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Topic 33 of 102: Spring re-design

Sat, Jul 4, 1998 (20:03) | Mike Griggs (mikeg)
If we were to do a complete and utter overhaul of the Spring's layout, while keeping the Yapp software, what should we change?
340 responses total.

 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 1 of 340: wer  (KitchenManager) * Sat, Jul  4, 1998 (21:15) * 5 lines 
 
first, I guess, we would have to decide if we didn't like the current
design enough for us to change it, and second, I guess to a point it
doesn't matter as I can change my topics to look however I want...

So, does everyone want a re-design?


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 2 of 340: Mike Griggs  (mikeg) * Sat, Jul  4, 1998 (21:23) * 5 lines 
 
this is a hypothetical. but, from comments i've had from people "in the know" i.e. in the web trade (http://www.ntd.co.uk), i think it could do with a bit of work.

the interface can be a little clumsy at times, i find. also, it can be difficult to navigate through the topics that i read in particular conferences, without manually going through my conference list page every time. a catchup function would be nice, so that i can just catchup all the old responses in a topic at will.




 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 3 of 340: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sun, Jul  5, 1998 (07:16) * 8 lines 
 
It's fine with me, I just have limited time so if folks want more system
wide design power, it can be arranged. Myretta and Nan have system wide
design change power and there are directions for making system wide
changes at

http://www.armidalesoftware.com




 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 4 of 340: wer  (KitchenManager) * Sun, Jul  5, 1998 (09:52) * 1 lines 
 
I do, to, especially if I ask permission first...*wink*


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 5 of 340: wer  (KitchenManager) * Sun, Jul  5, 1998 (09:53) * 1 lines 
 
apparently I have typo power, as well...


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 6 of 340: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Mon, Jul  6, 1998 (15:39) * 2 lines 
 
power is good...
i personally like power-steering and powerpushing lawnmowers


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 7 of 340: Riette Walton  (riette) * Mon, Jul  6, 1998 (17:30) * 4 lines 
 
power is good . . .
I personally like power and . . . . power . . ., and then there's
power
of course.


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 8 of 340: wer  (KitchenManager) * Mon, Jul  6, 1998 (23:49) * 1 lines 
 
oh, of course...


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 9 of 340: Riette Walton  (riette) * Tue, Jul  7, 1998 (02:36) * 1 lines 
 
See? I knew you'd understand!


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 10 of 340: Mike Griggs  (mikeg) * Thu, Jul  9, 1998 (18:37) * 4 lines 
 
hheeee cool thing. i've created my own startup page for the spring, which lives here locally on my machine. it's got the main spring page in one frame, and my conference hotlist in a small top frame. that way, i can go to any conference i like without having to go through the main page every time. it works quite well, although it has the disadvantages associated with all frame sites (no bookmarking, url not filled in etc.).

but, i'm trying it out. if anyone else would like to try it out, then please let me know.



 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 11 of 340: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Fri, Jul 10, 1998 (07:02) * 3 lines 
 
If you like, you can email me the html and I can post it in a publicly
accessible area that you can reference. Or you could put it in
http://www.spring.net/~mikeg/startpage or something like that.


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 12 of 340: Mike Griggs  (mikeg) * Fri, Jul 10, 1998 (23:10) * 2 lines 
 
well. it has to be set up for each individual person at the moment; you need to cut and paste your own conf. list, until can find a way to access the one the spring produces. is that a cgi script that i can just call, or haven't you any idea?



 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 13 of 340: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Fri, Jul 10, 1998 (23:30) * 2 lines 
 
Pose this question to kaylene@armidalesoftware.com



 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 14 of 340: wer  (KitchenManager) * Sat, Jul 11, 1998 (00:55) * 7 lines 
 
if I wasn't at home, I'd go look...and I will find it on here by tomorrow,
Sunday at the latest...oops, I have it...printed out the template for Main
Menu the other day, so the code is

<pre>%'check'</pre>

that's what makes your conf list...


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 15 of 340: Mike Griggs  (mikeg) * Sat, Jul 11, 1998 (00:57) * 2 lines 
 
done. awaiting response.



 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 16 of 340: Mike Griggs  (mikeg) * Sat, Jul 11, 1998 (00:58) * 2 lines 
 
slippage



 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 17 of 340: Mike Griggs  (mikeg) * Sat, Jul 11, 1998 (00:59) * 1 lines 
 
oh yeah, what does the <pre> tag do?


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 18 of 340: wer  (KitchenManager) * Sat, Jul 11, 1998 (01:02) * 5 lines 
 
it's for preformatted...like ascii art or the concrete poetry topic...
it's how they get all the rows to line up all nice and neat...tomorrow
I'll look and see if 'check' is a template also, and will report back
in again...I think it probably is the more I think about it, and if so,
it'll have the info you're looking for...


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 19 of 340: Mike Griggs  (mikeg) * Sat, Jul 11, 1998 (01:04) * 2 lines 
 
where are these templates stored?



 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 20 of 340: Riette Walton  (riette) * Sat, Jul 11, 1998 (02:47) * 1 lines 
 
Holy $hit!


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 21 of 340: Riette Walton  (riette) * Sat, Jul 11, 1998 (02:47) * 2 lines 
 
Wholly $hit?
ha-ha!


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 22 of 340: Mike Griggs  (mikeg) * Sat, Jul 11, 1998 (13:11) * 1 lines 
 
how about a little text input box on the main conference page, so that one can jump instantly to any conference?


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 23 of 340: Riette Walton  (riette) * Sat, Jul 11, 1998 (13:41) * 1 lines 
 
I like that idea.


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 24 of 340: Wolf  (wolf) * Sat, Jul 11, 1998 (15:21) * 1 lines 
 
that sounds cool...


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 25 of 340: Mike Griggs  (mikeg) * Sat, Jul 11, 1998 (17:45) * 1 lines 
 
shouldn't be that hard to do, it's just a case of getting hold of the code which produces the main conference page, something which is beyond my knowledge. any ideas, wer?


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 26 of 340: Mike Griggs  (mikeg) * Sat, Jul 11, 1998 (18:46) * 1 lines 
 
by the way, who likes the standard backgroud, "chalk.jpg" ?


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 27 of 340: Wolf  (wolf) * Sat, Jul 11, 1998 (18:49) * 1 lines 
 
pick me, pick me......(i hate it, really)


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 28 of 340: Mike Griggs  (mikeg) * Sat, Jul 11, 1998 (18:54) * 2 lines 
 
:)



 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 29 of 340: Riette Walton  (riette) * Sat, Jul 11, 1998 (19:19) * 3 lines 
 
PPPLLLEEEUUUUGGGGHHH!!!
YUKSIES!
°sticking tongue out°


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 30 of 340: Mike Griggs  (mikeg) * Sat, Jul 11, 1998 (20:19) * 1 lines 
 
just one more "no", and i'll feel confident of being multilateral enough to suggest that we change it.


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 31 of 340: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sat, Jul 11, 1998 (20:29) * 1 lines 
 
How about just plain white?


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 32 of 340: Mike Griggs  (mikeg) * Sat, Jul 11, 1998 (21:25) * 5 lines 
 
well, i tried it in Babes, and to be honest, it doesn't look as good as i expected it to. it looks lovely in Engaged apps, but for some reason not here. i don't think the <hr> tag goes particularly well with plain white.

how about something plain, but with a distant "spring.net" in it? that's what i've tried out here, and the first results are OK. dunno if that's the best solution, though. try the white. see what it looks like. i'll try it here, too.




 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 33 of 340: Mike Griggs  (mikeg) * Sat, Jul 11, 1998 (21:35) * 7 lines 
 
two things.

firstly, the white looks nasty, imho. how about a light blue? i've dialed up #22ccdd here, and it looks quite nice - restrained, and compliments the darker blue links to confs etc.

secondly, can anyone supply me with a decent fixedwidth font? the standard one i have is courier, and it's bloody horrible. i'm now using typewriter something or other, which is better, but a bit spaceage and weird looking.




