

Her flowing black hair, skin-tight outfits and glittering 6-inch
fingernails brought a dash of flash to track and field. A line of athletic
shoes and clothes that she had been working on was scheduled to go on sale
next month.


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 Response 107 of 402: nick a'hannay  (pmnh) * Fri, Oct 23, 1998 (21:45) * 4 lines 
 
shit
in a way it's almost sadder, knowing this
so arbitrary, you know?



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 Response 108 of 402: nick a'hannay  (pmnh) * Fri, Oct 23, 1998 (21:47) * 3 lines 
 
sigh
okay convoluted reasoning
(but look who's reasoning)


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 Response 109 of 402: Riette Walton  (riette) * Sun, Oct 25, 1998 (01:43) * 1 lines 
 
Poor flo Jo. And her poor husband and kids.


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 Response 110 of 402: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sun, Oct 25, 1998 (12:32) * 2 lines 
 
I wonder if Sonja has seen this in her cat scans?



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 Response 111 of 402: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Tue, Nov 10, 1998 (11:27) * 5 lines 
 

Jean Marais died in France. The beast in Cocteau's Beauty and the Beast,
among other screen credits. Cocteau's lover.




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 Response 112 of 402: Wolf  (wolf) * Tue, Nov 10, 1998 (11:31) * 1 lines 
 
is there a photo somewhere of him?


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 Response 113 of 402: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Tue, Nov 10, 1998 (14:18) * 2 lines 
 
I don't have one. Try a web search?



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 Response 114 of 402: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Mon, Nov 16, 1998 (09:31) * 5 lines 
 
Stokely Carmichael died in Africa. He started Black Power.

He became Kwame Ture.




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 Response 115 of 402: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Mon, Nov 16, 1998 (09:32) * 4 lines 
 
More details:

Stokely Carmichael, age 57, in Conakry, Guinea, cancer.



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 Response 116 of 402: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Mon, Dec 14, 1998 (10:10) * 3 lines 
 

rip Mo Udall, Lawton Chiles, Lord Lew Grade...



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 Response 117 of 402: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Mon, Dec 14, 1998 (10:11) * 11 lines 
 

Lew Grade founded ATV, the first commercial TV station in the
UK, and was responsible for series like ``The Saint,'' and the
Muppets, The Persuaders, George and Mildred, Thunderbirds and
(if I'm not mistaken) The Prisoner.

He produced movies like the Pink Panther series, On Golden Pond, The
Exorcist, Sophie's Choice, and the ill-fated Raise The Titanic.
Of "Raise The Titanic" he said "It would have been cheaper to lower the
Atlantic."



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 Response 118 of 402: Wolf  (wolf) * Mon, Dec 14, 1998 (21:51) * 1 lines 
 
the saint? the val kilmer saint movie? loved pp, the muppets, sophie's choice (although it really made me cry). hopefully he was really really old.


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 Response 119 of 402: Wolf  (wolf) * Tue, Dec 15, 1998 (10:48) * 1 lines 
 
Mr. Roper from Three's Company. He died as a result of cancer.


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 Response 120 of 402: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Thu, Dec 17, 1998 (15:42) * 5 lines 
 
Novelist William Gaddis died yesterday, aged 75, of prostate cancer.
Gaddis wrote the post WWII classics the Recognitions, JR, Carpenter's Gothic,
and a Frolic of His Own. Apparantly, he was able to finish a fifth novel,
"Agape Agape" before he died.



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 Response 121 of 402: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Thu, Dec 17, 1998 (15:43) * 1 lines 
 
love...love


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 Response 122 of 402: Wolf  (wolf) * Fri, Dec 18, 1998 (11:27) * 1 lines 
 
love has died? (stacey, is that what agape means? this is how i read it-- a gape but is it read ah gahpeh?)


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 Response 123 of 402: T Patrick McCourt  (PT) * Fri, Dec 18, 1998 (13:29) * 2 lines 
 
Agape is a greek word meaning: the deepest, most committed, form of love. Your
second pronunciation is close. The accent is on the second syllable.


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 Response 124 of 402: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Fri, Dec 18, 1998 (21:08) * 2 lines 
 
yes, you got it wolf.
Thanks for the additional explanation Patrick


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 Response 125 of 402: T Patrick McCourt  (PT) * Sat, Dec 19, 1998 (12:56) * 1 lines 
 
You're welcome, anytime, Stacey.


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 Response 126 of 402: wer  (KitchenManager) * Sun, Dec 20, 1998 (03:43) * 2 lines 
 
although sometimes, and someplaces, you're much
more welcome than others!


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 Response 127 of 402: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Mon, Dec 21, 1998 (17:21) * 1 lines 
 
*giggle*


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 Response 128 of 402: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Thu, Jan 14, 1999 (08:58) * 4 lines 
 


Fred Astaire.



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 Response 129 of 402: wer  (KitchenManager) * Fri, Jan 15, 1999 (13:04) * 2 lines 
 
Iron Eyes Cody is memorialized at
http://www.kab.org/index.html


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 Response 130 of 402: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sat, Jan 16, 1999 (19:50) * 1 lines 
 
Whew that was a lot of obits.


