Topic 2 of 38: Americ's Philosophy
Mon, Nov 10, 1997 (10:34) |
Americ Azevedo (americ)
I am reserving this space for "Americ's Philosophy". From time to time, sometimes, once a day, I put an idea down. Feel free to comment or ignor.
The free, random wonderings of my mind and life.
149 responses total.
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Response 1 of 149: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Mon, Nov 10, 1997 (11:25) * 3 lines
That's a great thing, Americ. I'll look forward to these philosophical
meanderings and try to meander a bit myself.
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Response 2 of 149: Americ Azevedo (americ) * Mon, Nov 10, 1997 (12:09) * 11 lines
Philosophy is a wide open kind of thing for me.
When I studied it at San Francisco State University and at University of California, Irine -- I was greatly disappointed by the fact that people
had walled philosophy into a "discipline".
I see philosophy as something that everyone does.
Children and young people do philosophy all the time.
They take the great ideas seriously enough, so that they are willing
to play with them.
By the time most people become "educated" they have lost the capacity for
philosophy and perfer dogma.
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Response 3 of 149: Americ Azevedo (americ) * Tue, Nov 11, 1997 (13:56) * 4 lines
Rain here in Northern California these past two days.
Feeling like Fall, now.
Feeling like my body is part of all this --- nature.
Often....due to my techno-life, I forget that I am nature, too.
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Response 4 of 149: Americ Azevedo (americ) * Mon, Nov 17, 1997 (12:47) * 5 lines
Today is the first
and last day
of my life.
So I might as well
make the best of today.
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Response 5 of 149: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Tue, Nov 18, 1997 (10:49) * 1 lines
A wonderful thought, thank you.
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Response 6 of 149: Americ Azevedo (americ) * Tue, Nov 18, 1997 (11:52) * 10 lines
I think that people are very afraid of depression.
It is the most fearsome emotion (or lack of emotion).
We use a lot of drugs to overcome it.
Yet, I believe, that depressions are periods of great
internal integration. Things are happening within us
that the mental/emotion system cannot "see".
Often, after a depression, there is great creativity
and insight.
So it is good to work with depression as if it were some kind
of friend.
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Response 7 of 149: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Tue, Nov 18, 1997 (12:19) * 2 lines
Depression is only fearsome when you don't know what is going on. If you know you are down and if you can figure out why, everything is still okay and predictable. When your emotions are out of control and you don't understand what is hapening -- that is (for good reason) frightening.
Periods of situational depression have been good for me but only after I have assessed the situation and begun on a path to investigate why I am in the state I am in. Once I know the why, I can begin to resolve the situations, feelings in my life that have overshadowed my happiness. Wallowing in a depression is dangerous -- the thoughts are less constructive and occassionally dangerous.
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Response 8 of 149: Americ Azevedo (americ) * Tue, Nov 18, 1997 (15:30) * 5 lines
Well put Stacey!
A long time ago a friend gave me one of my best suggestions about life
during a depression:
"Never, ever make a decision while you are depressed."
That has kept from from doing more stupid things than I would normally do anyway.
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Response 9 of 149: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Wed, Nov 19, 1997 (10:49) * 1 lines
good advice, I should heed it more often. Unfortunately, I have made a couple major decisions while situationally depressed. In a short time, I discovered they were not the most well thought out moves.
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Response 10 of 149: Americ Azevedo (americ) * Thu, Nov 20, 1997 (00:49) * 5 lines
So the best thing...is to do those things that keep us out of depression
or help depression go away.
Sunshine, fresh air, singing, playing flut...etc.
Good friends,....etc.
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Response 11 of 149: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Thu, Nov 20, 1997 (10:02) * 3 lines
If you heard me play the flute... there's a deep depression for you!
I find too that, if I'm upset about something, letting myself vent (scream, cry, yell or writing it all down) allows me to wallow for a bit, get it out and return to a more balanced state more quickly.
All this opposed to holding it in and avoiding the issue.
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Response 12 of 149: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Thu, Nov 20, 1997 (13:43) * 2 lines
That sounds so healthy! I tend to hold it in.
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Response 13 of 149: wer (KitchenManager) * Thu, Nov 20, 1997 (14:12) * 2 lines
And in case no one could tell,
so do I.
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Response 14 of 149: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Fri, Nov 21, 1997 (09:49) * 1 lines
*smile*
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Response 15 of 149: wer (KitchenManager) * Fri, Nov 21, 1997 (09:53) * 1 lines
Good morning, stacey.
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Response 16 of 149: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Fri, Nov 21, 1997 (10:20) * 1 lines
Good Morning!
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Response 17 of 149: Americ Azevedo (americ) * Mon, Nov 24, 1997 (17:51) * 8 lines
Good afternoon.
I decided to not be on the net for almost 2.5 days.