 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 34 of 340: Mike Griggs  (mikeg) * Sat, Jul 11, 1998 (21:39) * 2 lines 
 
i've found the code which produces the main page. or rather, the template. however, it's a bit CGI-ey and scarey, so adding the "shortcut" box may be a little difficult. or at least tricky.



 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 35 of 340: Mike Griggs  (mikeg) * Sat, Jul 11, 1998 (21:41) * 2 lines 
 
i think it's time i learnt perl...



 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 36 of 340: wer  (KitchenManager) * Sun, Jul 12, 1998 (00:04) * 5 lines 
 
the place up in Michigan uses the dialog box for conferences,
went and got their code today, just haven't had time to do
any experiments with it yet...let me find the cool font site,
and get the url to you Mike so you can picka one for yourself...
the light blue is fine by me...


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 37 of 340: Riette Walton  (riette) * Sun, Jul 12, 1998 (02:51) * 2 lines 
 
You guys are beginning to frighten me! Sounds like you speak some
secret language all the time.


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 38 of 340: Mike Griggs  (mikeg) * Sun, Jul 12, 1998 (10:32) * 1 lines 
 
hehe :))


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 39 of 340: Wolf  (wolf) * Sun, Jul 12, 1998 (11:33) * 1 lines 
 
wer, wouldja post that cool font site? puhleeeeeeze!


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 40 of 340: wer  (KitchenManager) * Mon, Jul 13, 1998 (01:20) * 5 lines 
 
this is a link page to tons o' font sites...

http://members.tripod.com/~service97/sf-font.html

happy hunting!


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 41 of 340: Myretta   (mrobens) * Mon, Jul 13, 1998 (08:23) * 5 lines 
 
Just thought I'd put in a couple of comments about colors and fonts on the web. Both of these are browser dependent so there are some real limititations to what you can do with them. The only fonts that will appear on a web page are the ones that are supported by your browser when you look at the options selection for fonts. And what is supported by your browser may not be supported by the rest of the people looking at the page. If you want to be sure everyone is seeing the same thing, it is best to l
ok for something that is universal (Times New Roman - boring but everyone has it - for example). The way to get around this is to put the font you want to use into a graphic (a .gif or .jpg) and then put the graphic on your page. Colors, too, vary from browser to browser. The colors which are consistent across all platforms can be found on the web. One such site is:
http://www2.jens.com/~selkirk/courses/toolbox/style/colors2.html

Hope you don't mind my butting in, but I thought a couple of tips might be helpful if you are just starting off.


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 42 of 340: Wolf  (wolf) * Mon, Jul 13, 1998 (19:08) * 1 lines 
 
no butting done here, thanks for the info!


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 43 of 340: Mike Griggs  (mikeg) * Mon, Jul 13, 1998 (20:47) * 2 lines 
 
the comment was made about non-proportional fonts, to be used locally, to replace my rather boring Courier used for the <PRE> info



 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 44 of 340: Wolf  (wolf) * Mon, Jul 13, 1998 (21:05) * 1 lines 
 
well, seems no matter what i do to the font front command, it stays the same (at my website)


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 45 of 340: Mike Griggs  (mikeg) * Mon, Jul 13, 1998 (21:19) * 4 lines 
 
let me know if I can help. the way to change the non-prop font globally is to use the Options in your browser (e.g. Netscape. Options menu/General Preferences/Fonts).

i can't remember how to change the non-prop font with an HTML tag, although I do remember it's possible. might be worth looking that one up (time I got myself a list of all the HTML tags and options, I think)



 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 46 of 340: Wolf  (wolf) * Mon, Jul 13, 1998 (21:43) * 3 lines 
 
well, while i've got you here *heehee* can you tell me what the code is to change
background color? i've tried the standard html code but it doesn't work here. am i
supposed to go into the rc file or what?


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 47 of 340: Mike Griggs  (mikeg) * Mon, Jul 13, 1998 (22:00) * 2 lines 
 
as a conference host? if you're a conference host, you need to edit the rc file - i think the additions needed are in "Creating a host help-pack", so look in there. if you mean in general, then you can't - it's fixed in the software until we can convince terry to change it for us :)



 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 48 of 340: Mike Griggs  (mikeg) * Mon, Jul 13, 1998 (22:26) * 6 lines 
 
hmmm...a thought. some people seem to have worked out the rather intricate URLs needed to link to another conference/topic/posting, while others haven't. how about something in the HTML interpreter commandy thing which allows easy linking to another conf/topic/posting? something like :

Well, if you look in [topic::23] you'll find the info, with [topic::23] being turned into an HTML link to that topic?

that one's probably better passed onto the YAPP people themselves, i guess.



 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 49 of 340: Wolf  (wolf) * Mon, Jul 13, 1998 (22:55) * 1 lines 
 
yeah, as a conference host. ok, i'll have to go look in there!


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 50 of 340: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Tue, Jul 14, 1998 (14:05) * 3 lines 
 
We need a conference manager! Anyone want to nominate someone or
volunteer. Does require some basic knowledge of Yapp and UNIX.



 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 51 of 340: Mike Griggs  (mikeg) * Tue, Jul 14, 1998 (14:19) * 1 lines 
 
ummm me? :-)))


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 52 of 340: Riette Walton  (riette) * Tue, Jul 14, 1998 (15:46) * 3 lines 
 
Okay, okay, no need to go through the embarassing asking business.
Sure I'll DO it, Terry.



 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 53 of 340: wer  (KitchenManager) * Tue, Jul 14, 1998 (18:08) * 1 lines 
 
sign me up, also, I guess...


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 54 of 340: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Tue, Jul 14, 1998 (18:18) * 3 lines 
 
We can have more than one. There will be a discussion of how this works
in email, at least, the technical details.



 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 55 of 340: Wolf  (wolf) * Tue, Jul 14, 1998 (20:16) * 1 lines 
 
before i answer, what is a conference manager?


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 56 of 340: Riette Walton  (riette) * Wed, Jul 15, 1998 (02:22) * 3 lines 
 
Hey, hey, I wasn't serious!!!! I know bugger-all about Yapp and that sort of
crap. Mike and Wer and Wolf coud be conference managers - I'll just
bust your screens.


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 57 of 340: Riette Walton  (riette) * Wed, Jul 15, 1998 (02:23) * 2 lines 
 
Wouldn't mind being conference manager though if I could be the one to
tell people to stop swearing . . .


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 58 of 340: wer  (KitchenManager) * Wed, Jul 15, 1998 (09:21) * 1 lines 
 
*lol*


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 59 of 340: Stacey Vura  (stacey) * Wed, Jul 15, 1998 (14:11) * 2 lines 
 
That's MY job...
*grin*


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 60 of 340: wer  (KitchenManager) * Wed, Jul 15, 1998 (14:20) * 2 lines 
 
I thought your job was...
*hopeful grin*


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 61 of 340: Riette Walton  (riette) * Wed, Jul 15, 1998 (15:26) * 1 lines 
 
Actually that's her game . . .


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 62 of 340: wer  (KitchenManager) * Thu, Jul 16, 1998 (00:46) * 4 lines 
 
Got it!
anyway, got your blue suggestion working in news, Mike,
so very body go by and see what you think...of course,
come back here and share those thoughts, por favor...


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 63 of 340: Mike Griggs  (mikeg) * Thu, Jul 16, 1998 (15:02) * 2 lines 
 
nice one :) i'll drop by.



 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 64 of 340: Mike Griggs  (mikeg) * Thu, Jul 16, 1998 (15:03) * 2 lines 
 
well, yeah, it's ok. what does everyone else think?



 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 65 of 340: Stacey Vura  (stacey) * Thu, Jul 16, 1998 (16:56) * 1 lines 
 
purty...


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 66 of 340: Mike Griggs  (mikeg) * Thu, Jul 16, 1998 (19:25) * 2 lines 
 
any chance of us getting the code over for both the frames and the "goto conference" shortcut box, wer? anyone else?



