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Topic 8 of 102: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics

Wed, Nov 27, 1996 (12:55) | Paul Terry Walhus (terry)
This item is to talk about the Spring in general, but specifically
to discuss issues and topics in other places that have some impact
on this community and this conference.

To some extent, the growth and well being of this conference are
tied to the growth and the well being of the Spring as a whole.
The Spring is free to all and hopefully it will remain that way.
It is supported by spinoff projects, particularly website hosting
and contruction, that may be generated through the good will and
name recognition that the Spring has. Perhaps some of you would
like to become part of the guidance of the Spring and be part of
the "SpringBoard" that is now about to form.

So, this will be a "state of the Spring" item as well as a
pointer to other topics of interest around the Spring and to
websites under developement on the Spring.
591 responses total.

 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 1 of 591: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Wed, Nov 27, 1996 (13:05) * 29 lines 
 
Perhaps this topic will be a place to respond to all the email
queries about "why is this free?" and "what can I do to help?"
and other questions along a similar thread.

The Spring is building some contract websites. One that is
currently under construction is

http://www.childrenstory.com

I am billing a customer for this website. The revenue will go
to replace a badly needed hard drive for one of our servers,
make upgrades, and pay our kindly bandwidth provider. So, those
of you with website contruction skills, this is something very
specific and concrete you can do to help support the Spring and
keep it going. You can help build this site, which is going to
have a Real Audio server and will provide children with stories
in written and spoken form.

You can help directly by writing html code (I'll give you access)
or you can just make suggestions. I'm going to open a new
conference called 'projects' and this will be one of the first
topics and we can carry a discussion of how to build and improve
this site there.

Another website under construction to look at would be:

http://www.tvpc.com

Let me know!


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 2 of 591: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Wed, Nov 27, 1996 (13:10) * 4 lines 
 
A pointer to a new conference: poetry. It just started
this morning. I sent out a few invitations. If you have
that poem hidden away in the bottom of that sock drawer, type
it out and post it. Any poets or poetry lovers here?


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 3 of 591: The Mysterious H.C.  (churchh) * Wed, Nov 27, 1996 (20:38) * 2 lines 
 
Hey Terry, you can link to or kipe my HTML-ization of George MacDonald's
The Light Princess, at http://uts.cc.utexas.edu/~churchh/lprincss.html


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 4 of 591: Joan, too  (jwinsor) * Wed, Nov 27, 1996 (21:26) * 1 lines 
 
Oh, HC - do you have any more MacDonald up your electronic sleeve?


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 5 of 591: The Mysterious H.C.  (churchh) * Wed, Nov 27, 1996 (21:55) * 2 lines 
 
I also converted The Day Boy and the Night Girl (The Romance of Photogen and Nycteris) to HTML, but that was for the CCEL people, and it's on their web-site (you can find it through the CMU on-line books page, or I think there might be a lin
k to it at the end of the text of the Light Princess).


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 6 of 591: Joan, too  (jwinsor) * Thu, Nov 28, 1996 (01:57) * 1 lines 
 
Who are CCEL? [something] Children's Electronic Literature, perhaps? Do you happen to have a link handy for CMU on-line books?


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 7 of 591: The Mysterious H.C.  (churchh) * Thu, Nov 28, 1996 (08:35) * 2 lines 
 
"Christian Classics Ethereal Library", I think...
I'm too lazy to look up the CMU on-line books URL right now, but there's a link to it from the Jane Austen info page at http://uts.cc.utexas.edu/~churchh/janeinfo.html


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 8 of 591: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Thu, Nov 28, 1996 (14:39) * 12 lines 
 
I looked at the Jane Austen info page and it's terrific. I got
into reading some of Jane Austen's works and I'll be coming back
for more visits.

What I'd like to do is set up a team of folks who have shell access
to this site and who are able to work in various websites of their
own and on the projects that I'm developing to help support this
conferencing system. Has anyone visited the projects conference yet?

I'm on Microsoft Netmeeting all day today so if anyone wants to "talk"
please drop by. I'm on the uls1.microsoft.com server. You need to
have NetMeeting software, which is free from Microsofts site.


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 9 of 591: Paul Terry Walhus  (terry) * Mon, Dec  2, 1996 (10:53) * 3 lines 
 
Poor mixu! He's posting all alone in the books conference about his favorite books and putting out a mystery quote for folks to guess. Is anyone up to giving him a bit of company in the 'books' conference?

http://www.spring.com/yapp-bin/restricted/browse/books/all/


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 10 of 591: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Wed, Dec 25, 1996 (22:04) * 2 lines 
 
Check out the interesting comments on community in topic 4 of the community
conference and respond, if you care to.


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 11 of 591: Joan, too  (jwinsor) * Wed, Dec 25, 1996 (22:25) * 2 lines 
 
Terry, are you sure that you mean topic 4? That is the same (linked) topic as the "ramble" topic (with a different topic number) here. We don't have to "go there" to see it.



 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 12 of 591: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Thu, Dec 26, 1996 (22:50) * 3 lines 
 
Ooops, no it is the last topic added I believe. What other
conferences on the Spring have folks here in Austen been
visiting? Any suggestions for new topics elsewhere on the Spring?


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 13 of 591: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Thu, Dec 26, 1996 (22:54) * 1 lines 
 
It's topic 5 in community actually.


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 14 of 591: Paul Terry Walhus  (terry) * Fri, Dec 27, 1996 (00:24) * 6 lines 
 
If you want to read some very eloquent stuff:

Topic 14 of 14 [music]: Players you have met
Response 21 of 21: drymartini (drymartini) * Thu, Dec 26, 1996 (21:27) * 3 lines

One of my all-time favorite interviews. Carlos Montoya, playing for a college crowd at Alfred, NY. Small, very dapper guy in this elegant tux, with a white hanky in his breat pocket, folded just so.... [much more]


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 15 of 591: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sun, Dec 29, 1996 (15:42) * 27 lines 
 
We have got permission from ronks@well.com to reprint his
celebrated tech news comments, starting today. Here's a
sample:


Scientific American has an interesting article in its January 1997 issue
about developments in fiber-optic bandwidth and their implications for the
telephone industry. Companies including AT&T, Fujitsu, and Nippon T&T have
already used a single optical fiber to transmit data over "many kilometers"
in excess of a trillion bits per second. NEC has gone them one better by
using wave division multiplexing to create multiple channels transmitting at
different wavelengths; with WDM they sent 132 channels, each carrying 20
billion bits per second, over a single optical fiber. While these "hero
experiments" are not yet ready for commercial deployment, they seem to
demonstrate big changes in store: glass cable is much cheaper than copper,
and WDM is said to eliminate both the need for expensive boosters along the
path to clean up the signals periodically and for a separate laser on each
channel. As the cost of providing humungous bandwidth plummets, the phone
companies' revenue and even their monopoly status could be in jeopardy. A
rogue spokesman at British Telecom says technology will make "bandwidth free
and distance irrelevant." The director of H-P's labs says phone companies
will become digital utilities something like the water or the power company,
and an independent analyst estimates "telephone service should cost about
three cents a month."

Check out topic 2 in techbusiness.



 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 16 of 591: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Tue, Dec 31, 1996 (10:29) * 10 lines 
 
The Spring was down for the past hour. I apologize to Myretta, Henry and others
that may have been trying to access it. I'm going through the log and emailing folks
that have tried to access it and letting them know that it's back up.