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 Response 131 of 402: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Mon, Feb  8, 1999 (07:33) * 13 lines 
 
King Hussein of Jordan.

Here's a good obituary done by the Washington Post:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/inatl/longterm/hussein/hussein.htm

New York Times editorial on the passing of King Hussein:

http://www.nytimes.com/yr/mo/day/editorial/06sat1.html

Queen Noor, (aka Lisa Halaby of San Mateo, CA) is his surviving wife.




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 Response 132 of 402: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sat, Feb 20, 1999 (18:45) * 5 lines 
 
Gene Siskel.

Thumb down.




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 Response 133 of 402: Wolf  (wolf) * Sat, Feb 20, 1999 (20:54) * 1 lines 
 
so sad.


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 Response 134 of 402: wer  (KitchenManager) * Sun, Feb 21, 1999 (01:09) * 2 lines 
 
we forget to mention that
John Ehrlichman died on Valentine's Day...


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 Response 135 of 402: Wolf  (wolf) * Sun, Feb 21, 1999 (10:27) * 1 lines 
 
who was he?


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 Response 136 of 402: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sun, Feb 21, 1999 (14:28) * 6 lines 
 
One of the Nixon staff.

Here's Eberts tribute to Siskel:

www.suntimes.com/output/eb-feature/rog21i.html



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 Response 137 of 402: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Mon, Feb 22, 1999 (08:54) * 6 lines 
 


Wilmer "Vinegar Bend" Mizell, age 68. Major League pitcher (Cardinals,
Pirates, Mets) 1952-62; U.S. Congressman, 1968-74.

One of my favorite sports heroes from my days in St. Louis.


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 Response 138 of 402: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Tue, Feb 23, 1999 (12:37) * 2 lines 
 
wow.
Siskel.


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 Response 139 of 402: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Fri, Feb 26, 1999 (19:49) * 3 lines 
 
Glenn Seaborg has died, at age 86.
http://www.lbl.gov/Science-Articles/Archive/glenn-seaborg-obit.html



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 Response 140 of 402: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Thu, Mar  4, 1999 (07:17) * 7 lines 
 
Rob Haubner, an Intel manager and a member of the original i960 team,
and his wife, Susan Miller, hacked to death by machete-wielding rebels
in Rwanda, while on a trek to observe endangered mountain gorillas...
six other western tourists reportedly lost their lives in this incident
as well...

Terrible!


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 Response 141 of 402: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Thu, Mar  4, 1999 (07:55) * 24 lines 
 
Dusty Springfield, 59, breast cancer

You Don't Have to Say You
Love Me, Son of a Preacher Man

I Only Wanna Be With You

Rest peacefully, Dusty. What a sexy voice.





And it was Uganda not Rwanda.

Today's London Times ran a story on the Uganda killings claiming that the
rebels specifically pulled out the British and American members of the
party in protest against (I think) British and American support of the Tutsis.
Six British people died, IIRC, at least one of whom was only about 23, a
recent graduate taking a break before concentrating on his career. The
French in the group were spared, as was one (British?) woman who faked an
asthma attack.




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 Response 142 of 402: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Mon, Mar  8, 1999 (08:21) * 9 lines 
 
Stanley Kubrick

2001

Clockwork Orange

Details at http://www.cnn.com/SHOWBIZ/Movies/9903/07/kubrick.obit/




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 Response 143 of 402: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Mon, Mar  8, 1999 (08:39) * 4 lines 
 
Where have you gone Joe Dimaggio?

Joe Dimaggio, 84.



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 Response 144 of 402: Wolf  (wolf) * Mon, Mar  8, 1999 (18:23) * 1 lines 
 
to that great big baseball field in the sky....


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 Response 145 of 402: Autumn Moore  (autumn) * Mon, Mar 22, 1999 (23:35) * 1 lines 
 
Joltin' Joe has left and gone away...hey hey hey...


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 Response 146 of 402: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Mon, May 10, 1999 (19:02) * 2 lines 
 
a sad day...
http://www.cnn.com/books/news/9905/10/AM-Obit-Silverstein.ap/


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 Response 147 of 402: Wolf  (wolf) * Mon, May 10, 1999 (19:37) * 1 lines 
 
yesterday, dana something-or-other of different strokes fame, was found dead. she was 34 or 36.


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 Response 148 of 402: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Tue, May 11, 1999 (11:51) * 1 lines 
 
as i recall, she fought a pretty continuous battle with drugs...


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yup, and it ended that way too. the day before, she told howard stern she was off drugs. sad, huh? (dana plato, 34).... i believe she had a child or two as well.




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btw: above photo was from infoseek's entertainment site....


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Saul Steinberg, the wonderful and versatile artist best known for his
countless appearances in the pages and on the cover of The New Yorker
(the most famous being the oft-reproduced and imitated view of the world from
a New York perspective), died at 84 on May 12.



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Gene Sarazen, 97, pneumonia. On May 13.