 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 67 of 340: wer  (KitchenManager) * Thu, Jul 16, 1998 (23:15) * 2 lines 
 
not sure...gotta ask Terry as I don't have
write permission...


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 68 of 340: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Fri, Jul 17, 1998 (06:38) * 6 lines 
 
Email jeff@spring.net. He's our system admin type guy. He was just here
earlier this evening. He can fix you up.

By the way, Jeff is building a Kick Butt new spring machine. Pentium,
64mb ram, 8 gb hard drive, etc. We're gonna test it for a spell before
we put it on line. But it could be our new conferencing, website box.


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 69 of 340: Riette Walton  (riette) * Fri, Jul 17, 1998 (11:32) * 1 lines 
 
Jeff must be a very, very clever man.


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 70 of 340: Jeff Kramer (jeff) * Fri, Jul 17, 1998 (18:08) * 1 lines 
 
I have no response to that...


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 71 of 340: wer  (KitchenManager) * Sat, Jul 18, 1998 (00:57) * 1 lines 
 
a dollar says you do...


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 72 of 340: Riette Walton  (riette) * Sat, Jul 18, 1998 (02:12) * 2 lines 
 
Let the man be modest if he wants to be modest, Wer.
Suppose your argument would now be that it is hard to be honest AND modest at the same time . . . !


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 73 of 340: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sat, Jul 18, 1998 (02:24) * 2 lines 
 
Jeff says the machine is up now and lookin' good so far. We're gonna
test it for a spell before we put anything critical on it.


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 74 of 340: Mike Griggs  (mikeg) * Sat, Jul 18, 1998 (05:15) * 1 lines 
 
sounds brill :)) I built my own p166 system here, so I know what "fun" that can be =)


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 75 of 340: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Mon, Jul 20, 1998 (11:05) * 1 lines 
 
First reports are that it's a stable machine, even running in a room w/o a/c.


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 76 of 340: Riette Walton  (riette) * Mon, Jul 20, 1998 (12:07) * 5 lines 
 
Oh, no!
w/o
a/c
????
Could you translate that into English please?


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 77 of 340: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Mon, Jul 20, 1998 (13:52) * 6 lines 
 
without air conditioning.

Something people around here can't seem to live without. Except maybe
Jeff and his machines.




 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 78 of 340: Riette Walton  (riette) * Mon, Jul 20, 1998 (14:10) * 2 lines 
 
oh
Will you grant me permission to ask one stupid question, please.


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 79 of 340: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Mon, Jul 20, 1998 (15:12) * 1 lines 
 
Permission granted, mademoiselle.


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 80 of 340: Riette Walton  (riette) * Mon, Jul 20, 1998 (15:52) * 1 lines 
 
Is the spring like an organization? Or a coöperation kind of thing with lots of people working there, where you are the big boss? And if so, does that make YOU the person who tells us to go away if we swear too much? Stacey said there was someone like that. Are you that person?


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 81 of 340: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Mon, Jul 20, 1998 (16:07) * 2 lines 
 
We're a loosely knit co-op and I pretty much supply everyting and keep it
running, I'm not very dictatorial though.


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 82 of 340: Mike Griggs  (mikeg) * Mon, Jul 20, 1998 (17:17) * 2 lines 
 
how is it all paid for, may i ask...?



 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 83 of 340: Ray Lopez (ratthing) * Mon, Jul 20, 1998 (17:58) * 5 lines 
 

i've always wanted to ask terry that myself.

i keep thinking that he'll go into a Brando/Godfather impersonation and
say, "Listen, don't ask me about my bizness."


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 84 of 340: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Mon, Jul 20, 1998 (18:07) * 6 lines 
 
I pay for it all, but hopefully we'll figure out a better model than
that! Suggestions??? Should we have a pledge drive? I could clearly
explain what it costs to run this place and we could try and raise some
funds that way. Or we could expand our web business with volunteer help
form our users.



 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 85 of 340: Mike Griggs (mikeg) * Mon, Jul 20, 1998 (18:10) * 1 lines 
 
i think we should have a pledge drive. if the spring were to offer mikeg@thespring.com as an e-mail address, i'd cancel my WELL account and pay $15 a month here.


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 86 of 340: Autumn Moore  (autumn) * Mon, Jul 20, 1998 (23:40) * 1 lines 
 
Or we could sell pizzas, candy bars and overpriced wrapping paper!


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 87 of 340: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Tue, Jul 21, 1998 (00:44) * 1 lines 
 
We already have hundreds of folks with email addresses here.


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 88 of 340: wer  (KitchenManager) * Tue, Jul 21, 1998 (01:20) * 1 lines 
 
yeah...if you've got a telnet account you have an e-mail address here, Mike...


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 89 of 340: Mike Griggs (mikeg) * Tue, Jul 21, 1998 (04:59) * 1 lines 
 
yeah, but mikeg@www.spring.net is not quite as cool as mikeg@well.com. know that spring.com has been sold, I guess the closest might be mikeg@thespring.com, which I'd pay $15 a month for :)


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 90 of 340: Riette Walton  (riette) * Tue, Jul 21, 1998 (06:51) * 3 lines 
 
I've got an idea how we can have fun and raise a bit of money for the spring as the spring people. There's going to be that big spring party next year, right? What if we all came a day or so in advance, have a huge cake baking, popcorn popping get together the first day. Sell these at a huge stall with lots of music and colourful ribbons and baloons, and at a 100% profit the next day and have the party on the third day! You know, like in school, but alot bigger! Popcorn put me through four years of s
udy at a conservatorium when I was in school, so it's the only practical idea I can come up with - sorry if it sounds childish.
And the rest of the time, why don't you just ask us for donations, Terry? I'd be willing to, because the spring is important.


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 91 of 340: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Tue, Jul 21, 1998 (07:31) * 8 lines 
 
Mike, you can use either mikeg@thespring.com or mikeg@spring.net, they
both work. For that matter, you're also mikeg@childrenstory.com and
mikeg@tvpc.com, and mikeg@babeoftheweek.com. Got it any other cool names
we can register. Hey, idea! Let's all brainstorm up some great names
that we can either develope into websites or sell to make some money to
keep the Spring going. I'll open a topic!




 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 92 of 340: Riette Walton  (riette) * Tue, Jul 21, 1998 (08:20) * 1 lines 
 
No, this is confusing! Remember, Autumn and me don't do the computer thing so well.


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 93 of 340: wer  (KitchenManager) * Tue, Jul 21, 1998 (09:37) * 1 lines 
 
but, you do it over the computer just fine...


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 94 of 340: Riette Walton  (riette) * Tue, Jul 21, 1998 (11:10) * 1 lines 
 
This part is pretty straight forward. It is when those secret CIA intelligence codes start popping up that our peas start popping around frantically.


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 95 of 340: wer  (KitchenManager) * Wed, Jul 22, 1998 (14:52) * 7 lines 
 
oooh...I hate it when my peas pop frantically...

so, Terry, if I wanted to "fix" the templates around here, I would just send
the "corrected" ones to Jeff and he'd put them in?

oh, and have you gotten any farther with the conference mangager thingy?



 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 96 of 340: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Wed, Jul 22, 1998 (15:47) * 2 lines 
 
Call me tonight and I'll set you up and explain to you how it works.



 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 97 of 340: wer  (KitchenManager) * Wed, Jul 22, 1998 (18:47) * 1 lines 
 
Got it...when is too late?


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 98 of 340: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Wed, Jul 22, 1998 (20:55) * 3 lines 
 
It's too early now, in a coupla' hours when I get back from dinner. You
see, Stacey made me hungry.



 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 99 of 340: wer  (KitchenManager) * Wed, Jul 22, 1998 (23:09) * 1 lines 
 
understand that! just got back from Hyde Park Bar & Grill...


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 100 of 340: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Thu, Jul 23, 1998 (10:24) * 1 lines 
 
Missed you last night, try again tonight.


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 101 of 340: wer  (KitchenManager) * Thu, Jul 23, 1998 (11:46) * 2 lines 
 
at work tonight...will call when I get home,
probably between 10:30 and 11...