Like an addict withdrawing from his favorite addiction.
I resisted it. Found myself thinking and feeling things
that I would not feel, if I had spent so much time in front
of the computer screen.
Like any drug, this Interent and World Wide Web thing can
be used but should not be abused....
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Response 18 of 149: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Mon, Nov 24, 1997 (19:13) * 5 lines
Absolutely, you've got to see, feel, hear, and taste real folks.
And go on those long walks.
I take time for these things.
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Response 19 of 149: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Tue, Nov 25, 1997 (11:11) * 1 lines
Americ, nick and I thought we had run you off with our idle banter!
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Response 20 of 149: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Tue, Nov 25, 1997 (12:36) * 3 lines
Americ, are we going to meet some of your students and coterie of
followers here sometime?
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Response 21 of 149: Americ Azevedo (americ) * Tue, Nov 25, 1997 (14:52) * 3 lines
Yes...
in fact am sending one of my research associates into The Spring.
Expect a posting from Bett Lujan Martinez soon.
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Response 22 of 149: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Tue, Nov 25, 1997 (15:57) * 2 lines
Great!
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Response 23 of 149: Americ Azevedo (americ) * Thu, Nov 27, 1997 (00:26) * 3 lines
Also we are just ending the semester.
It's the new group in January that I can point to The Spring.
I will just make it part of their homework. :)
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Response 24 of 149: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Thu, Nov 27, 1997 (08:05) * 5 lines
If you want to use your own public or private conference to
conduct your class, feel free. I'll be happy to open any new
areas you need. And if your students come up with some suggestions,
beware, we'll probably use 'em.
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Response 25 of 149: Americ Azevedo (americ) * Thu, Nov 27, 1997 (22:08) * 1 lines
Thank you. This is great!
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Response 26 of 149: Americ Azevedo (americ) * Sat, Nov 29, 1997 (11:53) * 11 lines
I am seeing that this philosophy conference is like a garden.
Terry gave me a plot of cyber-land
I planted a few seeds
Now the garden is starting to grow
It warms my heart to see
new friends and old friends and relatives
coming here to make contributions
I see the spirit of dialogue and mutual respect growing here
I love the way things are growing
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Response 27 of 149: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sat, Nov 29, 1997 (20:28) * 8 lines
I love it too.
Recently a friend has given me a place to grow and
I know how you feel. I am going through some transformations
of my own.
I'm glad things are expanding and growing for you.
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Response 28 of 149: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Fri, Dec 5, 1997 (18:16) * 3 lines
"I believe you rarely achieve more than you expect." -- Carol Grosse
A crazy turn of events for me... I have a new teaching position!!!
I am the self-contained ED (Emotionally Disturbed) teacher at Knight Academy as of Monday.
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Response 29 of 149: nick a'hannay (pmnh) * Fri, Dec 5, 1997 (18:46) * 1 lines
Congrats!...
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Response 30 of 149: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Fri, Dec 5, 1997 (19:37) * 2 lines
thank you.
I'm glad to be in one place all day and the challenge is definitely positive!
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Response 31 of 149: wer (KitchenManager) * Sat, Dec 6, 1997 (23:54) * 1 lines
good going, stacey!
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Response 32 of 149: Americ Azevedo (americ) * Sun, Dec 7, 1997 (12:49) * 1 lines
Congrat! Stacey.
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Response 33 of 149: Americ Azevedo (americ) * Sun, Dec 7, 1997 (12:53) * 5 lines
I was reading the following on this rainy Sunday morning:
"...And God is truth...Only our very being is more fundamental to us than
truth. We must have truth; only then can we begin to live,
only then can we rest in beauty's contemplation..." (My Way of Life)
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Response 34 of 149: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Mon, Dec 8, 1997 (17:49) * 2 lines
The quote I had my students read and copy today:
"Don't let yesterday take up too much of today." Roy Rogers
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Response 35 of 149: Americ Azevedo (americ) * Tue, Dec 9, 1997 (14:02) * 5 lines
"Be here now!"
Live life fully, now.
Good remember...
...again and again.
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Response 36 of 149: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Tue, Dec 9, 1997 (18:14) * 1 lines
"People are just about as happy as they make up their minds to be." -- Abraham Lincoln.
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Response 37 of 149: nick a'hannay (pmnh) * Tue, Dec 9, 1997 (19:12) * 1 lines
"only that day dawns to which we are awake."-henry thoreau
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Response 38 of 149: Americ Azevedo (americ) * Tue, Dec 9, 1997 (19:26) * 2 lines
life is short,
live it now.
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Response 39 of 149: nick a'hannay (pmnh) * Tue, Dec 9, 1997 (19:36) * 1 lines
rock on, beavis...