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Wrestling tour goes on after Owen Hart's death

Emergency medical personnel give Hart CPR inside the wrestling ring   Thousands witness accident; television audience does not

May 24, 1999
Web posted at: 7:33 p.m. EDT (2333 GMT)
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'Wrestlers were openly weeping'

What witnesses saw

WWF: 'We have no answers'

'We thought they were just playing with us'

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KANSAS CITY, Missouri (CNN) -- A World Wrestling Federation tour was set to continue on Monday while an investigation looked for the cause of a fatal plunge by Owen Hart, a Canadian wrestler who went by the name "Blue Blazer."

Hart fell 50 feet, hit his head and died Sunday when a wire holding him in the air either broke or became disconnected while he was being lowered into the ring during a WWF match at Kemper Arena in Kansas City, Missouri.

There were more than 16,000 people in attendance but viewers watching the event on pay-per-view television did not see the fall, which occurred about 75 minutes into the show. Recorded highlights of Hart's career were being shown at the time.

'Wrestlers were openly weeping'

As Hart's fellow performers were boarding a plane in Kansas City on Monday for a cross-state flight to St. Louis, WWF President Vince McMahon Jr. said the death had provoked grief among the team.

"Wrestlers were openly weeping last night," McMahon said, his eyes filling with tears.

The WWF canceled the encore and replay Pay-Per-View program that was scheduled for Tuesday and Thursday. The following live events were also canceled: Peoria, Illinois; Winnipeg, Manitoba; Hamilton, Ontario; Montreal; and Ottawa, Ontario.

What witnesses saw

Hart, 33, the younger brother of Bret (The Hitman) Hart, a star with rival World Championship Wrestling, fell as he was being lowered from the arena's ceiling as his match introduction was about to begin. Wrestler Owen Hart, right, applies a choke hold to his brother Bret Hart in this undated photo  

It was a stunt he had performed before.

Some witnesses said the cable snapped, while others said it appeared Hart was somehow disconnected from it.

They said his head snapped backward when he hit a turnbuckle, one of the padded pieces of metal that hold the ropes together in each corner of the ring.

Hart was given CPR inside the ring as the ring announcer haltingly told the audience that the incident was not scripted, as professional wrestling matches openly are.

The wrestler was pronounced dead at a hospital.

"He was supposed to be lowered down into the ring," said Michelle Hindorff, a paramedic and dispatcher for Kansas City's ambulance service.

"It didn't get hooked on to him. He thought it was hooked on," she said.

WWF: 'We have no answers'

The World Wrestling Federation said it is investigating what went wrong.

"We at the WWF are saddened by the tragic accident that occurred here tonight," McMahon said Sunday. "We have no answers as to how this happened yet. We will shortly." Hart curls a dumbbell while working out in a gym in this 1996 photo   'We thought they were just playing with us'

Hart was known for his acrobatic stunts and some members of the audience thought his fall was part of an act.

"We thought it was a doll at first," said 15-year-old Robert McCome. "We thought they were just playing with us. We were really shocked when we found out that it was no joke."

"He was moving pretty fast (as he fell)," said Jesse McDonald, who was sitting near the ring. "His chin and neck hit the top rope."

The arena fell into silence.

"I didn't see it, but from what I can gather, somebody slipped up," Hart's 83-year-old father, former wrestler Stu Hart, said from the family home in Calgary, Alberta.

"You don't get up 60 or 70 feet in the air without being properly anchored down," he said. "I haven't talked to Vince McMahon yet, but somebody was careless or missed something or else Owen would still be here."

The WWF is one of the biggest draws on cable and pay-per-view TV. The WWF admits that its events are more entertainment then sport.

Hart's fall happened in the second part of an event called "Over the Edge." The first portion, called "Sunday Night Heat," was televised live on the USA cable network.

The TV audience was being shown a montage of Hart's clips when he fell and the camera panned through the crowd while paramedics worked on him. The show stopped for 15 minutes before Hart was taken away, and the matches resumed.

All seven of Stu Hart's sons entered professional wrestling, with Owen joining in 1989. He had recently told a magazine that he was planning to leave wrestling when his contract was up.

Survivors include his wife, Martha, and two young children.

His older brother Bret "The Hitman" Hart, the current heavyweight champ with the rival World Championship Wrestling, canceled a scheduled appearance on "The Tonight Show" Monday to fly home to be with his family in Canada.

The WCW issued a statement on Owen Hart's death:

"We are shocked and saddened by this terrible tragedy. Our thoughts and prayers are with Bret Hart and the entire Hart family."

The Associated Press contributed to this report.
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 Response 155 of 402: Alexander Schuth  (aschuth) * Thu, May 27, 1999 (10:22) * 2 lines 
 
Oh, I have seen you have noticed Rob's untimely demise
( http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/read/news/9.10 ). Did You know Milli Vanilli was a German band? Rob lived in Munich, but the band was managed and produced by Frank Farian (the very man who did Boney M., who were, yes it's true, also a German band). Farian's famous studio is about 35 kilometers north of Frankfurt, right in my county.


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i knew milli vanilli was german *grin*


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 Response 157 of 402: Alexander Schuth  (aschuth) * Sat, May 29, 1999 (06:02) * 1 lines 
 
Actually, we German men all have these braided hairdos, I thwear!


