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Topic 22 of 102: Bio-mechanically speaking...

Tue, Feb 17, 1998 (18:56) | Mike Griggs (mikeg)
This topic is devoted to the mechanics of implementing on-line bios on the Spring.

20 responses total.

 Topic 22 of 102 [porch]: Bio-mechanically speaking...
 Response 1 of 20: Mike Griggs  (mikeg) * Tue, Feb 17, 1998 (18:59) * 8 lines 
 
OK, the bare-bones of the system are up and running, assuming I can get my homepage FTP server to let me log in.

However, the bio system is incredibly primitive at the moment. There are two things we need:

1) Integration into the Spring - perhaps replacing the mailto: link in the header of each post with a link to that person's bio?

2) An easy way for people to update their bios once online - CGI script writing
needed! I'm no CGI-guy, so we need to drag one in from somewhere!


 Topic 22 of 102 [porch]: Bio-mechanically speaking...
 Response 2 of 20: Wolf  (Wolf) * Tue, Feb 17, 1998 (20:11) * 2 lines 
 
#1 sounds good, since our email addresses will be posted as part of the bios,
right? what the heck is CGI? (I'm such a technical expert!)


 Topic 22 of 102 [porch]: Bio-mechanically speaking...
 Response 3 of 20: Mike Griggs  (mikeg) * Tue, Feb 17, 1998 (20:13) * 2 lines 
 
CGI is "Common Gateway Interface", commonly used on the web for little tasks like ours.



 Topic 22 of 102 [porch]: Bio-mechanically speaking...
 Response 4 of 20: Wolf  (Wolf) * Tue, Feb 17, 1998 (20:15) * 1 lines 
 
OK, that's over my head, did you see my hair blow in the wake?


 Topic 22 of 102 [porch]: Bio-mechanically speaking...
 Response 5 of 20: Wolf  (Wolf) * Tue, Feb 17, 1998 (20:16) * 1 lines 
 
Almost sounds like something you'd hear on Star Trek!! *laugh*


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 Response 6 of 20: Autumn Moore  (autumn) * Tue, Feb 17, 1998 (22:06) * 1 lines 
 
I saw it! Then it whooshed over my head and hopefully will land neatly in Terry's capable hands! :-)


 Topic 22 of 102 [porch]: Bio-mechanically speaking...
 Response 7 of 20: Wolf  (Wolf) * Tue, Feb 17, 1998 (22:44) * 1 lines 
 
LOL!!!


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 Response 8 of 20: wer  (KitchenManager) * Tue, Feb 17, 1998 (23:42) * 3 lines 
 
pseudo-technically, we use CGI everytime we
post something on here...it is the "almost
outdated" phrase for web interactiveness.


 Topic 22 of 102 [porch]: Bio-mechanically speaking...
 Response 9 of 20: Mike Griggs  (mikeg) * Wed, Feb 18, 1998 (16:02) * 2 lines 
 
indeed



 Topic 22 of 102 [porch]: Bio-mechanically speaking...
 Response 10 of 20: Mike Griggs  (mikeg) * Sat, Feb 21, 1998 (20:14) * 4 lines 
 
Right, I've been doing some investigating, and doing the whole bio-updating thing via CGI (yes, there it is again) is not at all hard. I could probably knock it up within a day, *if* I had access to the right software. Unfortunately, I don't, which is a bit of a problem, as you may imagine.

Any suggestions are welcome - if anyone knows of a free Perl compiler for Win95 I'd be very pleased to hear about it.



 Topic 22 of 102 [porch]: Bio-mechanically speaking...
 Response 11 of 20: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sat, Feb 21, 1998 (22:42) * 2 lines 
 
Check out http://www.scripts.com



 Topic 22 of 102 [porch]: Bio-mechanically speaking...
 Response 12 of 20: Mike Griggs  (mikeg) * Sun, Feb 22, 1998 (09:39) * 3 lines 
 
"Server does not have a DNS entry"

"


 Topic 22 of 102 [porch]: Bio-mechanically speaking...
 Response 13 of 20: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sun, Feb 22, 1998 (10:34) * 3 lines 
 
It's somewhere listed correctly in our web conference probably under
topic 2 - cool urls.



 Topic 22 of 102 [porch]: Bio-mechanically speaking...
 Response 14 of 20: Mike Griggs  (mikeg) * Mon, Feb 23, 1998 (20:53) * 7 lines 
 
Yeah, I found it but couldn't make too much sense. Seems they are running a separate script interpreter program (can't remember it's name right now) - are you running it at Spring, terry?

Also, it occurred to me that I/we/you/us/anyone could easily write the bio update in JavaScript - I could even borrow the source code from the WELL and convert it to our needs. I have always avoided JS in the past, since it requires a higher powered browser than many people perhaps have. Any stats available on who's using what for access? It would be easy to write in JS, that's for sure.

Finally, one thing that's just occurred to me is the need to integrate into shell accounts, too. This is somewhere I don't have much experience, but I guess you would have, terry. Comments/suggestions/points?




 Topic 22 of 102 [porch]: Bio-mechanically speaking...
 Response 15 of 20: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Tue, Feb 24, 1998 (00:10) * 2 lines 
 
Help is on the way. Check your email for a forwared message.



 Topic 22 of 102 [porch]: Bio-mechanically speaking...
 Response 16 of 20: wer  (KitchenManager) * Tue, Feb 24, 1998 (14:10) * 2 lines 
 
I can Java from work, but can't currently from home,
just so's you know, Mike...


 Topic 22 of 102 [porch]: Bio-mechanically speaking...
 Response 17 of 20: Mike Griggs  (mikeg) * Tue, Feb 24, 1998 (20:54) * 2 lines 
 
Java (as in compiled) or JavaScript? Two things have happened this evening. Firstly, terry has located someone who can help us with CGI, which is a better option that JS; secondly, I spoke to a chap who works for a web design company in Brighton, and he was talking about all of the problems they have had with their JS implementations. Basically, the JS plan is shelved, not that I really wanted to go with it in the first place.



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 Response 18 of 20: wer  (KitchenManager) * Tue, Feb 24, 1998 (23:16) * 2 lines 
 
none of them, from my house that is,
no Java, no JS, and no other version, translation, and/or adaptation...


 Topic 22 of 102 [porch]: Bio-mechanically speaking...
 Response 19 of 20: Mike Griggs  (mikeg) * Mon, Jul 13, 1998 (22:14) * 2 lines 
 
hehe...I'd still really like to get this up and running, because I think it's important. There would seem to be a tie-in between this sort of info, and the UNIX finger info. comments? terry, wer, anyone else techie listening in?



 Topic 22 of 102 [porch]: Bio-mechanically speaking...
 Response 20 of 20: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Tue, Jul 14, 1998 (14:04) * 3 lines 
 
Email jeffk@well.com,jeff@spring.net regarding this and see what he says
will be involved.


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