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Response 40 of 149: wer (KitchenManager) * Tue, Dec 9, 1997 (23:22) * 2 lines
"Love is always fun, love is never sappy
And Mr. Troll is crying 'cause he's happy." Shoulders
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Response 41 of 149: nick a'hannay (pmnh) * Tue, Dec 9, 1997 (23:27) * 1 lines
that's cool, wer...
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Response 42 of 149: wer (KitchenManager) * Wed, Dec 10, 1997 (00:54) * 3 lines
Gee, thanks, I was going to put in a quote from
"Offerings" but those lyrics jumped out at me
instead.
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Response 43 of 149: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Wed, Dec 10, 1997 (09:37) * 2 lines
*smile*
I like it too.
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Response 44 of 149: Americ Azevedo (americ) * Tue, Dec 16, 1997 (21:12) * 13 lines
I think it is important to remember
again and again
that philosophy is not an answer or set of answer.
It is a path toward wisdom.
Philosophy means of the "love of wisdom."
I, of course, find that most of what passes as "philosophy" in universities and book stores is bad philosophy.
Just a lot of words.
What I want is a kind of attention that brings the
heart and mind up to a new level of awareness;
that makes us question our lives enough
so that we actually make a little progress.
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Response 45 of 149: wer (KitchenManager) * Wed, Dec 17, 1997 (00:58) * 4 lines
Question for thought:
Why have most Holy days turned into
Holidays, and can the trend be reversed?
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Response 46 of 149: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Wed, Dec 17, 1997 (09:51) * 2 lines
It's my understanding that the etymology of the word was fairly innocent but as the church lost 'control' of the people the celebrations became more 'fun' than reverent.
Being rather 'un-fond' of any of the organized religion I have been exposed to, I really don't mind the commercialization on a spiritual level.
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Response 47 of 149: Americ Azevedo (americ) * Wed, Dec 17, 1997 (10:57) * 16 lines
I think that one of the biggest problems with "organizied religion"
is that it becomes ritual without spirit.
Nothing as odd as being in a group trying to have fun and celebration
of the birth and/or resurrection of the Savior.
You know, you just can't feel good on que.
Every year, at Easter, I go with my oldest daughter to Grace Cathedial in San Francisco.
It is a wonderful and beautiful place.
The Bishop for Nothern California presides. He brings in a jazz band and
trys to get people to swing.
Well, I tell you, most people still just want to be stiff in the pews.
To shout and swing and dance at the end --
because the Savior has been resurrected
seems to be alien to a group that is more interested in
looking good than feeling good.
But it is still at lot of fun!
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Response 48 of 149: Steven Garrett (Estaben) * Wed, Dec 17, 1997 (13:05) * 3 lines
For me, heart felt fun is always closer to god than reverence, ritual, or any of the old paradigms.
Seems to me, religion of the suffering kind has been a study in contrast/seperation.
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Response 49 of 149: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Wed, Dec 17, 1997 (18:06) * 1 lines
amen.
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Response 50 of 149: nick a'hannay (pmnh) * Wed, Dec 17, 1997 (18:09) * 1 lines
religion is too deeply a personal matter to be "organized"... a kind of communion is the very best one can hope for, but even that is a crap shoot... to invest one's spiritual well-being into the collective behaviors of human beings is to invite disillusion (at the least)...
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Response 51 of 149: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Wed, Dec 17, 1997 (18:24) * 1 lines
amen.
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Response 52 of 149: nick a'hannay (pmnh) * Wed, Dec 17, 1997 (18:32) * 2 lines
unless, of course, one is presbytarian
(like me)
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Response 53 of 149: nick a'hannay (pmnh) * Wed, Dec 17, 1997 (18:33) * 1 lines
just kidding
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Response 54 of 149: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Wed, Dec 17, 1997 (18:33) * 1 lines
*chuckle*
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Response 55 of 149: Americ Azevedo (americ) * Thu, Dec 18, 1997 (00:38) * 7 lines
I love you all. This is the sweatest group I have ever met.
And, to think this is *only* a meeting of spirits in cyberspace.
In a way, this cyberspace, soul to soul connection is a great
proof of the spiritual nature of human life.
(could the animals and trees also chime in here too?)
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Response 56 of 149: wer (KitchenManager) * Thu, Dec 18, 1997 (00:54) * 2 lines
The trees could if I spent
more time with them...
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Response 57 of 149: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Thu, Dec 18, 1997 (09:40) * 3 lines
what about the animals wer? you spend plenty o time with them!
Shall we dare to fathom a tree's phiolosophy on life, growth, death and (ahem) god?
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Response 58 of 149: wer (KitchenManager) * Thu, Dec 18, 1997 (10:13) * 2 lines
Not talking to them I don't. No fathoming, I coulda
just asked one a long time ago now, it seems.
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Response 59 of 149: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Thu, Dec 18, 1997 (10:20) * 4 lines
Oh man... the animals part gots all kinds a strange pics going!