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and you all lip sync too, huh? *grin*


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 Response 159 of 402: Alexander Schuth  (aschuth) * Sat, May 29, 1999 (12:52) * 1 lines 
 
Well, some sync, some pay and some bust lip. Whaddaya expect, we here derive from headhunting tribes!


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Clifton Fadiman


http://www2.nando.net:80/noframes/story/0,2107,62064-98653-702226-0,00.html

Hope that works.


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Astronaut Conrad Dies In Motorcycle Accident

By Dan Whitcomb

LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Former Apollo astronaut Charles ''Pete'' Conrad Jr., who in 1969 became the third person to walk on the moon, died after crashing his motorcycle on a California highway, authorities said Friday. He was 69.

Conrad was riding his 1996 Harley Davidson Thursday with his wife Nancy and a group of friends on a central California highway Thursday afternoon when he apparently lost control of his motorcycle on a curve and was thrown onto the pavement, said Ventura County deputy coroner James Baroni.

He died about five hours later while being treated at a hospital for internal bleeding. An exact cause of death has yet to be determined pending an autopsy.

Baroni said Conrad's wife and friends, who were traveling with the space legend to Monterrey from his home in Huntington Beach, saw the accident and summoned an ambulance, but did not immediately realize the extent of his injuries.

``Initially ... I don't think the family thought it was all that serious,'' Baroni said. ``He apparently flew off, landed on his chest, had some scrapes and bruises and a little difficulty breathing, but he was able to walk around and talk.''

Baroni said an ambulance crew brought him to a hospital emergency room where his blood pressure began to drop and his abdomen started to swell -- signs that he was losing blood. He was rushed into surgery, but his heart soon stopped beating.

Conrad, a veteran of four space flights, was best known for his role as commander of the second lunar landing on Nov. 19, 1969, on the Apollo 12 mission. U.S. astronaut Neil Armstrong became the first person on the moon on July 20, 1969, followed by crewmate Edwin ``Buzz'' Aldrin on the Apollo 11 mission.

In a 1996 interview with the Los Angeles Times, Conrad recalled that: ``the Earth resembled a beautiful blue marble suspended against a black velvet blanket.'' Conrad also described himself to the paper as a thrill-seeker, saying he enjoyed ``fast bikes, fast cars and anything that moves.''

Howard Benedict, director of the Astronaut Scholarship Foundation who knew Conrad and as a reporter covered the Apollo missions, said of the astronaut's death: ``We have lost not only a friend but a strong voice for the future in space. It was a shock to have him die so tragically.''

Benedict remembered Conrad's sense of humor, recalling his reaction when lightning struck Apollo 12: ``He said 'hey guys, I think we just got hit by lightning.' He said 'this place was lit up like a pinball machine in here'.''

Benedict said when Conrad -- who at 5-foot-6 (1.67 meters) was the shortest member of the crew -- took his first step onto the moon, a drop of three feet (1 meter), ``His first words were 'whoopee. That may have been one small step for Neil but it was a heck of a long one for me.''

NASA Administrator Daniel Goldin called Conrad a space ''pioneer'' who was deeply committed to his country.''

Conrad was born on June 2, 1930, and was interested in flight from childhood, building model airplanes and working in an airfield machine shop to pay for flying lessons at age 15. He piloted the Gemini 5 mission in 1965, commanded Gemini 11 in 1966 and Apollo 12 three years later.

In his final space mission, Conrad headed the first crew in the Skylab space station, which sustained damage during its launch. He and his crew repaired Skylab during three harrowing spacewalks, saving the program from potential failure.

Conrad retired from the U.S. Navy and NASA in 1974. After leaving the space agency Conrad devoted his time to developing reusable spacecraft, first with aerospace giant McDonnell Douglas and later as chief executive officer of a Newport Beach, California, company called Universal Space Lines.

Jim Albaugh, president of Boeing, which now owns McDonnell Douglas, said of Conrad: ``He served his country so well and so enthusiastically as an astronaut, as a naval officer and as a private citizen. ``His accomplishments and legacy will endure.''



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 Response 162 of 402: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Tue, Aug 10, 1999 (18:18) * 40 lines 
 
Two obits today, the inspiration for Crocodile Dundee and the world's
oldest goldfish.


From the Washington Post obituaries section 8/5/99:

Rodney Ansell

Crocodile Dundee Model

Rodney Ansell, an Australian bushman who inspired
the 1986 hit movie "Crocodile Dundee" has been killed in a shootout
with police in the outback. Police said he shot and killed a policeman
by a roadblock south of Darwin, capital of the Northern Territory, on
Aug. 3 before being shot dead by the officer's partner.

Local media said Mr. Ansell, once named Territorian
of the Year, was the role model for Paul Hogan's knife-slinging outback
hero Crocodile Dundee. Ken Shadie, who wrote "Crocodile Dundee" with
Hogan and John Cornell, had seen a television interview with Ansell by
British journalist Michael Parkinson. That interview fired Hogan's
imagination about a bushman superstar that led to the making of the
first Dundee film.

Police could not explain Mr. Ansell's action, but
said he might have been involved in a shooting incident on Monday night
after which the roadblock was set up on the lonely Stuart Highway.
Assistant Commissioner John Daulby told reporters Mr. Ansell could
easily have evaded the roadblock but instead shot at a policeman from
behind some bushes.