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 102 of 340: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Thu, Jul 23, 1998 (12:48) * 2 lines 
 
Sounds good.



 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 103 of 340: Stacey Vura  (stacey) * Thu, Jul 23, 1998 (19:45) * 1 lines 
 
when I made ya hungry Paul... what were you craving?!?!


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 104 of 340: wer  (KitchenManager) * Fri, Jul 24, 1998 (00:05) * 1 lines 
 
probably something different than I was...


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 105 of 340: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Fri, Jul 24, 1998 (06:38) * 2 lines 
 
I wasn't even thinking about food till I read your post, then zoom, off
to the races.


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 106 of 340: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Fri, Jul 24, 1998 (06:38) * 1 lines 
 
perhaps our design should also contain food and sex to provide a clearer image of Spring inhabitants!


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 107 of 340: wer  (KitchenManager) * Fri, Jul 24, 1998 (06:38) * 1 lines 
 
WOO WOO!!!


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 108 of 340: Riette Walton  (riette) * Wed, Jul 29, 1998 (06:24) * 1 lines 
 
Hell, then I'll just do a spurting willy!!!


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 109 of 340: Riette Walton  (riette) * Wed, Jul 29, 1998 (06:25) * 1 lines 
 
AFter all, willies count as food too, right?


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 110 of 340: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Wed, Jul 29, 1998 (09:53) * 2 lines 
 
Remember the spermy looking logo we had for a while, a cross between a
noctural emission and an oil gusher?


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 111 of 340: wer  (KitchenManager) * Thu, Jul 30, 1998 (23:55) * 8 lines 
 
such intriguing images...

to get the text box conf link done, I've gotta rework the list template...
haven't gone to armidale to get it yet, and not sure if I can figure it
out myself, yet...

am starting work on template re-design, so if there is something else
that you all want, speak up...


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 112 of 340: Riette Walton  (riette) * Wed, Aug  5, 1998 (15:23) * 1 lines 
 
No, a willy will do just fine, thank you.


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 113 of 340: wer  (KitchenManager) * Tue, Sep  1, 1998 (08:59) * 2 lines 
 
There's a link to your spiffy new search page
on main now, Terry...


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 114 of 340: L.SMITH  (LADY) * Tue, Sep  1, 1998 (09:17) * 1 lines 
 
HELLO HOW SOES THIS WORK IS ANY ONE HERE?


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 115 of 340: L.SMITH  (LADY) * Tue, Sep  1, 1998 (09:18) * 2 lines 
 
SOME ONE (((((((((( HELP!! )))))))))))



 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 116 of 340: wer  (wer) * Tue, Sep  1, 1998 (09:20) * 8 lines 
 
Are you still here?

It's a bulletin boardish kinda thing.
Post a message, as above, and come
back at your earliest convenience and
see if anyone has responded...

Welcome! Hope you stay around here awhile...


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 117 of 340: L.SMITH  (LADY) * Tue, Sep  1, 1998 (09:26) * 2 lines 
 
IS SOME ONE HERE THIS IS SO WEIRD I HAVE NEVER SEEN ANY CAHT PLACE LIKE THIS ?
I thought this was live chat. THIS IS SOMETHING ELSE MAN!!!!!!


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 118 of 340: Ray Lopez (ratthing) * Tue, Sep  1, 1998 (09:41) * 9 lines 
 

hi lady! nope this aint live chat. this is asynchronous, bulletin
board style communication ala the WeLL. check out

http://www.spring.net

to learn more any maybe even http://www.well.com

hope to see you around some more!!


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 119 of 340: Wolf  (wolf) * Tue, Sep  1, 1998 (09:41) * 3 lines 
 
yes, lady, and do stop shouting (caps on)! sometimes a group of us are on-line at
the same time and that's cool! but it's fun to post something and then come back
later and see what happened next!


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 120 of 340: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Tue, Sep  1, 1998 (09:41) * 3 lines 
 
It is something else, Lady. Not chat for sure. Something more
intelligible and focused hopefully.



 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 121 of 340: Wolf  (wolf) * Tue, Sep  1, 1998 (21:49) * 2 lines 
 
even with our ramblings he finds us intelligent! well, hey, we're edgy and cooool!
i don't know who revamped this place but it looks good. very soothing to me...


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 122 of 340: wer  (KitchenManager) * Wed, Sep  2, 1998 (00:10) * 1 lines 
 
thanks...


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 123 of 340: Riette Walton  (riette) * Wed, Sep  2, 1998 (02:11) * 1 lines 
 
Mighty mighty good!!! Man!


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 124 of 340: Wolf  (wolf) * Wed, Sep  2, 1998 (11:28) * 2 lines 
 
if this kind of stuff comes out of your head, wer, then we have nothing at all
to fear. does ya needs to blab?


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 125 of 340: wer  (KitchenManager) * Wed, Sep  2, 1998 (11:44) * 3 lines 
 
actually, just changed the page to mirror
Terry's index and search pages...trying
for that continuity thang...


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 126 of 340: wer  (KitchenManager) * Wed, Sep  2, 1998 (11:46) * 3 lines 
 
and as to blabbing, no but thanks,
that's what I'm working on controlling
at the moment...


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 127 of 340: Wolf  (wolf) * Wed, Sep  2, 1998 (14:10) * 1 lines 
 
gotcha! well, the breaks are different, aren't they? doesn't matter, i like it anyway!


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 128 of 340: wer  (KitchenManager) * Thu, Sep  3, 1998 (01:52) * 3 lines 
 
so, do you all like the looks in here enough for me
to make it the new default for the Spring as a whole?
(at least for awhile, anyway...)


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 129 of 340: Riette Walton  (riette) * Thu, Sep  3, 1998 (02:41) * 3 lines 
 
It's great, but don't ya touch my conference!!!! I'll turn you into another kind of default with alot of stripes, and a very silly logo on those broad shoulder o' yours!

No I just find it sort of nice that all the conferences have identities of their own. Like, I can't imagine Genx without our lovable puppy! It just so suits that conference - I can't somehow get excited over the leaves (which look so great here!!) replacing our puppy!


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 130 of 340: Wolf  (wolf) * Thu, Sep  3, 1998 (09:14) * 2 lines 
 
how about making it the default for conferences that don't already have a
nice background?


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 131 of 340: wer  (KitchenManager) * Thu, Sep  3, 1998 (09:48) * 6 lines 
 
that's what I said...the default...
will show in all the conferences where
a lovable host hasn't messed with the
rc file, and will show on Main Menu...
speaking of, has anyone noticed the
Personalized for line?


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 132 of 340: Wolf  (wolf) * Thu, Sep  3, 1998 (10:10) * 2 lines 
 
yes i did, was that you? what's the scholar thingy? or should i just click and go
there?


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 133 of 340: wer  (KitchenManager) * Thu, Sep  3, 1998 (10:14) * 1 lines 
 
Click and go, Baby!


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 134 of 340: Riette Walton  (riette) * Thu, Sep  3, 1998 (12:16) * 3 lines 
 
Oh! I'm terribly sorry, Wer! I misunderstood!

WHERE is the personalized for line? Damn, my head is thick as a mud ball at the moment - just can't think straight.


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 135 of 340: wer  (KitchenManager) * Thu, Sep  3, 1998 (18:15) * 3 lines 
 
http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/main

right under the words Main Menu...


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 136 of 340: Riette Walton  (riette) * Fri, Sep  4, 1998 (04:45) * 1 lines 
 
Oh, I found it! You've got great moves, Wer!


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 137 of 340: Riette Walton  (riette) * Fri, Sep  4, 1998 (04:45) * 1 lines 
 
We should change the name of this topic to 'Spring re-vamp'!


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 138 of 340: wer  (KitchenManager) * Wed, Sep  9, 1998 (23:55) * 2 lines 
 
So, how "commercial" do you all mind this place looking?
What doesn't anyone want me to do?