I messed it up this morning trying to reconfigure and restart the logs. If you're
interested in the technical details of what I did you can read the sordid details
in the web conference.

Sorry folks, I'm not happy about being down for an hour this morning.



 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 17 of 591: Donna  (Donna) * Tue, Dec 31, 1996 (10:42) * 1 lines 
 
That is OK Terry it is working fine now.


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 18 of 591: Ted Chong (tedchong) * Tue, Dec 31, 1996 (11:23) * 4 lines 
 

Thanks Terry, happy new year 1997 (it's 1997 already here in
Singapore)



 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 19 of 591: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Tue, Dec 31, 1996 (11:23) * 17 lines 
 
On a cheerier note, Paul McCartney is now

Sir Paul McCartney


And you can read all the details in the new
Sir Paul McCartney topic in the music conference.

Please do my a favor. Do a search on Paul McCartney
and find a neat website about Paul McCartney, then
email the webmaster or whatever email address is
listed on their website and ask them to please put
a link on their page to our Paul McCartney discussion
group.

Tell them this is the link to add:

http://www.spring.com/yapp-bin/public/read/music/16

Let's see if we can honor Paul in this way! Thanks.


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 20 of 591: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Tue, Dec 31, 1996 (11:29) * 8 lines 
 
I'm encouraging folks to do this same kind of thing all over
the Spring. If you have a favorite topic, do a search for websites
about it and then email the person in charge there to put in a link
to the Spring. Just copy the link from your browser window and sub
the word public for the word restricted. (test it)

Beep beep beep beep yeeeahhh!



 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 21 of 591: Myretta    (mrobens) * Tue, Dec 31, 1996 (13:44) * 4 lines 
 
The Spring was down for the past hour. I apologize to Myretta, Henry and others
that may have been trying to access it

No apology necessary Terry. Been there, done that. All's well, they say, that ends well.


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 22 of 591: kathleen  (elder) * Tue, Dec 31, 1996 (15:30) * 3 lines 
 
Terry -- thanks for getting things back together so quickly. I did try to get on this am, and kept getting called an "Unprivileged User"!! I was afraid it was something wrong w/ my system, and I am much relieved to see that all is again well.

Have a Happy!


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 23 of 591: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Tue, Dec 31, 1996 (18:07) * 2 lines 
 
We're back. And I just got back from installing another server on
our network. So we even have more ooooomph now.


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 24 of 591: Paul Terry Walhus  (terry) * Mon, Jan 13, 1997 (05:38) * 2 lines 
 
The austen conference is featured today on the Spring's front page. Along with a revision of the whole page. Take a trip through the past in the archives.
The new golf site is my sisters (she lives in the SF Bay area).


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 25 of 591: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sat, Feb  1, 1997 (16:25) * 3 lines 
 
The restaurants conference has a much bigger menu of topics and a place to talk
about the best restaurant in your town and the best restaurant in the world. Any
ideas?


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 26 of 591: The Mysterious H.C.  (churchh) * Sat, Feb  1, 1997 (17:56) * 2 lines 
 
Amy, this has started up just recently --
http://www.islandmm.com/islandmm/cgi-bin/bbs.pl?action=bbs&mbaction=msgs&item=alice


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 27 of 591: The Mysterious H.C.  (churchh) * Sat, Feb  1, 1997 (18:04) * 2 lines 
 
Amy, this has started up just recently --
http://www.islandmm.com/islandmm/cgi-bin/bbs.pl?action=bbs&mbaction=msgs&item=alice


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 28 of 591: Amy  (Amy) * Sat, Feb  1, 1997 (18:53) * 1 lines 
 
That board looks familiar.


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 29 of 591: Myretta   (mrobens) * Sun, Feb  2, 1997 (12:24) * 4 lines 
 
That board looks familiar.

Indeed.



 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 30 of 591: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sat, Feb  8, 1997 (00:23) * 13 lines 
 
You'll find the rest of this poem in the poetry conference. This is just a taste.

Flowing Like Spring Waters



Tonight is the night, my dear friend.
The feeling has ripened inside for months...

Every time you and I were together
Laughing, chatting, and rambling endlessly

much more in the poetry conference --------->


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 31 of 591: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sun, Feb  9, 1997 (22:45) * 5 lines 
 
There's a new conference called 'unix' and I posted quite a few things
in the Internet and Web conferences. You'll find out about the seven new domains
that are going to be on the Internet. This will shake things up for sure. Maybe
we should get austen.art? Or eeyieeyi.io? Or spring.firm? Things are going to
get very interesting. You have to read the whole thing.


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 32 of 591: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sun, Feb  9, 1997 (22:47) * 2 lines 
 
What are you watching on tv right now? That's a new topic in the tv conference.
Have fun with this one.


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 33 of 591: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sun, Feb  9, 1997 (22:57) * 2 lines 
 
In the sports conference, news of a womens' sports site that has been months in
the making. Topic 39 on sports web sites ------------ go there -------------->


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 34 of 591: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sun, Feb  9, 1997 (23:08) * 3 lines 
 
Like figure skating on ice? Then you'll like the new figure skating topic in
sports which has all the latest schedules of ice skating events on tv. And there
is a packers joke there too.


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 35 of 591: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Fri, Feb  6, 1998 (19:15) * 8 lines 
 
Very Highly Recommended dept:

Gerard Van der Leun, boswell@well.com, has an excellent cookbook recipe for a
successful virtual community in the virtual community conference.

http://www.spring.com/yapp-bin/public/read/vc/12




 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 36 of 591: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Mon, Feb  9, 1998 (08:29) * 3 lines 
 
Two new Michigan virtual communities are the subject of new topics
in the vc or virtual community conference: grex and m-net.



 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 37 of 591: Autumn Moore  (autumn) * Mon, Feb  9, 1998 (21:04) * 1 lines 
 
I am trying to get an alternative medicine topic off the ground in the health conference. Even if you don't take vitamins and think acupuncture is a bunch of hooey, check it out and say so.


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 38 of 591: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Fri, Feb 13, 1998 (09:55) * 15 lines 
 
I'd like to point out some topics getting activity in
the travel conference:

16 15 dive travel with Divine Spark
17 3 India
18 4 Micronesia and the Pacific region
19 3 Fiji

There is a fascinating tale of travel to India and
some comments from some islanders themselves in
topics 18 and 19.

Have you traveled any places that we could start a
new topic about?



 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 39 of 591: Wolf  (Wolf) * Sun, Feb 15, 1998 (11:30) * 1 lines 
 
How about Germany, where I'm from? (Specifically Swabia)


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 40 of 591: wer  (KitchenManager) * Sun, Feb 15, 1998 (16:23) * 1 lines 
 
Swabia?


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 41 of 591: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sun, Feb 15, 1998 (17:56) * 2 lines 
 
Swabia?



 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 42 of 591: Wolf  (Wolf) * Sun, Feb 15, 1998 (18:30) * 2 lines 
 
uh huh. that would be the southern country where i'm from. the city is Stuttgart.
Hi wer!


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 43 of 591: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sun, Feb 15, 1998 (21:28) * 1 lines 
 
Sure start a topic!


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 44 of 591: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Fri, Feb 27, 1998 (20:19) * 10 lines 
 

I put some procative posts in the Internet conference today in a new
topic. Something called Cyberwar: The Information Revolution and Warfare.