I had a favorite tree when I was about seven or eight. It was in the far back reaches of the school playground and it gave pecans every year. I talked to it now and again.
As I recall it just listened. Maybe because I never asked it anything substantial except, "how are you feeling today, Nutty?"
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Response 60 of 149: wer (KitchenManager) * Thu, Dec 18, 1997 (10:23) * 2 lines
Could be...sometimes our questions are more
important than our responses...
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Response 61 of 149: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Thu, Dec 18, 1997 (10:24) * 1 lines
yes
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Response 62 of 149: Sinfear (Sinfear) * Fri, Jan 2, 1998 (08:45) * 4 lines
I think a tree would scoff at the questions, for the tree is part of the
answer, part of the cyclic nature to life, as we are to ask another.
Perhaps if we just looked and wondered at the trees life there would be its
answer? Or perhaps my studies on post modernism is clouding the issue?
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Response 63 of 149: wer (KitchenManager) * Fri, Jan 2, 1998 (09:51) * 3 lines
Could be, but what if the tree spoke while you
stood still, looking and wondering? Could you
accept that answer, as well?
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Response 64 of 149: Sinfear (Sinfear) * Fri, Jan 2, 1998 (10:44) * 2 lines
No I would go and get some pyschological help, (smile) or perhaps get off
the LSD. Could you?
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Response 65 of 149: wer (KitchenManager) * Fri, Jan 2, 1998 (10:47) * 4 lines
Could and have, Sinfear. It's hard to describe
because it's in the range of empathy. Can't say
I haven't (or sometimes don't need) needed the
pro help, though...
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Response 66 of 149: Sinfear (Sinfear) * Fri, Jan 2, 1998 (11:01) * 2 lines
Interesting, empathy, do mean with out verbal words though? So a feeling
rather then intellectual knowing?
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Response 67 of 149: wer (KitchenManager) * Fri, Jan 2, 1998 (12:04) * 1 lines
Depends on your definitions I guess...
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Response 68 of 149: Sinfear (Sinfear) * Fri, Jan 2, 1998 (12:17) * 1 lines
I think I am asking for your definition...
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Response 69 of 149: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Wed, May 6, 1998 (19:31) * 16 lines
Speaking of Americ, I read this by him today:
the CyberCampus ( http://cybercampus.ggu.edu ) is the kind of
thing you are talking about. We will have over 40 online courses
during the Fall with 1000 to 1500 students. Many of these are part of
complete cerificate programs and we expect full degees beyond the
Master's in Public Administration soon. Check out the site.
I have staff, faculty, the whole thing. It took over three years of
alpha/beta testing to develop a very simple model that takes hardly any
support.
Please feel free to write me at mailto:americ@well.com or call me at
(510)465-6088 for a direct conversation. Writing is not always my best
mode of communication.
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Response 70 of 149: Riette Walton (riette) * Fri, Jul 3, 1998 (04:08) * 2 lines
To Wer intellectual knowing is many, many different things.
To Wer feelings are what matters.
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Response 71 of 149: necessary evil... (KitchenManager) * Fri, Jul 3, 1998 (10:00) * 1 lines
I'll get back to this...can't think at the moment...
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Response 72 of 149: Riette Walton (riette) * Fri, Jul 3, 1998 (17:15) * 1 lines
See? That's exactly what I mean . . .
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Response 73 of 149: necessary evil... (KitchenManager) * Sat, Jul 4, 1998 (00:51) * 3 lines
explain please
(and this time, with feeling)
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Response 74 of 149: Riette Walton (riette) * Sat, Jul 4, 1998 (01:39) * 5 lines
Okay, my sweety-honey-baby-muffin-pretty-pie(let).
But how can I possibly explain the phenomenon of a man who prefers to put sweetness and feeling before cold, cruel intellect? It is beyond me.
Must I carry on?
(that's what I meant by it)
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Response 75 of 149: Americ Azevedo (americ) * Sat, Aug 15, 1998 (00:43) * 7 lines
my philosophy
includes the idea of
eternal return.
I am back!
It is nice to see things
as they are.
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Response 76 of 149: Riette Walton (riette) * Sat, Aug 15, 1998 (02:21) * 1 lines
Americ!!!!! What a wonderful surprise!!! Where have you been, what have you been up to?!?!?!?! And I never even got to know you properly. WELCOME BACK.
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Response 77 of 149: God's own Satanist (KitchenManager) * Sat, Aug 15, 1998 (11:41) * 1 lines
Glad to see you back, Americ!
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Response 78 of 149: Riette Walton (riette) * Sat, Aug 15, 1998 (12:53) * 3 lines
Wer, it's a good thing you call yourself that, and not
Satan's own Goddess.