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 139 of 340: Riette Walton  (riette) * Thu, Sep 10, 1998 (06:39) * 1 lines 
 
I so, go right over the top, Muffin!


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 140 of 340: Autumn Moore  (autumn) * Thu, Sep 10, 1998 (21:39) * 1 lines 
 
No tacky plastic crap. Anything else is OK!


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 141 of 340: Riette Walton  (riette) * Sat, Sep 12, 1998 (02:15) * 1 lines 
 
You mean and Edwardian feel would not delight the Moore heart?


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 142 of 340: wer  (wer) * Sat, Sep 12, 1998 (11:32) * 1 lines 
 
I thought Othellian feels lit the Moor heart...


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 143 of 340: Riette Walton  (riette) * Sun, Sep 13, 1998 (03:59) * 1 lines 
 
ha-ha!


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 144 of 340: Autumn Moore  (autumn) * Sun, Sep 13, 1998 (21:53) * 1 lines 
 
Now there's a real man! He can light my fire anyday...


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 145 of 340: Mike Griggs  (mikeg) * Fri, Sep 18, 1998 (06:35) * 1 lines 
 
The place is looking nice :)


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 146 of 340: wer  (KitchenManager) * Wed, Sep 23, 1998 (06:29) * 4 lines 
 
Thanks, Mike, still can't get some things to work, however...

Terry, got you options for the last 50, 100, 333, and 500 posts
in case you're not webbing in...


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 147 of 340: Autumn Moore  (autumn) * Wed, Sep 23, 1998 (17:49) * 1 lines 
 
333? What an intriguing number...how did you arrive at that, mike?


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 148 of 340: Mike Griggs  (mikeg) * Wed, Sep 23, 1998 (19:18) * 2 lines 
 
um i didn't - wer did :)



 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 149 of 340: Autumn Moore  (autumn) * Wed, Sep 23, 1998 (21:44) * 1 lines 
 
oops, I meant wer.


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 150 of 340: wer  (KitchenManager) * Thu, Sep 24, 1998 (10:03) * 3 lines 
 
um, Terry asked for the last 100 and last 500, so I figured
someone sometime might want something inbetween, so why not
333? I mean, it is a lot cooler than say 250 or plain old 300...


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 151 of 340: Autumn Moore  (autumn) * Fri, Sep 25, 1998 (13:47) * 1 lines 
 
Ah...curiosity satisfied! 333 is both edgy and cool, don'tcha think?


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 152 of 340: wer  (KitchenManager) * Fri, Sep 25, 1998 (13:53) * 1 lines 
 
exactly!


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 153 of 340: Riette Walton  (riette) * Sat, Sep 26, 1998 (01:44) * 1 lines 
 
You're sooooooo cool, Wer! Were you born that way, or moulded?


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 154 of 340: wer  (wer) * Sat, Jan  9, 1999 (01:40) * 1 lines 
 
yes...


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 155 of 340: wer  (KitchenManager) * Sun, Jan 17, 1999 (14:30) * 6 lines 
 
Working on a Link to Us page, with different banners and buttons
for people to use to link back to the Spring with...if anyone has
any banners for me to put up on said page, e-mail them to me at
rotazo@aol.com, or ftp'em to your favorite server and e-mail me
their urls...oh, and a for example



 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 156 of 340: Ray Lopez (ratthing) * Sun, Jan 17, 1999 (19:23) * 3 lines 
 

wer, i have a cheesy one i made for my website at http://www.ratthing.com



 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 157 of 340: wer  (KitchenManager) * Sun, Jan 17, 1999 (23:32) * 3 lines 
 
got it, Ray, see...




 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 158 of 340: Amy  (amy) * Mon, Jan 18, 1999 (09:08) * 1 lines 
 



 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 159 of 340: Ray Lopez (ratthing) * Mon, Jan 18, 1999 (10:52) * 3 lines 
 

i like that one a lot!



 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 160 of 340: wer  (KitchenManager) * Mon, Jan 18, 1999 (22:54) * 1 lines 
 
me, too! Thanks, Amy!


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 161 of 340: wer  (KitchenManager) * Wed, Jan 20, 1999 (18:51) * 5 lines 
 
rough draft of the link to us page is up at
http://www.spring.net/~cfadm/links/

peruse, use, and send me submissions!!!
and again, thanks Amy and Ray...


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 162 of 340: wer  (KitchenManager) * Wed, Jan 20, 1999 (18:52) * 1 lines 
 
oh, yeah, be patient as it takes a little while to load...


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 163 of 340: wer  (KitchenManager) * Wed, Jan 20, 1999 (18:52) * 5 lines 
 
rough draft of the link to us page is up at
http://www.spring.net/~cfadm/links/

peruse, use, and send me submissions!!!
and again, thanks Amy and Ray...


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 164 of 340: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Wed, Jan 20, 1999 (21:53) * 2 lines 
 
I like the one that says "... in a friendly atmosphere". Maybe one that
says "What do you want to talk about today?"


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 165 of 340: wer  (KitchenManager) * Wed, Jan 20, 1999 (22:53) * 1 lines 
 
gotcha, Boss!


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 166 of 340: Wolf  (wolf) * Wed, Feb  3, 1999 (17:09) * 1 lines 
 
i really liked the one on #158. but let me go back and check out the ones up at spring-links....


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 167 of 340: Wolf  (wolf) * Wed, Feb  3, 1999 (17:12) * 1 lines 
 
ok...i like 'em all....maybe we can just let the person choose a scheme to match their page or their liking? you guys did a good job!


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 168 of 340: wer  (KitchenManager) * Wed, Feb  3, 1999 (18:54) * 1 lines 
 
that was my thought...still need to make the "Watcha wanna talk 'bout?" one...


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 169 of 340: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Thu, Feb  4, 1999 (10:00) * 1 lines 
 
yep, yep!


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 170 of 340: wer  (KitchenManager) * Thu, Feb  4, 1999 (18:03) * 1 lines 
 
see!


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 171 of 340: wer  (KitchenManager) * Sat, Feb 27, 1999 (12:01) * 1 lines 
 
If we don't make some changes, the status quo will remain the same.


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 172 of 340: wer  (wer) * Tue, Mar 30, 1999 (01:19) * 4 lines 
 
hey...I want to put up the spring cam on main...do you all want a
snapshot of what is playing, or do you want me to make the whole
main menu refresh, and if so, how fast do you want it?
(my guess would be somewhere between 45 and 60 seconds...)


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 173 of 340: wer  (wer) * Tue, Mar 30, 1999 (01:21) * 4 lines 
 
still working on your banner, Terry...speaking of, do you
have any cool graphics programs I can use and/or Frontpage98?
(got a new, cool computer at home and can telnet and ftp and...
and everything!!! well, almost...)


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 174 of 340: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Tue, Mar 30, 1999 (11:25) * 3 lines 
 
Yep, I'll be glad to help you get set up. Let me know when to come by.
Or you can come by here and I'll get you what you need.



 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 175 of 340: wer  (KitchenManager) * Tue, Mar 30, 1999 (18:58) * 1 lines 
 
kil-ler


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 176 of 340: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Wed, Mar 31, 1999 (09:54) * 1 lines 
 
No problem. Give me a call!


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 177 of 340: wer  (KitchenManager) * Thu, Apr  1, 1999 (01:37) * 1 lines 
 
I will...as to when, ?


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 178 of 340: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Thu, Apr  1, 1999 (09:07) * 2 lines 
 
Anytime, this weekends good.



 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 179 of 340: wer  (KitchenManager) * Thu, Apr  1, 1999 (10:06) * 7 lines 
 
about the main index page where you want the last responses to go:
how does everyone feel about splash pages?
it's the easiest way to do it (frames would be next easiest)
as I have to write a template and script for the page
to include the last response thang...I'm also gonna put
the last response pages over in public for more universal
access...


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 180 of 340: Mike Griggs (mikeg) * Thu, Apr  1, 1999 (18:21) * 1 lines 
 
I achieved nothing, but in a very nice way....reminisced about depression and what it felt like...odd.