And then there's:


Tish, the world's oldest goldfish, 43.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/newsid_414000/414114.stm




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Victor Mature. 86. Of cancer.

William Shatner's wife, found dead in the family swimming pool by Shatner
last night.



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Food Network to Broadcast Salute to 'Two Fat Ladies'
Jennifer Paterson Tribute

Honoring the Memory of One of Television's Biggest Personalities Airs Sunday, August 15, from 9 - 11 p.m. ET.


New York, August 10, 1999--Food Network today announced plans to broadcast a special tribute in honor of Two Fat Ladies' Jennifer Paterson. Paterson, 71, died early today at a hospital in London where she was being treated for lung cancer. The announcement was made today by Eric Ober, Food Network president and general manager.

-- read the rest at http://www.foodtv.com/fn/contact/paterson/press.htm


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wait, a 43 year old GOLDFISH??? Was it a koi?


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Waaaaahhhhhh! I loved the fat ladies!


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Me, too.


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Who were they?


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These two older British women have a cooking show on PBS. I love their rapport, they're always dishing out these saucy little comments (couldn't resist the pun!)


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How did I miss something from the BBC?! I am now getting the Food Channel scrambled so I heard them mentioned in some future programming lineup = a tribute or whatever to these ladies. Must see if I can look sideways enough to see anything. Thanks, Autumn, dear.


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Posted: Friday August 20, 1999 12:45 AM

As a motivational speaker, Kim Perrot told young women there was nothing they could not achieve. Elsa Hasch/Allsport


HOUSTON (AP) -- Kim Perrot, the popular Houston Comets point guard who was the heart and soul of the two-time WNBA champions, died Thursday of lung cancer. She was 32.

Perrot died peacefully with friends and family by her side at the University of Texas M.D. Anderson Cancer Center, the team said.

Perrot, diagnosed with lung cancer on Feb. 19, had been seeking alternative treatment in Tijuana, Mexico after undergoing surgery Feb. 24 to remove tumors in her brain, where the lung cancer had spread.

"The world is not as good as it was before 3 o'clock today," said Carroll Dawson, the executive vice president for basketball for the Comets.

The Comets were in Los Angeles on Thursday preparing for Friday night's game against the Los Angeles Sparks. Dawson said the team planned to play the game.

"They thought she would want them to play, and I can guarantee you that she did. She would be kicking their tails if they didn't play," Dawson said.

Coach Van Chancellor said even though he knew Perrot's condition was grave, news of her death still caught him off guard.

"I was just totally unprepared when they called me. I thought I would be ready for it but in no way was I ready," Chancellor told Houston television station KRIV.

"The entire WNBA family is devastated by this tragic loss," WNBA president Val Ackerman said in a statement. "We will remember Kim as a woman of great heart and indomitable courage who refused to be daunted by any challenge."

Her condition worsened during her second trip to Mexico. She returned to Houston last Saturday.

"It's totally changed my life," Perrot told Houston television station KTRK shortly after disclosing her illness. "I've never been really sick or injured and now I'm faced with life or death. It's just tough. All I can do is put it in the hands of the Lord."

The Lafayette, La., native arrived in Houston three years ago, fresh off the professional women's circuit in Europe. She was signed as a developmental player for the fledgling Women's National Basketball Association franchise here.

Despite her 5-foot-5 frame, Perrot quickly became a starter and crowd favorite noted for ferocious play that helped the Comets clinch championships in 1997 and 1998, the league's inaugural seasons.

Last year, Perrot averaged 8.5 points and 4.7 assists and made 84 steals in 30 regular-season games and was second in voting for WNBA defensive player of the year.

During the offseason, Perrot began suffering headaches. After conducting several tests, doctors delivered the startling diagnosis of lung cancer for Perrot, a nonsmoker. The cancer already had spread to her brain when it was detected.

"I have the will to win. I won't accept anything less than winning." she told the television interviewer. "With this type of illness I'm facing now, I take the same approach. I won't be defeated. I just feel confident this is just a challenge, just a trial for me. ... I work really well under pressure."

After brain surgery, Perrot entered radiation treatment to attack tumors in her head. She went to Mexico for alternative medical procedures rather than submit to chemotherapy prescribed by her Houston doctors.

"Her fight off the court against cancer was heroic and brave," Houston Mayor Lee Brown said. "Although she lost her battle, she leaves the legacy of a winner."

Perrot played four seasons at Southwestern Louisiana. She scored 58 points against Southeastern Louisiana in 1990, the second-highest total in NCAA history.

Perrot set 26 other school records, including the career scoring mark of 2,157 points.

She played six years in Europe for pro teams in Sweden, Germany, Israel and France, returning to the United States in 1997.

In one of her last public appearances, on June 22, Perrot accepted her second championship ring during a Comets home game.

"Who would have thought Kim Perrot would be a two-time WNBA champion?" she said. "When no one else believed in me, my teammates and the fans stuck with me."