It turns out, for the last half century, the US has been intercepting
and
decrypting the top secret documents of most of the world's governments.

It's topic 22.



 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 45 of 591: Autumn Moore  (autumn) * Fri, Feb 27, 1998 (22:46) * 1 lines 
 
Cool! What will we Yanks think up next?! :-)


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 46 of 591: Mike Griggs  (mikeg) * Fri, Feb 27, 1998 (22:53) * 1 lines 
 
Hmm...just occured to me that this topic and "What's hot on the Spring?" rather overlap with each other. Perhaps one or the other should be frozen?


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 47 of 591: wer  (KitchenManager) * Sat, Feb 28, 1998 (01:24) * 2 lines 
 
thumbs down on that, it would leave us one less place to babble,
and we can't have that now, can we?


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 48 of 591: Wolf  (Wolf) * Sat, Feb 28, 1998 (11:42) * 2 lines 
 
dunno, wer, maybe we can talk the higher powers into creating a conference
just for babbling-we'd never have to leave!!


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 49 of 591: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sat, Feb 28, 1998 (13:47) * 2 lines 
 
Good idea Mike, which one should I freeze. Anyone object?



 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 50 of 591: wer  (KitchenManager) * Sat, Feb 28, 1998 (14:01) * 2 lines 
 
I don't know, but definitely kill 16 and 19.



 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 51 of 591: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sat, Feb 28, 1998 (14:05) * 5 lines 
 
In music, topic 44 is Van Morrison - the Man with news of an upcoming Van
and Dylan tour. About time to pay some tribute to Van Morrison.

Gotta get me that Astral Weeks CD.



 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 52 of 591: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sat, Feb 28, 1998 (14:07) * 3 lines 
 
Done deal on killing the redundant topics, this is now spring pointer to
other topic world headquarters.



 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 53 of 591: Wolf  (Wolf) * Sat, Feb 28, 1998 (19:32) * 3 lines 
 
wait, what was 16 and 19??

terry, didja catch my hint for a blabbing conference? *grin*


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 54 of 591: wer  (KitchenManager) * Sun, Mar  1, 1998 (00:37) * 1 lines 
 
they were just doubles, Wolf...


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 55 of 591: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sun, Mar  1, 1998 (09:48) * 1 lines 
 
I got the hint, I'll hold hearings for more comment.


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 56 of 591: Wolf  (Wolf) * Sun, Mar  1, 1998 (12:48) * 1 lines 
 
thanks *smile*


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 57 of 591: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Mon, Mar  2, 1998 (02:23) * 9 lines 
 
What's hot, hot, hot.

News. There's now a whole news conference.

Go there and find out stuff you should know (maybe), talk about your
Spring anniversary, discuss spam, enter your offsite email address if you
care to do so, request favors, talk about springeurs who have hit the big
time or made the news, pat yourself on the back, and find out about
places to go and things to do.


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 58 of 591: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Mon, Mar  2, 1998 (02:56) * 8 lines 
 
In the media conference, bet you didn't know we had one, there's a new
topic on the Drudge Report.

My friend Judith Lewis of the LA Weekly is just down the streeet from
Matt Drudge and has been known to pay him a visit every so often.

Go to media and get in on this drudgery.



 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 59 of 591: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Mon, Mar  2, 1998 (03:14) * 2 lines 
 
And also something about our homeboys. Guess where?



 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 60 of 591: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Mon, Mar  2, 1998 (04:45) * 20 lines 
 
Let's rewind to June 22, 1995 and pick up where we left off.

Nike was there. So was Gena.

GenX is back!!!!!!

Here's the scoop:


1 4 genx conference bidness
2 1 genXer intros
3 0 drugs
4 1 sex or . . .
5 1 Embarassing Things I Did in the '80s
6 1 First jobs from hell and beyond

... and a total of 64 topics to come

Melissa Marie, I still love you.



 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 61 of 591: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Mon, Mar  2, 1998 (04:54) * 5 lines 
 
The Spring's original topic list from 1995:

http://www.spring.com:/~dbii/forum/confs/confs.html




 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 62 of 591: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Wed, Mar  4, 1998 (07:06) * 24 lines 
 
Some very good thoughts on the CFP conference in the last
topic in our cfp conference:

From: Lorrie Faith Cranor

[For the past five years I have written a Computers, Freedom and
Privacy conference report (see the archive at=20

http://www.research.att.com/~lorrie/pubs/cfp.html). This year,
turned the job over to Danielle Gallo, an undergraduate student who
has been working with me. Feel free to forward this report.
-- Lorrie Cranor]

Danielle Gallo's CFP98 Conference Report

Computers, Freedom and Privacy '98 was held February 18-20 at the
Austin, Texas Hyatt Regency Hotel. Although there have been eight in
total, this is the first CFP I attended. The program featured daily
single-track sessions, lunch breakout sessions, and several concurrent
tutorials.

. . . contines with her extensive observations.

A good read! Recommended.


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 63 of 591: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Wed, Mar  4, 1998 (07:14) * 42 lines 
 
Letter to me and Mike:


Sounds like a good trade to me. I am doing a CGI project for the
Exploratorium in San Francisco on a volunteer basis and that is why I
need the test space. I don't have years of experience doing this, but
there are some prewritten CGI libraries available that allow a developer
to write a CGI script that will put up the HTML form and collect the
data. At this point I would have to say that I could probably write the
part that put up the HTML and collected the data. So, in that regard,
let me take a stab at what I think you might mean.

Name:
Email:
What you do in real life:
Favorite sites on the web:
Other interests, and miscellaneous biographical information:

Other or different fields that you have in mind:

A couple of areas that I am going to have to do some research on, or get
ideas about:

If there are variables that I can access for the visitor's email
address, or am I going to
have to make them enter it by hand.

How to link the information I collect to the visitor's alias. Maybe
the people at the Well
would be willing to part with some secrets in that regard.

Anyway, I think it would be fun to be involved in writing the CGI script
for this, and if the library I mentioned is loaded, or could be loaded,
on the server, I don't think it would be too
much work to get to the point of having the form displayed and
collecting the information.

Let me know what fields and other form elements you think should be in
there. I will follow up with some questions for Terry.

Regards,
Bill


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 64 of 591: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Wed, Mar  4, 1998 (10:10) * 30 lines 
 
Allie McBeal, a new topic in the tv confernce (and also 'babes').

See, there's this tv show called Ally McBeal. And it features three
*hot babes*. That little bit of sexual subconscious out of the way,
let me say it's a very funny show. It's a great show, I'll go even further.

It's about a law firm. And Allie's ex lover just happens to be a
member of the firm and he's married to a gal that has a jaw and blonde hair
that Allie doesn't have. Billy, the ex lover of Allie, has mixed
emotions And Allie has become friends with Billy's wife.

We're talking age ranges of 25-28 here, folks.

My theory is that this is a guy type show, and that women will find it
embarassing. I don't think it will end up on the feminist top ten
listing of tv shows, maybe the bottom ten. The women are too cute
and too bimboish at times. And the women aren't the aggressive, free
wheeling Marcia Clark types, they're quite timid usually.

But how can you not like a show whose lead actress is

*** Calista Flockhart ***

That name just does it for me. I would love to have a girlfriend like
her just so I could introduce her to people. Uh, I'd like you to meet
my girlfriend, *Calista Flockhart*. Dream, dream.