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 181 of 340: Wolf  (wolf) * Thu, Apr  1, 1999 (19:04) * 1 lines 
 
this place looks great! (hi mike)


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 182 of 340: wer  (KitchenManager) * Thu, Apr  1, 1999 (21:30) * 3 lines 
 
and I thought odd was what I felt like...

Hiya, Mike! Hiya, Wolf!


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 183 of 340: wer  (KitchenManager) * Fri, Apr  2, 1999 (02:01) * 3 lines 
 
as to a splash page...
what do you all think about
http://www.spring.net/~spew/ndex.html


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 184 of 340: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Fri, Apr  2, 1999 (09:13) * 5 lines 
 
It's good.

Now, if you could have those last 10 posts that folks could click on the
main page. Can you create a test page for this?



 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 185 of 340: wer  (KitchenManager) * Fri, Apr  2, 1999 (11:24) * 1 lines 
 
I think so...


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 186 of 340: wer  (KitchenManager) * Fri, Apr  2, 1999 (11:45) * 4 lines 
 
and for a second version of splash, see
http://www.spring.net/~spew/ndex2.html

(I like this one better...)


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 187 of 340: Mike Griggs (mikeg) * Sun, Apr  4, 1999 (15:06) * 1 lines 
 
i love ndex.html wer....not so sure about ndex2.html


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 188 of 340: wer  (KitchenManager) * Sun, Apr  4, 1999 (19:36) * 2 lines 
 
thank you, Mike
got a third version running around in my head, as well...


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 189 of 340: Wolf  (wolf) * Sat, Apr 17, 1999 (11:43) * 1 lines 
 
wer, i like em both! harder to read the second one, but the water goes well with the theme!


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 190 of 340: Mike Griggs (mikeg) * Mon, Apr 19, 1999 (19:17) * 1 lines 
 
I was thinking, I could write some Javascript that would allow us to "see" who was here via the web as well as via telnet. anyone fancy that?


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 191 of 340: Mike Griggs (mikeg) * Tue, Apr 20, 1999 (19:35) * 1 lines 
 
no comments?


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 192 of 340: wer  (KitchenManager) * Tue, Apr 20, 1999 (20:35) * 2 lines 
 
just now am seeing it...sure, if it don't crash stuff like,
oh say, Navigator 2.0...


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 193 of 340: Wolf  (wolf) * Tue, Apr 20, 1999 (20:48) * 1 lines 
 
i don't know what that mumbo jumbo means so i can't comment. oh, wait...huh?


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 194 of 340: Mike Griggs (mikeg) * Wed, Apr 21, 1999 (15:47) * 1 lines 
 
what version of javascript does netscape 2 have wer?


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 195 of 340: Autumn   (autumn) * Thu, Apr 22, 1999 (01:14) * 1 lines 
 
(*paranoid*) Are you guys making fun of me?! I'm so computer-illiterate I can't even tell!


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 196 of 340: wer  (KitchenManager) * Thu, Apr 22, 1999 (01:27) * 3 lines 
 
2 is before Java, I think, Mike...

Autumn, would I do that?


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 197 of 340: Autumn   (autumn) * Thu, Apr 22, 1999 (01:41) * 1 lines 
 
Methinks you would, with relish...


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 198 of 340: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Thu, Apr 22, 1999 (11:59) * 2 lines 
 
only briefly...
*grin*


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 199 of 340: wer  (KitchenManager) * Mon, Apr 26, 1999 (00:37) * 2 lines 
 
I was wrong, Mike, Navigator 2.0 was the first to support
Javascript...don't know the version, though...


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 200 of 340: Mike Griggs (mikeg) * Mon, Apr 26, 1999 (06:00) * 3 lines 
 
1.0, I would guess

I sent you email asking for create access in /usr/bbs/www - did you get it?


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 201 of 340: Wolf  (wolf) * Mon, Apr 26, 1999 (21:21) * 1 lines 
 
and look who got to be 200!


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 202 of 340: wer  (KitchenManager) * Tue, Apr 27, 1999 (02:08) * 2 lines 
 
yep...will send you the info later today (Tuesday)...
(haven't gone to sleep yet so my body thinks it is Monday still...)


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 203 of 340: Mike Griggs (mikeg) * Wed, Apr 28, 1999 (19:35) * 2 lines 
 

thanks for the write acces, wer. unfortunately i don't seem to be able to get the yapp interpreter thingy to do any pages correctly. for example, i have created a page "test" in /usr/bbs/www that is basically a copy of "userinfo", also in that directory. yet, they come out completely differently...i'm very confused :) any suggestions would be most helpful.


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 204 of 340: Mike Griggs (mikeg) * Wed, Apr 28, 1999 (20:59) * 1 lines 
 
aha...got it working in a rudimentary way. just got to add some bells and whistles and it'll be up anmd running!


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 205 of 340: Mike Griggs (mikeg) * Wed, Apr 28, 1999 (21:07) * 1 lines 
 
at the Armidalesoftware web site (http:/www.armidalesoftware.com) there are controls for "hide, edit, delete" on postings that you've made yourself. can we implement that here?


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 206 of 340: wer  (KitchenManager) * Thu, Apr 29, 1999 (00:08) * 2 lines 
 
maybe...I have trouble making some things work on here, too...
maybe I'll have more time to sort it all out when I'm unemployed...


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 207 of 340: wer  (KitchenManager) * Thu, May  6, 1999 (02:27) * 8 lines 
 
anyway...
Attention all hosts!!!
I would like to add the goto search bar to the main(browse) page
for each conference.
Does anyone have a problem with that?
(if so, I'll add it so that you can turn it off if you want to...
however, since it only generates 2 cents a use, it would be nice
to have it up and running in as many places as possible...)


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 208 of 340: Mike Griggs (mikeg) * Thu, May  6, 1999 (16:59) * 1 lines 
 
as long as it opens a new browser window - we don't want ppl straying from the Spring!!


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 209 of 340: Wolf  (wolf) * Thu, May  6, 1999 (17:13) * 1 lines 
 
let's do it!


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 210 of 340: wer  (KitchenManager) * Thu, May  6, 1999 (19:07) * 1 lines 
 
all of us stray, Mike...


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 211 of 340: Alexander Schuth  (aschuth) * Sun, May  9, 1999 (13:45) * 2 lines 
 
... but we live to regret it! NEW BROWSER WINDOW N O W !
(Hi Wer!)


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 212 of 340: wer  (KitchenManager) * Thu, May 20, 1999 (09:18) * 0 lines 
 


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 213 of 340: wer  (KitchenManager) * Thu, May 20, 1999 (09:21) * 0 lines 
 


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 214 of 340: wer  (KitchenManager) * Thu, May 20, 1999 (09:22) * 2 lines 
 
this topic is not playing nice today!!!
(gotta go to work now...will try again later...)


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 215 of 340: Alexander Schuth  (aschuth) * Thu, May 20, 1999 (09:56) * 1 lines 
 
"Go to Work" - ?


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 216 of 340: wer  (KitchenManager) * Thu, May 20, 1999 (13:19) * 0 lines 
 


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 217 of 340: wer  (KitchenManager) * Thu, May 20, 1999 (13:25) * 1 lines 
 
yep...I'm temping for a state agency...