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Response 79 of 149: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sat, Aug 15, 1998 (22:09) * 4 lines
You did good, Americ by starting this conference.
See what you've wrought?
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Response 80 of 149: Riette Walton (riette) * Sun, Aug 16, 1998 (00:26) * 1 lines
Hi, Terry! How's the tool?
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Response 81 of 149: Riette Walton (riette) * Sun, Aug 16, 1998 (00:27) * 1 lines
And: HA-HA!!!!
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Response 82 of 149: Americ Azevedo (americ) * Thu, Aug 20, 1998 (13:16) * 11 lines
Terry....he brought me back.
I have been very pre-occuppied putting together the CyberCampus
http://cybercampus.ggu.edu
Looks like we make hit as hight as 1500 students online this Fall!
This will be the beginning of our second fall.
Last fall we began with about 150 students.
It has been a growing experience.
We have even been getting major media coverage.
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Response 83 of 149: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Thu, Aug 20, 1998 (13:58) * 2 lines
What software are you using to pull all this together, Americ?
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Response 84 of 149: Riette Walton (riette) * Thu, Aug 20, 1998 (15:22) * 1 lines
Wow!!! That's quite incredible.
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Response 85 of 149: Americ Azevedo (americ) * Thu, Aug 20, 1998 (23:00) * 11 lines
We are using a fabulous group of people.
One great we page designer (Mark) did the font door.
Two course designers
One help desk person -- not too much support.
Three people to administor registration, proctored exams, and marketing.
The software for the discussions is WELL Engaged (www.wellengaged.com).
We are working on creating a ColdFusion database in the background to provide the instructors with templates for writing their own syllabus and moduls.
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Response 86 of 149: Americ Azevedo (americ) * Thu, Aug 20, 1998 (23:06) * 2 lines
above it is http://www.wellengaged.com
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Response 87 of 149: Riette Walton (riette) * Fri, Aug 21, 1998 (00:57) * 1 lines
So, you're a scientist then, like Ray?
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Response 88 of 149: Ray Lopez (ratthing) * Fri, Aug 21, 1998 (09:18) * 2 lines
i think americ is a philosopher, no?
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Response 89 of 149: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Fri, Aug 21, 1998 (09:40) * 3 lines
What is the potential for doing this at a State University, like the
University of Texas. Should we approach them with the idea of doing this
locally in Austin?
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Response 90 of 149: Americ Azevedo (americ) * Fri, Aug 21, 1998 (12:09) * 14 lines
I tend of myself as a philosopher-scientist-businessperson.
Life is a series of experiments.
You try things. You are always getting feedback.
Sometimes it is what we expected; sometimes it is not what we expected.
But, always, there is feedback.
I believe that the University of Texas had bought a "virtual campus" system from UOL Publishing (http://www.uol.com). They are somewhat expensive. But well designed web interfaces.
What I focus on is dialogue. That is why the CyberCampus has been moving so fast. I am beginning to get schools that are interested in using the CyberCampus itself to put up the courses -- a major part of which is getting the faculty to understand tha value of doing online dialogue.
I ported The WELL discussion culture into online education.
Folks, here, at The Spring are part of this same tradition.
Terry -- you should check out the people at UofT, Austin and see what is up there. There may be a way for all of us to work together.
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Response 91 of 149: Americ Azevedo (americ) * Fri, Aug 21, 1998 (12:13) * 3 lines
Fix on UOL Publishing:
http://www.uol.com
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Response 92 of 149: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Fri, Aug 21, 1998 (12:14) * 2 lines
I'll put the feelers out.
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Response 93 of 149: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Fri, Aug 21, 1998 (17:00) * 2 lines
Hi Americ! Great to see you again!
Congrats on all the success!
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Response 94 of 149: Americ Azevedo (americ) * Sat, Aug 22, 1998 (00:02) * 7 lines
Thank you! all
for the warm reception.
Terry -- I have never stopped in Texas.
Did pass through on AmTrack many years ago.
I remember, that it seemed very big.....
the train went on forever.
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Response 95 of 149: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sat, Aug 22, 1998 (19:31) * 4 lines
I don't see much need to get out past the Austin area very much, it's a
pretty complete cultural scene here in Austin. Occasional trips to my
dads in East Texas and to Houston and Dallas, but not very often. It is
a *long* ways across Texas.
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Response 96 of 149: Ray Lopez (ratthing) * Sat, Aug 22, 1998 (23:14) * 3 lines
you need to come visit us here in san antonio, terry. a mere hour
drive away!
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Response 97 of 149: Riette Walton (riette) * Sun, Aug 23, 1998 (00:31) * 1 lines
Is San Antonio also in Texas then? And you're a mexican texican, Ray??? May I (maybe with my sister) come and visit you next year when I go to the spring party?