I'll have more to say about Allie McBeal. It's my favorite tv show. I
hope others will join me in this quaint little discussion.



 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 65 of 591: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Wed, Mar  4, 1998 (10:15) * 9 lines 
 
Jordan's up to bat, does that mean Lewinsky's in the on deck circle.

Politics, in the topic on the Clinton Presidency.

Hey, it's great to see the new conferences, news and genx, off to such a
roaring start! I have a lot more surprises in store in both conferences
in the way of stome startling new topics. Stay tuned.




 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 66 of 591: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Wed, Mar  4, 1998 (10:18) * 12 lines 
 
There's an *awesome* array of new material in the cfp conference.
Warning, this is heady stuff, the legal and moral consequences of
today's cyberspace mileau and the implications for our future freedom,
privacy and lives are freely discussed. It's a stretch to get past the
gate, but the effort may be worth your time.

Danielle's observations are far reaching and comprehensive in her
roundup of the confernce. Danielle Gallo, on CFP98.

j cfp.




 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 67 of 591: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Wed, Mar  4, 1998 (10:29) * 7 lines 
 
The most underutilized, ready for prime time conference on the Spring
that has potential for future stardom:

cultures

Hear me now, or hear me later. Pump it up!



 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 68 of 591: wer  (KitchenManager) * Wed, Mar  4, 1998 (13:28) * 1 lines 
 
Yes, dad.


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 69 of 591: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Wed, Mar  4, 1998 (21:47) * 1 lines 
 
Dad!!!


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 70 of 591: Autumn Moore  (autumn) * Thu, Mar  5, 1998 (02:49) * 1 lines 
 
Is there something you want to share with us, Terry??


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 71 of 591: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Thu, Mar  5, 1998 (04:15) * 2 lines 
 
You mean I haven't been forthcoming, autumn?



 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 72 of 591: Wolf  (Wolf) * Sat, Mar  7, 1998 (17:36) * 3 lines 
 
ok, terry (aka wer's dad).....

Hi Autumn!


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 73 of 591: Autumn Moore  (autumn) * Sat, Mar  7, 1998 (23:17) * 1 lines 
 
Heya, Wolfie, havin' a good weekend? :-) Mine has been soooo relaxing....


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 74 of 591: Wolf  (Wolf) * Sun, Mar  8, 1998 (16:47) * 8 lines 
 
not really, kinda stressin', been working on my site and trying to figure out
what the deal is with this browser.......

got the baby girl's ears pierced yesterday, she did soooo good. the part she
can't handle is the cleaning and turning the posts, but today it is going much
better and she's doing it for herself. am very proud of her. the whole thing
was her decision, told her she didn't have to if she didn't want to, but she
was gung ho!


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 75 of 591: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Mon, Mar  9, 1998 (13:16) * 3 lines 
 
Good coverage by Gary Chapman of the Bruce Sterling speech in the cfp
conference. j cfp



 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 76 of 591: Autumn Moore  (autumn) * Tue, Mar 10, 1998 (11:58) * 1 lines 
 
My older daughter came to me yesterday asking for pierced ears for her birthday (she'll be 6). Her dad said age 15, I said 10, so it'll probably be next year! How old is your little girl?


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 77 of 591: Wolf  (Wolf) * Tue, Mar 10, 1998 (20:46) * 4 lines 
 
4, she'll be 5 next month (didn't we have that conversation before?) didn't get
mine done til i was 16 cuz the big d said heck no. we let her think about it
for a while and i carefully explained the whole thing, my big thing was letting
her make up her own mind, you know?


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 78 of 591: Autumn Moore  (autumn) * Wed, Mar 11, 1998 (15:44) * 2 lines 
 
yeah, but mine also wants to be bald (she literally cries about wanting to have her head shaved), black (which I can do nothing about) and handicapped (which I'm tempted to do something about--just kidding!) So giving her too much control is definitely o
ut of the question. Oh, she also wants me to get a job so she can go to day care (just tear out my heart, I tell her!)


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 79 of 591: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Wed, Mar 11, 1998 (15:47) * 2 lines 
 
Babe of the week in babes. I know, we pale next to drool.



 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 80 of 591: Wolf  (Wolf) * Wed, Mar 11, 1998 (19:40) * 4 lines 
 
what is this an invite?

Autumn, my daughter hasn't gone that far yet! she wants me to tell my boss i'm
not coming back so i can be with her! (she's mama's for sure)


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 81 of 591: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Thu, Mar 12, 1998 (18:49) * 12 lines 
 
New topics in the news conference:

Asteroid!

WASHINGTON (AP) -- It's not time to panic, but Earthlings need to keep
an eye on a mile-wide asteroid that will zip very close to the Earth
in 30 years and could even smash into the planet, causing widespread
destruction, astronomers say.

Is it time to book that flight to Mars or is this a bunch of hype?
Discuss among yourselves in the news conference topic called Asteroid!



 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 82 of 591: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Thu, Mar 12, 1998 (18:54) * 6 lines 
 
That will be the year 2028 in case you need to mark your calendars.
It will be 1:30 on a Thursday morning. October 26, 2028. Thursday. 1:30
am. Got that?

Did you have anything planned for that day?



 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 83 of 591: Wolf  (Wolf) * Thu, Mar 12, 1998 (23:22) * 2 lines 
 
wait.....do dayrunners plan that far in advance? (anyway, it's gonna be a near
miss by about 600,000 miles)


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 84 of 591: Mike Griggs  (mikeg) * Fri, Mar 13, 1998 (00:04) * 3 lines 
 
I was very concerned about this when I saw it on the news. As a student of geophysics, and the science of major collisions, if this thing hits it's going to be The Big One. For the religious ones amongst you (including me), it's time to get your on your
knees =)



 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 85 of 591: Wolf  (Wolf) * Fri, Mar 13, 1998 (00:07) * 1 lines 
 
hey, it's going to MISS US......


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 86 of 591: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Fri, Mar 13, 1998 (13:26) * 6 lines 
 
Maybe. It will be four months till they have accurate calculations. But
even if was aimed dead center at Manhattan, they'd turn it into a media
circus and attach rockets to it and turn it into a theme park and steer
it into a different orbit. And the commercials would dwarf what it costs
to put an ad on the superbowl.



 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 87 of 591: mike derl  (drool) * Fri, Mar 13, 1998 (18:46) * 5 lines 
 
I wondering Terry what did you mean you pale next to drool?
I'm chewing my nails waiting for the day my son will be born.
So please you guys don't scare me so that I start chewing my fingers...
O.K. thanks,
drool


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 88 of 591: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Fri, Mar 13, 1998 (18:56) * 2 lines 
 
I meant drool the conference!!! ha!



 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 89 of 591: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sat, Mar 14, 1998 (04:08) * 4 lines 
 
A certain Gerard van der Leun, boswell, shows up doubting the Spring will
make it, and giving it poor grades. He posts in the Spring's most
infrequently utilized Internet conference.



 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 90 of 591: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sat, Mar 14, 1998 (18:21) * 3 lines 
 
A photography topic is now in the art conference. I talk about some
findings I got re: 3d photography.



 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 91 of 591: mike derl  (drool) * Sat, Mar 14, 1998 (20:32) * 4 lines 
 
terry, theres a confrencecalled drool? really? How do I get there from here?
I am sorry if I offended you or anything.
drool, the person



 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 92 of 591: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sun, Mar 15, 1998 (08:30) * 2 lines 
 
There's a link to it from our main http://www.spring.net page.
Wow, just getting used to that dot net!