Despite her illness, Perrot made about 100 public appearances as a motivational speaker, often at schools. In one of her last regular columns for the Houston Chronicle's teen supplement "Yo!," she told young women there was nothing they could not achieve.

"It's such an exciting time to be a female athlete in the U.S.A," she wrote. "I encourage you young women to follow your dreams. It will take a lot of hard work and determination, but there are no limits to what you can do."

Survivors include her mother, Consuella Perrot; two brothers, Craig Perrot and Kevin Perrot; and a sister, Loretta Perrot, all of LaFayette, La.


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Aug 23, 1999, John Jeffrey Chambers. My best friend since 1981. His roommate e'd me with the news. He went peacefully after complications from a seizure. I know he is in a better place, but I don't think he knew how much I love(d) him. He was 32.


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My condolences.


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 Response 174 of 402: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Mon, Sep  6, 1999 (00:39) * 1 lines 
 
Oh Wolf, I am so sorry!!! *hugs*


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Koi are actually a Japanese carp species, and though they often are gold colored, they are not goldfish. With proper care (cleaned, aerated ponds) koi can live over 300 years and are often passed down many generations in Japanese families. They are quite popular in Hawaii.


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thanks, guys, for your thoughts *hugs*


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Allen Funt, the human nature expert and creative genius behind/original host of Candid Camera. Dead at 84. Died peacefully at his home in California. Suffered a stroke in 1993 from which he never fully recovered. Candid Camera started on radio as Candid Microphone. Moved to television in 1948. Some form of the program has been on the air ever since. The program reached its zenith in the 1960s with a 7-year run on CBS. Other than news, was the first "reality based" program, pav
ng the way for "Cops," "America's Most Wanted" and other programs of the genre.

When you least expected, you're elected, it's your lucky day
Smile, you're on Candid Camera.
With our hocus pocus, you're in focus, you're the star today
Smile, you're on Candid Camera.

It's fun to look at yourself, it's the tonic, tried and true,
It's fun to laugh at yourself, as other people do.

How's your sense of humor? There's a rumor
You'll go far today. Smile, you're on Candid Camera.



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 Response 178 of 402: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Thu, Sep  9, 1999 (09:35) * 3 lines 
 
Smile!




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Jim "Catfish" Hunter, righthanded pitcher, clubhouse prankster extroadinaire, and legendary barroom brawler. Cy Young Award winner. Ace hurler of the dynastic Oakland A's in the early 1970s of ALS (Lou Gehrig's Disease). Age 53. Between the A's and Yankees, was on five World Series champions. When Hunter was drafted out of high school by the A's, iconoclastic team owner Charles O. Finley asked, "What's your nickname?"

Hunter said, "I don't have one."

"What do you like to do," Finley probed.

"Hunt and fish," the genial Southerner replied.

"This is your story," Finley said. "Remember it. When you were six years old you ran away from home with your fishing pole. Your parents looked all day for you and when they finally found you, around three o'clock that afternoon, you had caught two catfish and was reeling in a third. You have been 'Catfish' ever since."

And what a magnificent "Cat" he was. Jim Hunter. Baseball legend and Hall of Famer.


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And his team mates say he was very generous. He always bought eveyone
food and drinks.


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true suthahnuh!


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Actress Ruth Roman Dead at 75

LAGUNA BEACH, Calif. (AP) -- Ruth Roman, who starred opposite Gary Cooper and Errol Flynn and survived the Andrea Doria wreck at sea, has died. She was 75.
Roman died Thursday in her sleep at her Laguna Beach home, said her son, Richard Hall.

In 1956, she and her son -- then 3 -- were returning from Italy aboard the luxury passenger liner Andrea Doria when it was struck by another ship. More than fifty people died and 760 survived after the ship went down.

The Boston-born actress got her start in community plays at age 9. She attended drama school and later moved to Hollywood.

Roman appeared in some minor films before her big break in Stanley Kramer's 1949 "Champion," which featured Kirk Douglas as an unscrupulous boxer. Following the film, Warner Bros. offered Roman a contract and she starred in nine films in less than two years opposite Cooper, Flynn and James Stewart.

Roman also appeared in "Beyond the Forest" with Bette Davis, "Three Secrets" with Patricia Neal and "Mara Maru" with Flynn. Her other films included "The Far Country" with Stewart, "Bitter Victory" with Richard Burton and "Dallas" with Cooper.

In all, Roman appeared in more than 30 movies, most of them in the 1950s, and a number of television shows in the 1960s and 1970s, including "Naked City," "Knots Landing" and "Murder She Wrote."

Roman once told The [New York Times] of her shipwreck experience that she never feared she would or her son would die. She said she was dancing on board the Andrea Doria when, "We heard a big explosion, like a firecracker."

When it became clear the ship was sinking, passengers began piling into lifeboats. With her son, she climbed down a rope ladder to one of the boats, but it pulled away before they could hop on. Soon they were put on another lifeboat.


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Jazz Trumpeter Harry 'Sweets' Edison Dead At 83

(7/28/99, 1 p.m. PDT) - Jazz trumpeter Harry "Sweets" Edison, whose distinguishable soft sound led to a professional career working with a long list of famous singers and big-band leaders, died Tuesday (July 27) in Columbus, Ohio after a lengthy battle with prostate cancer. He was 83.