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Response 98 of 149: Ray Lopez (ratthing) * Sun, Aug 23, 1998 (15:46) * 3 lines
but of course! SA and Austin are neighbors and it would be a shame
for you to not see beautiful san antonio if you are so close!
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Response 99 of 149: Wolf (wolf) * Sun, Aug 23, 1998 (16:34) * 2 lines
i like visiting san antonio. in fact, i'll be there in january sometime for a
month long class. when is the big spring party?
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Response 100 of 149: Americ Azevedo (americ) * Sun, Aug 23, 1998 (22:37) * 3 lines
Big Spring Party.
Please explain.
Is this like the monthly WELL parties?
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Response 101 of 149: Riette Walton (riette) * Mon, Aug 24, 1998 (00:39) * 1 lines
Terry just said there would be a big spring party to mark the beginning of spring next year - and Mike and I (wonder where/how he is) have decided to go together.
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Response 102 of 149: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Mon, Aug 24, 1998 (10:18) * 3 lines
We have one every year, about 80 or so folks show up.
This year should be even bigger.
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Response 103 of 149: Autumn Moore (autumn) * Mon, Aug 24, 1998 (21:07) * 1 lines
Yeah, looks like you can plan on around 82. :-)
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Response 104 of 149: Riette Walton (riette) * Tue, Aug 25, 1998 (00:52) * 1 lines
You coming, Autumn???? That would be great! I wish ALL of us would come - we'd have a ball!
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Response 105 of 149: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Tue, Aug 25, 1998 (01:17) * 6 lines
That would be very fine, indeed.
I visited with Jonathon tonight, who I build and maintain the
Childrenstory and tvpc websites for, and he, Mary and son William are
headed off to England for a couple of weeks. Lucky him!
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Response 106 of 149: Riette Walton (riette) * Tue, Aug 25, 1998 (01:24) * 1 lines
Not with the weather we (and they've) been having! Still envy him, though.
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Response 107 of 149: Americ Azevedo (americ) * Tue, Aug 25, 1998 (20:56) * 2 lines
So what is the whether like out there in the Spring?
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Response 108 of 149: God's own Satanist (KitchenManager) * Tue, Aug 25, 1998 (22:48) * 1 lines
oh so hot and humid!!!!!
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Response 109 of 149: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Tue, Aug 25, 1998 (23:39) * 2 lines
It's cooling down to the nineties these days. We had a month of hundreds!
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Response 110 of 149: Riette Walton (riette) * Wed, Aug 26, 1998 (00:52) * 1 lines
The satanist is back!!! Where have you been, muffin?
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Response 111 of 149: God's own Satanist (KitchenManager) * Wed, Aug 26, 1998 (10:46) * 3 lines
dazed and confused?
(actually closer to stressed and confused)
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Response 112 of 149: Riette Walton (riette) * Wed, Aug 26, 1998 (11:25) * 1 lines
Under a lot of pressure at work? Why confused?
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Response 113 of 149: God's own Satanist (KitchenManager) * Wed, Aug 26, 1998 (11:43) * 2 lines
yes
auto-head games
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Response 114 of 149: Riette Walton (riette) * Wed, Aug 26, 1998 (11:47) * 1 lines
how do those go?
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Response 115 of 149: God's own Satanist (KitchenManager) * Wed, Aug 26, 1998 (11:50) * 1 lines
usually, downhill...
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Response 116 of 149: Riette Walton (riette) * Wed, Aug 26, 1998 (13:22) * 1 lines
Not good. Anything you can do about it?
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Response 117 of 149: God's own Satanist (KitchenManager) * Wed, Aug 26, 1998 (13:26) * 1 lines
lobotomy?
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Response 118 of 149: Riette Walton (riette) * Wed, Aug 26, 1998 (13:53) * 1 lines
No. But you could talk to us if you felt like it. I don't make much of a shrink, but I do care - and many of the others DO make good shrinks. ANd the best thing: you don't have to pay them for listening!
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Response 119 of 149: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Wed, Aug 26, 1998 (14:33) * 2 lines
I shall MAKE him pay...
(oops! wrong conference, get up off of your hands and knees WER, here lemme dust you off!)
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Response 120 of 149: Riette Walton (riette) * Thu, Aug 27, 1998 (01:03) * 1 lines
How did you want to make him pay? You wanted to beat him to death with a lock of hair? He should be so lucky!
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Response 121 of 149: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Thu, Aug 27, 1998 (11:05) * 1 lines
into submission...
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Response 122 of 149: Riette Walton (riette) * Thu, Aug 27, 1998 (11:11) * 1 lines
Doubt if it will take even that!
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Response 123 of 149: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Thu, Aug 27, 1998 (11:18) * 1 lines
I wonder what he'd think if the two of us started whacking him with locks of hair!??!