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 218 of 340: wer (wer) * Thu, May 20, 1999 (13:31) * 247 lines 
 

Traffic


The Spring


From 04/12/1999 To 05/19/1999



















































































































































































































































Transaction Day Transaction Date Impressions Click Throughs Click to Impression %
Sunday 04/18/1999 5 2 40.000%
Monday 04/19/1999 65 3 4.615%
Tuesday 04/20/1999 59 3 5.085%
Wednesday 04/21/1999 59 0 .000%
Thursday 04/22/1999 117 16 13.675%
Friday 04/23/1999 65 10 15.385%
Saturday 04/24/1999 42 5 11.905%
Sunday 04/25/1999 56 1 1.786%
Monday 04/26/1999 51 0 .000%
Tuesday 04/27/1999 80 5 6.250%
Wednesday 04/28/1999 75 0 .000%
Thursday 04/29/1999 67 4 5.970%
Friday 04/30/1999 45 3 6.667%
Saturday 05/01/1999 50 2 4.000%
Sunday 05/02/1999 48 2 4.167%
Monday 05/03/1999 45 1 2.222%
Tuesday 05/04/1999 38 0 .000%
Wednesday 05/05/1999 38 0 .000%
Thursday 05/06/1999 44 0 .000%
Friday 05/07/1999 59 5 8.475%
Saturday 05/08/1999 37 1 2.703%
Sunday 05/09/1999 40 1 2.500%
Monday 05/10/1999 57 4 7.018%
Tuesday 05/11/1999 64 2 3.125%
Wednesday 05/12/1999 61 0 .000%
Thursday 05/13/1999 59 4 6.780%
Friday 05/14/1999 55 1 1.818%
Saturday 05/15/1999 36 1 2.778%
Sunday 05/16/1999 41 0 .000%
Monday 05/17/1999 55 1 1.818%
Tuesday 05/18/1999 61 0 .000%
Wednesday 05/19/1999 63 3 4.762%
Grand Totals 1,737 80 4.606%

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 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 219 of 340: wer  (KitchenManager) * Thu, May 20, 1999 (13:36) * 3 lines 
 
my apologies to everyone...I will edit out the white space when I get home...
I don't have ftp on my laptop at work, and forgot how to ftp through Internet
Explorer and have never really learned how to ftp over telnet yet...


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 220 of 340: Alexander Schuth  (aschuth) * Thu, May 20, 1999 (13:40) * 3 lines 
 
"A laptop at work" - my, Wer, that's looking good!

You sure about the "temping"? Might that not rather be "tempting"? What are you doing there?


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 221 of 340: wer  (KitchenManager) * Thu, May 20, 1999 (13:42) * 3 lines 
 
got a laptop and a docking station...even got a desk and half an office!!!

updating, proofreading, and editing their Intranet pages...


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 222 of 340: wer  (KitchenManager) * Thu, May 20, 1999 (13:47) * 2 lines 
 
speaking of work, thanks for lunch, Alexander, time for me to hit
the keyboard again...


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 223 of 340: Alexander Schuth  (aschuth) * Thu, May 20, 1999 (13:48) * 5 lines 
 
...a real IT job! Do they pay?

Wer, this is what I thought a while ago - everybody should throw money together to keep you off the streets (=make them safer, you know). So, if the state helps to combine the Texas citizens tax money to make Austin a better place, what can I say? All Power to that place's human resources dept.!

(How do you feel?)


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 224 of 340: Wolf  (wolf) * Thu, May 20, 1999 (14:19) * 1 lines 
 
wer with a laptop and not a wooden spoon.....hmmmm, well, do ya have any kitchen utensils hanging on the wall behind your desk? you know, so you can remember where you came from? *grin*


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 225 of 340: wer  (KitchenManager) * Thu, May 20, 1999 (15:59) * 6 lines 
 
I'm making a little more a week than I was cooking with all my evenings and
weekends free and about twenty hours a week less of work...I even wear nice
clothes to work now...

and no, Wolf, they all think I've done this kind of work for real before,
so I haven't let them in on the "big secret"...


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 226 of 340: Alexander Schuth  (aschuth) * Thu, May 20, 1999 (17:06) * 1 lines 
 
(How do you feel?)


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 227 of 340: wer  (KitchenManager) * Thu, May 20, 1999 (17:34) * 3 lines 
 
(still haven't quite adjusted to the radical environmental changes,
and until the checks start coming in, there's always the bein'broke stress,
but my appetite is back and my smoking has been cut roughly in half...)


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 228 of 340: Wolf  (wolf) * Thu, May 20, 1999 (17:52) * 1 lines 
 
no doubt due to lack of fundage! hang in there guy, we're pulling for you *hugz*


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 229 of 340: Alexander Schuth  (aschuth) * Fri, May 21, 1999 (05:32) * 5 lines 
 
Hey, Wer, cut all that smoking!

A girl I know at a label, she quit smoking and a year later she had the cash for a three week holiday in California, meeting people, seeing bands, having fun, cruising Bay Area. Would that count as incentive?

(Wolf, I'm with with you - but what am I pulling here? Somebody's leg?)


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 230 of 340: Alexander Schuth  (aschuth) * Fri, May 21, 1999 (05:32) * 1 lines 
 



 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 231 of 340: Stacey Vura  (stacey) * Fri, May 21, 1999 (09:57) * 1 lines 
 
Woo Woo WER!!!!


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 232 of 340: Mike Griggs (mikeg) * Sun, May 23, 1999 (05:54) * 2 lines 
 
Just had a bit of a thought whilst I was playing around in the web interface. If you run in 640*256 then the slide on the main page is pretty big. It would be easy to tailor the main page so that the image was scaled to fit screen resolutions - just a tiny bit of javascript does it. Also, we could implement an option whereby each user could choose whether they wanted the slide on their main page or not (I, for example, don't particularly). Again, easy to do with a web browser cookie. I'd be happy to
o both of these things.


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 233 of 340: Mike Griggs (mikeg) * Sun, May 23, 1999 (06:01) * 1 lines 
 
obviously that should be 640*480 :)


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 234 of 340: wer  (KitchenManager) * Sun, May 23, 1999 (14:00) * 1 lines 
 
'tis worth a shot I 'spose...


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 235 of 340: wer  (KitchenManager) * Sun, Jun 13, 1999 (14:31) * 6 lines 
 
what do you all think of
http://access.spring.net/~wer/test/index.html
as a new main page for
http://www.spring.net/
???
(not everything on it works as of this post 'cause it's still a demo...)


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 236 of 340: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Tue, Jun 15, 1999 (13:30) * 17 lines 
 
Good stuff!

Maybe the conferences could run down the whole page and the Log in / join
/help could be narrower.

Opening several new domains:

http://www.tvshows.com
http://www.bioregion.com
http://www.workontheweb.com

and more!

Needless, to say, I need all the design help I can get... Thanks much,
wer!




 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 237 of 340: wer  (KitchenManager) * Tue, Jun 15, 1999 (14:27) * 3 lines 
 
tell me when and/or where,
and let me know when to come
over if I need some training!


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 238 of 340: Wolf  (wolf) * Wed, Jun 16, 1999 (22:39) * 1 lines 
 
wer, you're a genius! i love your design!!


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 239 of 340: wer  (KitchenManager) * Thu, Jun 17, 1999 (01:07) * 1 lines 
 
thanks


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 240 of 340: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Thu, Jun 17, 1999 (11:00) * 4 lines 
 
Come over any time you have a chance, we've got a whole living room full
of systems waiting for design talent. We can hot rod up a system to your
specs.



 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 241 of 340: Alexander Schuth  (aschuth) * Thu, Jun 17, 1999 (11:06) * 3 lines 
 
Uh, Terry, you sure you want to do that? Rigging a kit to meet Wer's specs must be really challenging... He's such a DEMANDING and EXPECTANT person...

Try to get a decent wig for the case to start with. And cool shades.


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 242 of 340: wer  (KitchenManager) * Thu, Jun 17, 1999 (15:43) * 1 lines 
 
yep...those are a must!


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 243 of 340: wer  (KitchenManager) * Thu, Jun 17, 1999 (18:02) * 6 lines 
 
check http://access.spring.net/~wer/test/index.html
again, guys, as I got rid of the borders
and stretched out the conferences list,
as per Terry's request.

is sometime around 6 tonight okay, Terry?


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 244 of 340: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Fri, Jun 18, 1999 (11:41) * 2 lines 
 
That's ok! You can even work out by the pool now.



 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 245 of 340: Wolf  (wolf) * Fri, Jun 18, 1999 (12:05) * 1 lines 
 
i like it, wer, just one thing, about the scroll bars around the picture and the yellow line inbetween the spring cam and the info about spring cam....can those be removed? i love the scrolling sidebar with the topics alphabetized, much easier!