Born in Columbus in 1915, Edison began playing professionally at the age of 12,
and was soon performing with the Jeter-Pillars Orchestra in Cleveland and St.
Louis. As a teen, he played with the Lucky Millinder band in New York.

By the time he was 18, he had joined the Count Basie Orchestra, where Basie
saxophonist Lester Young later gave him the nickname "Sweets" to describe his
playing style.

After the Basie band split up in 1950, Edison found himself in high demand as a
session player for a variety of top-name vocalists. Throughout the decade, he
logged time performing with Billie Holiday, Ella Fitzgerald, Josephine Baker, Frank Sinatra, and Nat 'King' Cole.

Edison also launched a solo career during this period, an endeavor that
eventually yielded nearly three dozen releases, from Sweets at The Haig in the
early 1950s to Live At The Iridium in 1997. In addition to playing with his own
group, he appeared on the rosters of a number of big bands through the years,
including those of Buddy Rich, Quincy Jones, Henry Mancini and Nelson Riddle.

Though he had relocated to Los Angeles for much of his career, Edison's
deteriorating health prompted him to return to his hometown of Columbus late in
1998. He had continued to perform, however, bringing his trademark sound to
audiences with a trip to Europe last spring, and was scheduled to play at the
Long Beach Jazz Festival in California this coming weekend.

Edison is survived by his daughter, Helena.


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Reuters news
'Honeymooners' creator dies

LOS ANGELES, SEPTEMBER 15 — Veteran comedy writer Harry Crane, who created the Jackie Gleason TV classic ``The Honeymooners'' and wrote gags for some of the funniest men in show business, has died at age 85, a spokesman said Wednesday.

Crane succumbed to cancer Monday night at his Beverly Hills home, according to publicist Warren Cowan, who also was Crane's son-in-law.

During a career that spanned half a century, Crane wrote jokes and sketches for such comic greats as Milton Berle, Jimmy Durante, Abbott and Costello, Laurel and Hardy, the Marx Bros., Dean Martin, Jerry Lewis, Joey Bishop, Danny Thomas, Henny Youngman and Red Skelton.

But he is perhaps best remembered for giving birth to ``The Honeymooners,'' which started out as a 1951 comedy sketch Crane wrote featuring Gleason as New York bus driver Ralph Kramden, who is forever hatching get-rich-quick schemes with his sewer worker pal Ed Norton (Art Carney).

The bit first appeared that year as part of the early DuMont television network's ``Cavalcade of Stars,'' then became a fixture on the CBS variety series ``The Jackie Gleason Show'' before being expanded into its own half-hour sitcom in 1955.

As a principal writer for the Gleason variety show, Crane also helped create a number of Gleason's other signature characters.

``The Honeymooners,'' which co-starred Carney, Audrey Meadows and Joyce Randolph, aired just 39 episodes before leaving the air in 1956, but the classic series has enjoyed a considerable rerun after-life in syndication.

The Brooklyn-born Crane began his showbiz career at age 19 as a standup comic in the ``Borscht Belt'' and was later recruited by Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer as a writer.

He made his screenwriting debut with the 1943 Laurel and Hardy comedy ``Air Raid Wardens,'' and his credits also include ''The Harvey Girls'' (1946), starring Judy Garland, and ``Song of the Thin Man'' (1947) with William Powell and Myrna Loy.

Moving into television in the 1950s, Crane developed long-term relationships with a new generation of entertainers, -- among them Gleason, Berle, Martin, Perry Como and Dinah Shore -- for whom he wrote series and specials. His TV credits include a number of major awards shows during the '50s, '60s and '70s.

He also is credited with giving a career boost to such promising young comedy writers as Mel Brooks, Neil Simon and Garry Marshall, and he continued to contribute nuggets of humor to the biggest names in Hollywood until falling seriously ill several months ago.

Crane is survived by his wife, Lillian, two daughters, three grandchildren and four great-grandchildren.


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 Response 185 of 402: John Burnett  (mrchips) * Thu, Sep 16, 1999 (16:53) * 1 lines 
 
"One day, Alice! POW! Right to the moon!"


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 Response 186 of 402: Alexander Schuth  (aschuth) * Sat, Sep 18, 1999 (16:37) * 3 lines 
 
Lemme guess - that comet-discovering chap? But he died a while ago...

(Wolf: Sorry.)


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 Response 187 of 402: John Burnett  (mrchips) * Sat, Sep 18, 1999 (19:05) * 1 lines 
 
And so did Jackie Gleason, the guy famous for delivering that line.


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 Response 188 of 402: John Burnett  (mrchips) * Thu, Sep 23, 1999 (17:16) * 7 lines 
 
Oscar winner George C. Scott died Wednesday (Sep. 22, 1999) at his home in the Los Angeles suburb of Westlake Village. He was 71. Cause of death was not immediately disclosed.

Scott won the best-actor Oscar in 1970 for his performance in the title role of Patton (1970). Critic John Gillett said at the time: "Here is an actor so totally immersed in his part that he almost makes you believe he is the man himself." However, Scott refused to attend the Oscar ceremonies or even to accept the statuette, claiming that the Oscar race was a pointless contest that failed to contribute to the betterment of the industry or the acting profession.