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 93 of 591: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sun, Mar 15, 1998 (10:09) * 4 lines 
 
I will be giving a live talk via realaudio at http://www.spring.net today
and call ins will be accepted (512.303.4000), it will be a live internet
"talk show".



 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 94 of 591: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sun, Mar 15, 1998 (13:19) * 9 lines 
 
Rush Limbaugh has come out in favor of legalization of marijuana.

Full details in the Rush Room topic in the radio conference.

This is not a joke, he did come out in favor of legalization.

It happened March 12 10:40 am pst. Three times!




 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 95 of 591: nick a'hannay  (pmnh) * Sun, Mar 15, 1998 (15:51) * 4 lines 
 
wasn't limbaugh one of the bastards that so unmercifully
tormented clinton's first surgeon-general (forget her name)
for basically saying that we should consider decriminalization
of some drugs?


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 96 of 591: Autumn Moore  (autumn) * Sun, Mar 15, 1998 (16:18) * 1 lines 
 
I'll guess Jocelyn Elders, if we're talking about the "pro-decriminalization/pro-masturbation" surgeon general.


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 97 of 591: nick a'hannay  (pmnh) * Sun, Mar 15, 1998 (16:32) * 8 lines 
 
what elders (thank you) said was that it (decriminalization) was
an issue that merited discussion... she's in good company with that
view...
re: masturbation, don't think it really means a tinker's damn what her
opinion is, one way or the other...
(and regardless of one's view, really must ask one's self where republicans
would be, without it?...(especially rush)... they're certainly repressed
enough, as it is)...


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 98 of 591: nick a'hannay  (pmnh) * Sun, Mar 15, 1998 (16:35) * 1 lines 
 
(hi autumn)


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 99 of 591: Autumn Moore  (autumn) * Sun, Mar 15, 1998 (16:37) * 1 lines 
 
Just mentioned that, because she'll forever be remembered for her ideas on masturbation rather than decriminalization...


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 100 of 591: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sun, Mar 15, 1998 (19:35) * 2 lines 
 
We'll be going live with our talk show again in an hour.



 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 101 of 591: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Mon, Mar 16, 1998 (08:48) * 8 lines 
 
Right here on the Spring we had an event that shocked even the hoary old
WELL. Sunday, we all went live and really "met" one another for the
first time, I only wish I had pumped it up more on the spring. Next
Sunday we'll do it again. It was a gas, gas, gas. See Mikes topic 26
in this conference.

What should we call this? Sunday Night Live on the Spring?



 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 102 of 591: mike derl  (drool) * Wed, Mar 18, 1998 (19:08) * 3 lines 
 
About the canabis thing out of the 265 chemicals in tobbaco I think 80 of them cause cancer. out of the 18 chemicals in pot none are known too cause cancer...
also a hemp plant produces forty percent more wood products than the trees
being cut down now. I wouldn't mind being able to smoke my coffee table occasionally. hahahah DROOL,


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 103 of 591: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Thu, Mar 19, 1998 (10:41) * 1 lines 
 
*smile*


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 104 of 591: Mike Griggs  (mikeg) * Thu, Mar 19, 1998 (10:59) * 2 lines 
 
Yeah, cannabis is great apart from the mind-threatening hallucinations and permanent psychological disturbances (e.g. Schizophrenia)



 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 105 of 591: Autumn Moore  (autumn) * Thu, Mar 19, 1998 (12:45) * 1 lines 
 
Wow, that explains a lot....


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 106 of 591: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Thu, Mar 19, 1998 (18:21) * 1 lines 
 
aha!


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 107 of 591: mike derl  (drool) * Thu, Mar 19, 1998 (19:49) * 10 lines 
 
Where in the world did you hear that pot causes schizt. I know that it can stunt your emotional growth if you start at a young age. I think you've been
watching to many of those old anti-pot movies. Did you know thatthe gov. did a
test were they gave a mentally disturb man some L.S.D and twelve hours later
{when he came down} he was no longer clasified as mentally disturbed.
If you ever get to the library of congress you should look up these facts.
Knowlege Is Power. {or at least understanding..} I do not condone the use
of L.S.D. {at least not the street stuff, never know whats in that crap}
Remember the gov. has all of the best drugs. And clinton did inhale...
And probly still does.
Drool


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 108 of 591: Mike Griggs  (mikeg) * Thu, Mar 19, 1998 (20:13) * 2 lines 
 
read it in a newspaper article, quoting some recent research at a UK university. I'll look it up again and post it for you



 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 109 of 591: Mike Griggs  (mikeg) * Thu, Mar 19, 1998 (20:23) * 25 lines 
 
this is an extract, since the article is about 500 words

-- BEGIN QUOTE
"We do not yet know enough about its causes to say how schizophrenia can be prevented, but one specific factor is important: drug use."

SANE continues by pointing out that cannabis can cause ahllucinations and paranoid delusions similar to those found in schizophrenia. The psychotic effects induced by these drugs do not always clear up readily, and there is some evidence that they may tr
igger a prolonged schizophrenic illness. In addition, such drugs can cause a relapse in an established illness.

Most doctors have harrowing stories of psychotic breakdown after a young person has been exposed to cannabis. Detailed research is scant, although a study of the role of cannabis in precipitating schizophrenia in Swedish men who had undertaken national s
ervice seemed tod demonstrate a clear link. It is usually considered unlikely that smoking cannabis could be a primary cause of schizophrenia, but likely that it could be a factor in the condition's development in those who are unfortunate enough to have

a genetic susceptibility.

...

Apart from its intoxicating effects and any persistent damage to the psyche, cannabis may also cause acute anxiety or a panic reaction, particularly if the plant has been bred to give a high yield of cannabinoids, a type of cannabis referred to as "skunk"
. Panic attacks may be treated with benzodiazepines, acute psychotic reactions with neuroleptic drugs. Smoking cannabis mixed with tobacco combines the delterious effects of both plants on the air passages.

The ill effects of cannabis are not confied to the brain and lungs. it also causes impotence in men, reduces the sperm count and alters the reproductive hormonal systems. babies born to cannabis-smoking mothers are smaller than average, and feed and set
tle less well.

-- END QUOTE

Dr Thomas Stuttaford, The Times (Tuesday, 17 March, 1998)



 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 110 of 591: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Thu, Mar 19, 1998 (21:39) * 27 lines 
 
Helen Huth died
crossing the bridge
over the river
in Cape Girardeau Missouri.
She was a college student.

I loved her and I loved her poems.

I got a batch of her poetry in the
mail today from Merle Busch,
who is trying to dig up some more of her
work, about 150 poems,
which we are praying are not lost forever.

What a loss for the world,
that she died so young
and didn't get to keep
writing these poems and
that we only have a
few scraps from her prolific output.

Reading these today,
tears came to my eyes,
and I had to go for a
long walk in the woods.




 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 111 of 591: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Thu, Mar 19, 1998 (21:43) * 3 lines 
 
A few of the ones I got
are posted in the poetry conference.
In a topic called Helen Huths poems.


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 112 of 591: Stacey Vura  (stacey) * Thu, Mar 19, 1998 (22:35) * 2 lines 
 
forgive me Paul, I do not know of the woman you speak...
but I will wander over to 'poetry' and see what I can discover.