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Response 124 of 149: Leplep le Plep (jgross) * Thu, Aug 27, 1998 (23:45) * 5 lines
If Americ would only join in on it with a few of his own locks,
well, I say turn it into a musical.
I'm already lookin' at from the couch, in a theater....enthralled....
the applause from all around me is practically deafening.
How did I get so lucky to even obtain a ticket to this Broadway show....?
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Response 125 of 149: Americ Azevedo (americ) * Fri, Aug 28, 1998 (00:19) * 7 lines
...there's no business
like show business...
and show business is
no business at all!...
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Response 126 of 149: Americ Azevedo (americ) * Fri, Aug 28, 1998 (00:20) * 8 lines
Just picked up at tape of
Alan Watts' old 60's radio shows,
called "Zen and the Beat Way".
Really cool stuff.
Might want to check out
http://www.alanwatts.com
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Response 127 of 149: (sprin5) * Thu, Jul 13, 2000 (05:59) * 1 lines
Cool stuff, Americ!
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Response 128 of 149: Americ Azevedo (americ) * Thu, Jul 13, 2000 (09:28) * 3 lines
It really is cool.
Life is better when we are aware
of who we really are.
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Response 129 of 149: Marcia (MarciaH) * Thu, Jul 13, 2000 (12:34) * 1 lines
Got that right. Took me a while, though. We have pretenses for others and we hope they suffice. I like being me much better. I am far better at it anyway!
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Response 130 of 149: Americ Azevedo (americ) * Fri, Jul 14, 2000 (11:32) * 11 lines
To be ourselves,
to know that we are, exit
this moment
now.
Is the greatest gift.
I honor you
here
now
as you are.
It does seem to take constand rememberance.
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Response 131 of 149: Marcia (MarciaH) * Fri, Jul 14, 2000 (12:47) * 2 lines
Yes, constant remembrance is most necessary, lest we lapse back into who we wish others to think we are. I honor you for the insightful honest man you are.
At all times, as far as I can tell. Your philosophy has much to recommend it!
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Response 132 of 149: Maggie (sociolingo) * Sat, Jul 15, 2000 (04:10) * 7 lines
To know that we ARE lapsing back into not being ourselves but being a mirror of who we think others want us to be, we must first KNOW ourselves. This is a perennial quest perhaps, and one that we never complete, because we ourselves are constantly evolving and growing.
Who am I?? A fundemantal human question, and one that certain personality types can become almost obssesed with. The challenge is to balance the quest for knowing ourselves with actually living ... 'having a life' as my kids say.
Self-awareness can be scarey. As soon as we STOP and look internally, we often don't like what we see. Much of our perception of 'self' is fed by the reflected perceptions that others give us. These perceptions can be distorted, as in a a fairground 'funny' mirror, but have great influence in our lives when they come from significant people.
Sorry, lots of thoughts sparked off - I'll stop before I bore everyone.
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Response 133 of 149: Americ Azevedo (americ) * Sat, Jul 15, 2000 (11:54) * 16 lines
Not at all Maggie!
When we first look inside
we see mostly memories, fears of the future and past,
and impressions of what others want us to be due to their
memories and fears.
What we really are
may be none of that.
All these memories, etc. a
are contained in the larger framework
of pure light of awareness itself.
Awareness/existence itself...a sense of just being....
if pure. There is a freedom and openness from this
perspective that is quite charming.
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Response 134 of 149: Marcia (MarciaH) * Sat, Jul 15, 2000 (14:56) * 1 lines
Your charming perspective comes with age and accomplishment and hard-won self confidence...at least, in my case. It is a serene feeling where few of the fears we dealt with in younger years are put aside. I rather like it.
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Response 135 of 149: Marcia (MarciaH) * Sat, Jul 15, 2000 (15:23) * 1 lines
Reading through this entire topic has given me pangs of loss (William. Jim and Ree) and more insight into the man whose topic this is. Whatever happened to your teaching, Americ? Publishing? I do know you are working on a book. Is it your first (or do I need to read back through this again?!)
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Response 136 of 149: Americ Azevedo (americ) * Sat, Jul 15, 2000 (23:01) * 6 lines
I have not published a "real" book. But, I have at several points in my life written newspaper columns for small papers and magazines. None of that is happening at this time. I have been locked up in the world of computer technology most of this time. Having become an expert in the field of e-learning (or online education & training, to be exact). But, suddenly, I have this urge to teach philosophy and wisdom -- I cannot explain why. Just seems to want to happen.
I did publish on the web a few of my writings at:
The Eye of the Paradox. Much of it actually written about 8 years ago. So I now feel like I have gone beyond some of it.
You must be a writer yourself. ???? Certainly, you are very present in this medium with me.