Scott was born October 18, 1927, in Wise, Virginia. He made three critically acclaimed cable movies in the last three years Inherit the Wind (1999), a remake of the classic about the historic Scopes Monkey Trial, Rocky Marciano (1999), in which he played the father of the late, great "Brockton (Mass.) Blockbuster", the undefeated heavyweight champion (1948-52), and a remake of Reginald Rose's award winning 12 Angry Men (1996), a jury-room drama in which he played Juror #3, the embitt
red antagonist.



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 Response 189 of 402: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Mon, Sep 27, 1999 (01:51) * 35 lines 
 
From CNN
Plane slams into side of Hawaiian volcano, killing 10
September 26, 1999 Web posted at: 8:43 p.m. EDT (0043 GMT)
From staff and wire reports KAILUA KONA, Hawaii (CNN)
-- Ten people on board a twin-engine sightseeing airplane died when it crashed
on the side of Hawaii's Mauna Loa volcano.
Federal Aviation Administration spokeswoman Diana Joubert said search crews located the wreckage at 6:30 a.m.
Sunday at an elevation of about 10,500 feet. The volcano reaches 13,679 feet.
Rescue crews later reached the remote site on the "big island" of Hawaii, where they found no survivors. The PA-31/350
Piper Chieftain, with a pilot and nine passengers, was operated by Big Island Airlines, which offers regularly
scheduled sightseeing tours.
"The plane was totally demolished, just like a plane would be if it went into rocks at a high rate of speed," said Doug
Lentz, spokesman for Hawaii Volcanoes National Park, where Mauna Loa is located.
"It's pretty rough terrain on the side of the volcano, with plenty of lava fields," said Roy Mann, the airline's operations
director.
Identities of the victims were not immediately released. The recovered bodies were being flown by helicopter to the city
of Hilo on the east side of the island.
The plane had taken off about 4:30 p.m. Saturday for a tour of Mauna Loa and Mauna Kea, two dormant volcanoes.
About three hours later, Big Island officials notified Kona International Airport that the plane was an hour overdue.
Searchers began looking for the plane but suspended their search when darkness fell. They resumed the search
Sunday morning and found the plane about an hour later, Joubert said.
Since a large part of the island is inaccessible by car, air tours are a popular way to see it, including the active Kilauea
volcano. Helicopters and planes fly near the bubbling summit and then over nearby valleys to view rainbows and
waterfalls.

From John Burnett (who was on the air during the morning and had to scramble for his coverage:
The plane crash in Hawaii Sat. eve. Sep. 25 was here on the Big Island. Was a two-engine tourist plane, a Piper Navajo
Chieftain, with 10 aboard, including the pilot. It took off from Kona airport on the west side of the island at 4:22 p.m. Was
reported missing shortly after 6 p.m. A Coast Guard helicopter discovered the still smoldering wreckage on the
northeastern slopes of Mauna Loa (on the Hilo side) shortly after 6 a.m. Sunday. The plane, which was 16 years old and
considered relatively young and airworthy, had slammed into the side of the mountain. Weather conditions were unknown. The last transmission from the pilot, who had worked for Big Island Air, the tour plane company, for over five years, was a request to enter restricted
airspace, nothing unusual for a tour plane. It is the first mishap ever for Big Island Air. As of this posting, no names of
victims have been released, but all ten aboard are confirmed dead. The wreckage was charred and most, if not all, will
have to be ID'd through dental records.



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 Response 190 of 402: Riette Walton  (riette) * Mon, Sep 27, 1999 (05:00) * 1 lines 
 
Boy, that's so tragic.


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 Response 191 of 402: Wolf  (wolf) * Mon, Sep 27, 1999 (20:10) * 1 lines 
 
euw, i heard about this on the news. very sad indeed.


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 Response 192 of 402: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Mon, Sep 27, 1999 (20:24) * 1 lines 
 
The last I heard they were still hunting for the remains of the 10th victim. It is very rugged terrain up on that a'a flow...That is another job I am glad someone else is willing to do...ID'ing the charred remains of crash victims!


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 Response 193 of 402: Wolf  (wolf) * Mon, Sep 27, 1999 (20:27) * 1 lines 
 
sad that they have to look for teeth just to figure out who they were. i pray those people didn't suffer.


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 Response 194 of 402: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Mon, Sep 27, 1999 (20:40) * 1 lines 
 
If you saw the picture of the plane, the entire front 2/3rds is disintegrated into a few pieces of metal. Those people never knew what they hit or what hit them... Mercifully!


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 Response 195 of 402: Wolf  (wolf) * Mon, Sep 27, 1999 (20:46) * 1 lines 
 
no, didn't see the actual footage.


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 Response 196 of 402: Riette Walton  (riette) * Tue, Sep 28, 1999 (05:16) * 1 lines 
 
I'd rather not.


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 Response 197 of 402: Riette Walton  (riette) * Tue, Sep 28, 1999 (05:17) * 1 lines 
 
Isn't it amazing how death slaps one in the face every time you open a newspap