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 113 of 591: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Thu, Mar 19, 1998 (23:44) * 2 lines 
 
I think you will discover some magic.



 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 114 of 591: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Fri, Mar 20, 1998 (09:08) * 5 lines 
 
Today at 1:55 is the start of Spring!

We should have an online cyberparty!

It's also this Spring's anniversary.


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 115 of 591: wer  (KitchenManager) * Fri, Mar 20, 1998 (10:34) * 1 lines 
 
Yee-haw!!!


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 116 of 591: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Fri, Mar 20, 1998 (10:42) * 1 lines 
 
WooWoo!


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 117 of 591: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Fri, Mar 20, 1998 (12:18) * 9 lines 
 
Our fourth anniversary, since we officially went live on the web on the
exact beginning of Spring four years ago. And this is the tenth
anniversary of the Spring as an organization which started on this date
in 1988.

We'll be live on the web at 1:55 pm today CST if anyone wants to call
in or post something (I'll read it aloud via our realaudio server).




 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 118 of 591: Autumn Moore  (autumn) * Fri, Mar 20, 1998 (14:48) * 1 lines 
 
boing, boing--happy spring!


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 119 of 591: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Mon, Mar 23, 1998 (06:47) * 18 lines 
 
A new topic, number 260 has been started to discuss the potential for
bring the show "My Solitary Elegance" to Austin.

from Karen Hannum (sunflower@well.com):

A friend of mine from England is bringing her show on Jane Austen, "My
Solitary Elegance", to the US for a very limited run. It has enjoyed
a great deal of success in England and Scotland including being
featured on BBC2.

It will be performed in San Franciso from October 2nd-5th at the Jane
Austen Society of North America AGM. She has some open dates from the
6th through the 8th and would be interested in filling these
bookings.

Perhaps at a college or some other venue. If anyone is interested -
please contact me at and I can put you in touch
with her. Thank you...


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 120 of 591: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Mon, Mar 23, 1998 (06:57) * 8 lines 
 
Oh, I didn't mention that this topic is in the austen conference.

I plan on attending the international Jane Austen conference in SF and
promote the Spring's austen conference. Also, I've registered the name

austen.com




 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 121 of 591: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Mon, Mar 23, 1998 (08:37) * 7 lines 
 
Good Will Hunting.

Titantic.

New topics in the movies conference.

Have you seen these? Comment in movies!


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 122 of 591: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Mon, Mar 23, 1998 (22:11) * 3 lines 
 
If you drop in tonight or later on, come by and comment on this years
Oscars in topic 29. Hot. Now.



 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 123 of 591: mike derl  (drool) * Tue, Mar 24, 1998 (18:04) * 10 lines 
 
mikeg, Well without getting long winded you did say the sickness was potentialy
pre-exsisting sickness,. If pot was not illegal people would not get peranoid and annxious. as for impotence, I have aa very high sperm count and am expecting
a strong and healthy baby boy to arrive any day. as for sexual drive well
three times a day doesn't sound like a {decreased sex drive} as you so said.
If you take a trip to Amterdam, you would see that somking hemp,pot,skunk,red hair sinns.,ganja, the bomb, bolo rolo,canabis,canaboid,the huch-cauw,a blunt,
or canabis sativa, mota, purple, blue, green, or gold haired marajajuana,
is not so detrimental to a persons health as you might be lead to beleive by
the Ronald Regan, Nancy Drew (just say noer's} people.
theend
drool...


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 124 of 591: Autumn Moore  (autumn) * Wed, Mar 25, 1998 (23:39) * 1 lines 
 
Funny, I always pictured Nancy Drew for a "Mary Jane" girl....


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 125 of 591: wer  (KitchenManager) * Thu, Mar 26, 1998 (01:47) * 1 lines 
 
I think I saw that movie...


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 126 of 591: Stacey Vura  (stacey) * Thu, Mar 26, 1998 (17:22) * 2 lines 
 
purty graphics!
The visuals almost make up for the ridiculously slow pace through a browser.


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 127 of 591: wer  (KitchenManager) * Thu, Mar 26, 1998 (18:07) * 1 lines 
 
You at home, or a different setup at school?


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 128 of 591: Stacey Vura  (stacey) * Fri, Mar 27, 1998 (04:30) * 5 lines 
 
at home.

and now I'm at home again, up at a ridiculously early hour, suffering from a bad case of insomnia.

*sigh*


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 129 of 591: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Fri, Mar 27, 1998 (08:47) * 7 lines 
 
Did you drink too much caffeine.

I'm in California up at a ridiculously early hour
cause I'm still on Austintime. I'm out here because
my mom's condition is pretty serious. Lung cancer from
years of smoking. She's having an opertion and some
chemo treatmetns this week.


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 130 of 591: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Fri, Mar 27, 1998 (10:34) * 8 lines 
 
good luck, Paul. To you and your mom.
Sounds like nasty stuff, I'll be thinking good thoughts.

No, not too much caffeine.
Rain.
It rains so rarely in Colorado through the winter that when it starts up in Spring it's always too loud for me to sleep. Snow is very quiet coming down *smile*

I wasn't up for too long. The whirr of the computer soon lulled me back to sleep.


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 131 of 591: Mike Griggs  (mikeg) * Fri, Mar 27, 1998 (14:09) * 6 lines 
 
I love the sound of rain when I don't have to get up and go out in it. Lying in my bed at about 5am, the weather lashing against the glass, is one of my favourite times.

And, moving back on topic, the new community I'm involved in developing, Farrawae, seems to have accelerated from an absolute stop to a snail's pace, which means things are happening! You can check out the
website (I encourage you to do so - get a feel for what we're doing!), and then drop into the Farrawae conference to catch up on what's been going on!




 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 132 of 591: wer  (KitchenManager) * Fri, Mar 27, 1998 (16:18) * 1 lines 
 
My best wishes, also, Terry...


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 133 of 591: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Fri, Mar 27, 1998 (17:40) * 6 lines 
 
My big news:


SPRING BREAK!!!
starts now!
all the kiddos are on busses and I'm hankering for a magarita!


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 134 of 591: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sat, Mar 28, 1998 (21:44) * 5 lines 
 
I'm in Walnut Creek with my son watchin' the Final Four and taking care
of mom. Party on Stace.

Where ya goin for break?



 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 135 of 591: orange  (orange) * Sun, Mar 29, 1998 (13:47) * 4 lines 
 
terry, very sorry about the family illness,

i understand now why you have been scarce.
hope everything goes well


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 136 of 591: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sun, Mar 29, 1998 (14:27) * 4 lines 
 
Thanks orange. Mom is doing well. And I'm tripping around with my kid
in SF and Santa Rosa and trying to hook up with some old friends like
fig@well.com



 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 137 of 591: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Mon, Mar 30, 1998 (11:49) * 6 lines 
 
And we're back. We're having problems with the domain change.
Please email terry@spring.net if you notice that our system is down.
And I'll get it back up and running

Sorry for the downtime folks!



 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 138 of 591: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Mon, Mar 30, 1998 (11:50) * 6 lines 
 
Or call 512.303.4000.

Either way. Please let me know if you can't get in!