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Response 137 of 149: Marcia (MarciaH) * Sat, Jul 15, 2000 (23:25) * 1 lines
Most of Geo was written by me in one way or another. I graduated from college with a double degree in Journalism and earth sciences so I could pursue a technical writing career. I married and did research for my then husband who was a college professor. So, I am a researcher, tech writer and I do some editing when called upon. Thanks for the hot link to your past writings. I will take their age into account. I am delighed someone who converses is back amongst us. it is a lonely business posting monologues day after day - or worse, cuting and pasting boring stuff.
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Response 138 of 149: Marcia (MarciaH) * Sat, Jul 15, 2000 (23:27) * 1 lines
Let me know where you are teaching and I will sit at your feet and learn. I am delighted to find you are so willing to share your thoughts with us again. Where do I sign up?!
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Response 139 of 149: Marcia (MarciaH) * Sat, Jul 15, 2000 (23:52) * 1 lines
I wish your father had brought you to Hawaii. A large percentage of our population is of Portuguese descent - mostly from Madeira. They hired on as sugar cane workers and other labor, but you would not have felt as odd here. There are still local festivals honoring those immigrants and their descendants, and we eat a lot of food created by these warm and friendly people. I understand about your oddness. I can see it here in new Southeast Asians entering the United States through the State of Hawaii. Aloha!
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Response 140 of 149: Americ Azevedo (americ) * Sun, Jul 16, 2000 (09:50) * 5 lines
I developed the architecture for Golden Gate University's CyberCampus. These days, I continue to teach a course on "Internet Marketing Through Virtual Communities" in that online program.
Meanwhile, I am teaching this summer a course (at Dominican University of California) face-to-face on "Eastern Philosophy and Religion" which I really enjoy so much now. In the Fall, I will teach (also at Dominican) a course on "Introduction to the e-World".
So which island are you on?
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Response 141 of 149: Marcia (MarciaH) * Sun, Jul 16, 2000 (13:13) * 5 lines
The Big Island of Hawaii where Kilauea Volcano is erupting gently and steadily.
I perused your CV last night and came away very impressed with your accomplishments. Some day I will ask you how/why you learned Sanskrit...
Nothing like teaching to a live audience. I've done both and feedback is what it is all about! Next week I will be close to you visiting my son but with little time to check out much besides Geology. He is a geologist and knows his Mom's preference to head away from human creation and head for God's.
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Response 142 of 149: Americ Azevedo (americ) * Mon, Jul 17, 2000 (22:12) * 7 lines
God's creation; human's creation.
These days they are starting to seem the same.
We are God's creation; and our power to create is also God's creation.
It does take a lot of love to appreciate the difficult learning
path we are on as creators, however.
I have four children by blood; one by step-hood; three grandchildren; and a godson. They are all a blessing. So much to learn from them all.
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Response 143 of 149: Marcia (MarciaH) * Mon, Jul 17, 2000 (23:25) * 1 lines
Children are the little wise beings into whose life we intrude. The bring us love and life boundlessly; curiousity and elan in equal measure. From their presence we learn humility, pride in its purest form, joy, pleasure of simple things, and so many other excellent qualities. With wisdom and patience we learn not to make them conform to our strictures, but to loosen ours to allow us to learn once again what it is to be truly free. I have one son. He is the best thing I ever did in my life and he has been a source of greatness in me if there is any.
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Response 144 of 149: Americ Azevedo (americ) * Sat, Jul 22, 2000 (12:58) * 8 lines
In Zen Mind, Beginner's Mind
I hear that we must go from:
Enlightenment to Practice to Thinking
in that order.
That way our thinking will be in alignment with our practice
and our practice with our enlightenment.
But, if you the other way, staring with thinking, you will
never get to enlightenment.
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Response 145 of 149: Maggie (sociolingo) * Sat, Jul 22, 2000 (16:10) * 1 lines
Mmm, maybe that's where I am going wrong with my thesis - too much thinking and too little enlightenment. *grin* (sorry it's late, and I'm feeling kinda kooky)
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Response 146 of 149: Marcia (MarciaH) * Sat, Jul 22, 2000 (19:16) * 1 lines
Tomorrow we head for the High Sierra and the Giant Sequoia. There I shall find enlightenment. Aloha, Americ!
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Response 147 of 149: Americ Azevedo (americ) * Sun, Sep 3, 2000 (11:08) * 1 lines
So....are you back now!
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Response 148 of 149: Marcia (MarciaH) * Sun, Sep 3, 2000 (16:09) * 1 lines
I am...and am remiss for not posting the pictures (or some thereof) yet. I am trying to justify my preference for the company of magestic stands of trees to humans. There must be a genetic anomoly in my ancestry. Trees, alas, do not return the hugs!
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Response 149 of 149: (sprin5) * Wed, Jan 17, 2001 (21:30) * 1 lines
How was your trip to the High Sierra and Giant Sequoia last July, Marci?
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