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 246 of 340: Alexander Schuth  (aschuth) * Fri, Jun 18, 1999 (15:17) * 1 lines 
 
Terry, paint her toes, too... You guys have fun! And Wer, don't rub the sun lotion to strong into the mainboard, when you get worked up, ok? Like, don't pour it on, buddy!


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 247 of 340: wer  (KitchenManager) * Sat, Jun 19, 1999 (13:15) * 6 lines 
 
because of monitor sizes, and using minimized windows, Wolf, I can't
get rid of all the scrollbars without loosing some info that's up...
just like the yellow line which is below the springcam for me, but
beside it for you...I can make it a different color and I think I'll
go with the green of the background on the cam info frame...should I
go with the different fonts for the conference names?


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 248 of 340: Wolf  (wolf) * Sat, Jun 19, 1999 (23:08) * 1 lines 
 
oh, thanks for explaining wer *hugs* um, the green would work, methinks....and the conf names, hmmmm...maybe a size bigger...i dunno, it's obvious you worked hard on it and i hope you don't think i'm being critical *smooch*


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 249 of 340: wer  (KitchenManager) * Sun, Jun 20, 1999 (00:41) * 5 lines 
 
no, go ahead and be critical...if it doesn't appeal to as many as
possible, there's no need to change it, right?

anyway, the green is done, and I've started playing with the fonts,
so go check it again...


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 250 of 340: wer  (KitchenManager) * Sun, Jun 20, 1999 (12:30) * 5 lines 
 
played some more...combined two frames for less scroll bars...
check it out again at
http://access.spring.net/~wer/test/index.html

I may get it right yet!!!


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 251 of 340: Wolf  (wolf) * Sun, Jun 20, 1999 (14:58) * 1 lines 
 
so far so good! i like what i'm seeing, anyway...


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 252 of 340: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Sun, Jun 20, 1999 (19:57) * 1 lines 
 
It's good, wer, but the font in the lower left box (with Spring's address) needs to be much larger so folks will know where to send their checks! I see you like the black box. Oh well, can't win 'um all...


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 253 of 340: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Mon, Jun 21, 1999 (09:11) * 2 lines 
 
Looks good, much better without the big borders between frames. I like
the way only the picture refreshes.


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 254 of 340: wer  (KitchenManager) * Tue, Jun 22, 1999 (01:29) * 2 lines 
 
there's not a black box...two frames are really dark green,
but I'm not sure what you're referring to as the black box...


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 255 of 340: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Tue, Jun 22, 1999 (02:18) * 1 lines 
 
The left-most one with the green plain typing in it. It is not the screen part waiting for the picture to come on - it is the slightly larger one to the far left. (It really does not bother me as I do not come in that way!)It is really quite fine.


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 256 of 340: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Tue, Jun 22, 1999 (02:23) * 1 lines 
 
I just went back to check and it looks Great. It is just perfect and I really like it now that the refreshing picture there. Good job, wer. Take a bow!


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 257 of 340: wer  (KitchenManager) * Wed, Jun 23, 1999 (00:07) * 1 lines 
 
thanks


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 258 of 340: Alexander Schuth  (aschuth) * Thu, Aug 12, 1999 (12:39) * 1 lines 
 
Who changed the background in Music?


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 259 of 340: wer  (KitchenManager) * Thu, Aug 12, 1999 (12:42) * 1 lines 
 
I did...do you not like it?


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 260 of 340: wer  (KitchenManager) * Thu, Aug 12, 1999 (12:44) * 2 lines 
 
My apologies...I should have asked since you be a host in there...
what is my "punishment"?


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 261 of 340: Alexander Schuth  (aschuth) * Thu, Aug 12, 1999 (12:46) * 3 lines 
 
Hmh. It looks nice, but I *liked* the old one with the musical notes... plus the blue of the writing and the greenish stripes hurts my eyes a bit.

You also made the "clear"-button vanish from under the field to write in?


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 262 of 340: Alexander Schuth  (aschuth) * Thu, Aug 12, 1999 (12:47) * 1 lines 
 
Punishment: How about my opinion on it? See above... (And believe me, this hurts me more than you!)


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 263 of 340: wer  (KitchenManager) * Thu, Aug 12, 1999 (12:50) * 3 lines 
 
yeah...the stripes and the blue does that to mine, too...
any suggestions for a different background or do you just
want the eyes and notes back?


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 264 of 340: Alexander Schuth  (aschuth) * Thu, Aug 12, 1999 (13:13) * 5 lines 
 
Hmh. Eyes are cool, notes are musical - perhaps a different hue for a change?

I hate sinking other people's boats, so - any suggestion?

What about the "clear"-button?


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 265 of 340: wer  (KitchenManager) * Thu, Aug 12, 1999 (13:25) * 4 lines 
 
yeah, I took it away again, too...got some complaints that
people were hitting it instead of submit...

hmmm...colors...


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 266 of 340: Alexander Schuth  (aschuth) * Thu, Aug 12, 1999 (13:38) * 7 lines 
 
OK, lemme guess - Moonbeam?

I never had this problem, but found it very useful when I pasted some copied text in there, but wanted to take it out again for some reason (wrong topic, etc.).

How about putting it ABOVE the window? No clumsy fingers can mistake it there...

(What always happened to me was, I hit the redisplay button. Took me a month to get over this...)


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 267 of 340: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Thu, Aug 12, 1999 (13:53) * 1 lines 
 
Any way you can make those eyes and notes less intense - or the stripes more muted would be welcome to these eyes.


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 268 of 340: wer  (KitchenManager) * Thu, Aug 12, 1999 (14:07) * 1 lines 
 
I can try re-positioning, yes...


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 269 of 340: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Thu, Aug 12, 1999 (14:12) * 1 lines 
 
No, Not Moonbeam...I was the one who requested its removal - but I am not alone. Until you have written an opus worthy of binding and hit the wrong button (btw, I could handle it if it were far to the right of the submit button), you do not appreciate how infernal that clear button can really be.


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 270 of 340: Alexander Schuth  (aschuth) * Sun, Aug 15, 1999 (06:24) * 3 lines 
 
Amazing - never had that! Always screwed things myself using the redisplay button...

But we wouldn't kick that, would we?


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 271 of 340: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Sun, Aug 15, 1999 (14:50) * 2 lines 
 
Compromise is a good thing about the Clear button. I made a location change request in Drool and the magicians there put it to the far right of the box in which I am now writing...opposite corner from the submit button. That is great. BTW, when I do want to delete the whole mess I highlight one line, hit the control+A and it is all highlighted. Then I hit the delete button on the computer and it is gone! Just a thought. I spent two days looking for good wallpaper for music but came up empty. I canno
read through those same-color-as-the-post eyes and notes. Oh well...it is not my conference...=)


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 272 of 340: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Thu, Mar  2, 2000 (15:19) * 2 lines 
 
The Front Page - http://www.spring.net - looks incredible with the black background. Really stands out. Wolf said she can see the pictures in the table on the right but I cannot see them. I dumped cache, closed out the computer, rebooted and the whole nine yards. I still cannot see them, though I can see the globe at the bottom of the middle table. I know, get rid of Netscape! Must I purge my hotlist again to get any of the graphics I am supposed to be seeing?
I need help - what else is new?! Anyway, it looks sensational. Just thought you should know...*smile*


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 273 of 340: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Thu, Mar  2, 2000 (18:20) * 2 lines 
 
And, if the black wallpaper is the intended one, would Ree's artwork not be exquisite on such a background in that large empty square in the middle table?
The type colors chosen would be exactly right with the "painting", as well. We would have the classiest front page on the entire web!


 Topic 33 of 102 [porch]: Spring re-design
 Response 274 of 340: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Sun, Mar  5, 2000 (21:21) * 1 lines 
 
May I please make a little request when there is nothing else to do? Could you please consider putting the beautiful blue sky with the white puffy clouds as music conf wallpaper? It is scre