Terry



 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 139 of 591: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Mon, Mar 30, 1998 (13:37) * 7 lines 
 
Spring Break plans have changed a few times...
first it was going to be Washington DC for a long weekend of museums, Ethiopian food, skating along the Potomac, etc. But since this is Cherry Blossom time, tickets were cost prohibitive.
Then it was going to be four days of primitive camping in Fruita Wednesday - Sunday.
Then it was going to be three days of primitve camping in Arches Nat. Park and Moab Sat - Tues. (Brandon's business travel keeps f***ing everything up!)
BUt NOW it will be Stacey tagging along to Savannah GA w/ B on a consulting job and B taking an extra few days to play around in the garden of good and evil!
I'm excited. And Saturday we biked thru Denver in search of "Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil."
BTW excellent book!


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 140 of 591: Autumn Moore  (autumn) * Mon, Mar 30, 1998 (20:56) * 1 lines 
 
Terry, I too am sorry to hear about your mother's health problems. I'm sure it means a lot to her to have you there. Thanks again for helping me out last night. Enjoy the time you're having with your mom and son.


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 141 of 591: Paul Terry Walhus  (terry) * Tue, Mar 31, 1998 (11:20) * 16 lines 
 
I'm in SF, and having a good time, the system seems to be having a
few glitches every now and then but I emailed our system admin, jeff@www.spring.net about them. I just fixed the date. I notice we're
having our year 2000 problem again.

Yesterday we went and visited Brian Zisk (San Franziskgo website) in SF,
and then met in a little bistro in Mill Valley with Cliff Figallo, who just got a
conference hosting job with Salon. And then out to dinner at a great Thai
place in Santa Rosa. Mom is doing well. And Shey is still beating the pants
off me on the basketball court, it's hard to compete against 6'5" of muscle.

I hope I can keep this system together with band aids till I get back, sorry for any downtime!

The domain name change from spring.com to spring.net will fully take place in the next few days, so please remember our new address is

http://www.spring.net



 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 142 of 591: Paul Terry Walhus  (terry) * Tue, Mar 31, 1998 (11:21) * 5 lines 
 
Or alternatively, it's always:

http://206.97.234.70

In case our name server has fits.


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 143 of 591: wer  (KitchenManager) * Tue, Mar 31, 1998 (16:09) * 1 lines 
 
Like this morning?


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 144 of 591: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Tue, Mar 31, 1998 (17:01) * 7 lines 
 
In the vc.6 topic (Virtual Communities) are details of
Vassilios Koronakis (vassilio@well.com) affair with
Stacy Horn. Some pretty juicy insider stuff about the
doyenne of ECHO by one of its most controversial members.

Sizzzling tale... j vc and read topic 6



 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 145 of 591: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sun, Apr 12, 1998 (23:51) * 20 lines 
 
Myretta emailed me a while ago and said we were down.

So I just rebooted the server. Sorry folks, I been out
doin' nonvirtual stuff today.

In the event you notice you can't get in, please email

jeff@spring.net

and

terry@spring.net

And one of us will get things moving again. Wish I had heard
about this sooner!

I started a coupla new topics in genx. Check 'em out!





 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 146 of 591: wer  (KitchenManager) * Mon, Apr 13, 1998 (08:16) * 2 lines 
 
Sorry, Terry, I thought it was down cause you was grep-ing...



 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 147 of 591: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Tue, Apr 14, 1998 (00:21) * 2 lines 
 
What me grep?



 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 148 of 591: wer  (KitchenManager) * Tue, Apr 14, 1998 (00:43) * 1 lines 
 
Well, I had heard that was the plan...


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 149 of 591: Wolf  (Wolf) * Tue, Apr 14, 1998 (21:25) * 2 lines 
 
terry sorry about helen and your mom, hope she's doing well. live talks? oh my,
not sure if i'm ready for that, everyone thinks i'm a kid when i answer the phone or answer the door-uh, is your mom there? *giggle* please post whenever you plan to have another one *smile*


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 150 of 591: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Wed, Apr 22, 1998 (23:44) * 5 lines 
 
Wanted. Person to drive my Buick Regal (30,000 miles on it) from the SF
Bay area to Austin, Texas. I'll pay $200 and put you up for a week in
Austin free and wine and dine you. Serious about this. I need to get
this car out here.



 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 151 of 591: Stacey Vura  (stacey) * Thu, Apr 23, 1998 (00:55) * 1 lines 
 
So tempted... so tempted...


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 152 of 591: wer  (KitchenManager) * Thu, Apr 23, 1998 (01:09) * 1 lines 
 
What else would it take, Stace?


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 153 of 591: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Thu, Apr 23, 1998 (05:46) * 4 lines 
 
I have several semi-serious inquiries so far but nothing solid. The car
is in Walnut Creek, CA at my moms place. If you could do this Stacey,
that would be great!



 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 154 of 591: Mike Griggs  (mikeg) * Thu, Apr 23, 1998 (18:38) * 2 lines 
 
would you fly me out to SF, too? :-)



 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 155 of 591: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Thu, Apr 23, 1998 (18:44) * 2 lines 
 
Nice try.



 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 156 of 591: Autumn Moore  (autumn) * Thu, Apr 23, 1998 (22:36) * 1 lines 
 
Hey Terry, why don't you get that author whose doing book signings in SF and Austin to do it? :-)


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 157 of 591: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Fri, Apr 24, 1998 (06:15) * 1 lines 
 
Autumn! What a knack for putting things together!


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 158 of 591: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Tue, Apr 28, 1998 (23:49) * 6 lines 
 
Here's a pointer to talk about the NBC miniseries that showed the other night:

Merlin

Find a discussion in topic 17 in 'babes' and in the tv conference.



 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 159 of 591: wer  (KitchenManager) * Wed, Apr 29, 1998 (02:26) * 3 lines 
 
(and just ignore anything I might say in either one...
apparently I am tired past the point of my usual inabiliy
to post coherently...)


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 160 of 591: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Wed, Apr 29, 1998 (08:09) * 4 lines 
 
Just regroup William and take another run at it, because you seem to have
some insight and perception in this area of Arthurian legend (surpassing
that of your knowledge of babe-onomics).



 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 161 of 591: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Thu, Apr 30, 1998 (16:39) * 1 lines 
 
really?????


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 162 of 591: wer  (KitchenManager) * Thu, Apr 30, 1998 (17:36) * 1 lines 
 
Surprised, Stacey?????


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 163 of 591: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Thu, Apr 30, 1998 (23:46) * 17 lines 
 
Gary Chapman asked me a question and a favor.

You have probably heard about the shooting of Texas Monthly writer Jan Reid
down in Mexico City last week. Jan is in the hospital in Houston now,
recovering. (Jan is a friend of Garys.)

A bunch of people in Austin are putting together a fundraiser for him at
the Driskill Hotel on May 9th. Jan can't be there, obviously, because he'll
still be in the Rehab Hospital in Houston.

Gary was wondering is if I knew how we might get a live video feed over
the net to Jan from the Driskill. They're going to check to see if there's a
fast net connection in the hospital itself, but Gary'd like to
investigate how he'd handle his end at the gig.

So I'm volunteering and looking for someone to assist me, someone with a
good on camera presence to interview folks.


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 164 of 591: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Fri, May  1, 1998 (17:21) * 1 lines 
 
yes WER. Surprised (and ticklish!)


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 165 of 591: wer  (KitchenManager) * Sat, May  2, 1998 (02:18) * 1 lines 
 
Back on the tickle contest thing again, are we?


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 166 of 591: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sat, May  2, 1998 (09:42) * 36 lines 
 
In topic 8 in the art conference, Lenadams Dorris vegas@well.com
Enigma is the focus of discussion, visit her website and comment.

Lenadams:
Hello, everyone...I've been pretty absent lately, mostly because my
cafe, the Enigma, has been so terribly busy. We're up to 14 employees now!

We were honored to again win in the 1998 Best of Las Vegas Awards, this
time for "Best Art Scene." Many of you have stopped by to visit when in
Las Vegas, which is wonderful. You may be interested to know that we
are about to celebrate our fifth anniversary, with ten days of art,
music and spoken word events.

I redesigned our web site to bring it all
up to date, and included an ongoing scrapbook of pictures of the Enigma
and its people and things, if you want to get a better idea of what we
look like.

Some of you will remember that on our third birthday in 1996, a lot of
WELLbeings sent postcards to help us celebrate our grand re-opening
after renovations. While many of those cards are still around, many
have been lost to time and careless coffee drinkers.

If any of you are into it, we'd love to get a bunch of new cards from
all over the world (in the scrapbook you can see some of the cards
pasted to the front of the coffee counter...) People love seeing all
the cards, and we love hearing from our far-flung friends.

If you want to send postcards, our address is:
Enigma Garden Cafe (or just "Enigma")
918 South Fourth Street
Las Vegas, NV 89101

Thanks everyone...even when I am not online so much, you are my
extended family who has helped keep me going all these years. Smooch!



 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 167 of 591: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sat, May  2, 1998 (09:59) * 12 lines 
 
In the media conference, linked to the news conference:

Item 30 entered Sat, May 2, 1998 (08:58) by Paul Terry Walhus (terry)
Live from LA, it's suicide on the freeway!

They just has a live broadcast of a freeway suicide in LA, with
closeup shots of someones head being blow off as they popped off a shotgun.

We are at the point where everyone must know everything that's going
on as it happens. Both a new low in journalism and a taste of the
future.



 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 168 of 591: Mike Griggs  (mikeg) * Sun, May  3, 1998 (11:58) * 2 lines 
 
euwwww



 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 169 of 591: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sat, May  9, 1998 (09:03) * 3 lines 
 
Riette is on a roll in philosophy. She's got the scoop on truth, wisdom
and even started up a new topic. Glad to see Riette jumping in to this
little known backwater of the Spring.


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 170 of 591: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sun, May 10, 1998 (06:00) * 2 lines 
 
Riette has taken philoslophy by storm. I think she's a night person!



 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 171 of 591: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sun, May 10, 1998 (14:56) * 2 lines 
 
New topic in travel: England.



 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 172 of 591: Mike Griggs  (mikeg) * Mon, May 11, 1998 (19:54) * 2 lines 
 
wooo hoooo.....i'm pilin' in there!



 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 173 of 591: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Wed, May 13, 1998 (08:23) * 32 lines 
 
Windows Conference: Texas vs. Microsoft

(AG wants to raise campaign funds and keep job. Bolt from sky tells him
he is barking up wrong tree.)

Texas Puts Off Action Against Microsoft (05/12/98; 8:58 p.m. ET) By Kora
McNaughton, TechWeb

Pressure from Texas-based licensees of Microsoft Windows has given pause
to that state's attorney general, Dan Morales, who was expected to file
an antitrust lawsuit against Microsoft later this week.

In a statement issued Tuesday, Morales said, "Before contemplating any
legal action against Microsoft, I feel it is prudent and wise to
personally hear the concerns of our Texas-based companies." Morales will
meet with the Companies over the next few weeks.

Morales said his office has received letters from several Texas computer
executives worried that a lawsuit against Microsoft would "negatively
impact" their companies and the state as a whole.

Morales' postponement of any action is an additional boost for Microsoft,
which won an important victory against the Justice Department Tuesday
when a federal appeals court ruled that Internet Explorer may be bundled
with Windows 98.

Expectations have been building that several state attorneys general and
the Justice Department were readying broad antitrust complaints against
Microsoft, but Morales' statement indicates such lawsuits may not happen
for weeks, if at all.




 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 174 of 591: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Wed, May 13, 1998 (09:46) * 11 lines 
 
The tv conference:

5 19 Seinfeld

Tomorrow night, Thursday, is the Last Seinfeld. Some folks are watching
jsut for the commercials.

The show about nothing is no longer. Just re-runs for here on out.

The cast is going to be on the Tonight Show.



 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 175 of 591: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Thu, May 14, 1998 (22:10) * 18 lines 
 
Daniel Cardenas wrote:

The Justice Conference will focus on topics of criminal justice. Sample
top ics could be Death Penalty v. Life, rehabilitation v. punishment,
juvenile justice, women in prison, ethnic makeup of jails and prisons.
Also could talk about serial killers, famous prisoners now in prison,
current prison cases, laws, crime, statistics, studies, etc.. It could go
into Native American law, white collar crime v. blue collar,
constitutional law. My plan for getting conversation going, is to talk to
friends of mine to signing up, also, since I am new, I havent
participated in any conversat ions yet. Through those conversations, I
could steer people to the Justice conference.

So, now there is a 'justice' conference.

j justice




 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 176 of 591: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sat, May 16, 1998 (12:57) * 11 lines 
 
Austin's still "smokin'". Literally. A surreal pall hangs over us as
smoke blows in from Mexican fires out of control.

Check out topic 28 in the austin conference or topic 7 in the environment
conference (they're crosslinked).

air Austin

The Mexican government procrastinates and the US Governement does a
"study" while Austinites choke.



 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 177 of 591: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sun, May 17, 1998 (11:21) * 4 lines 
 
I hope Riette sticks around, I look forward every day to reading her cool
insights in the philosophy conference.

New in the spirit conference, a topic on the Sufi Order and Sufi dancing.


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 178 of 591: wer  (KitchenManager) * Wed, May 20, 1998 (01:06) * 2 lines 
 
you mean like the Kavadi(sp?)?



 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 179 of 591: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Wed, May 20, 1998 (08:57) * 5 lines 
 
Guess who's back?

Howard Fredrics!

Great!


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 180 of 591: wer  (KitchenManager) * Fri, May 22, 1998 (03:13) * 15 lines 
 
Jim Moss aka Leplep Le Plep is doing his fair share in
Philosophy, also, things are getting quite interesting
in there...

and, this in from Wolf (and edited, a little, of course...):

Hi Wer!!

Dude, thanks for writing me. It's good to hear from familiar folks.
You can write here all the time, I do have regular access to it. As for
the Spring, I do that when I'm not working and won't be on it as often
as before for the time being. It's very very hot here, but it's not too
bad. Drink lots of water and stay cool. Got up to 120 the other day,
whew! But it's a dry heat *laugh*. Talk later, Elke :)
mswolf68@hotmail.com


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 181 of 591: wer  (KitchenManager) * Fri, May 22, 1998 (03:15) * 2 lines 
 
oh, yeah, and I updated the GenX Storybook annex page at
http://www.spring.net/~spew/chap1.html


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 182 of 591: Mike Griggs  (mikeg) * Sun, May 24, 1998 (11:05) * 1 lines 
 
I've just opened a new topic in Spirit, which I would like to link to Philosophy -"Why Christianity is not Religious"


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 183 of 591: wer  (KitchenManager) * Mon, May 25, 1998 (16:54) * 1 lines 
 
But, Christianity is WAY to religious...


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 184 of 591: wer  (KitchenManager) * Mon, May 25, 1998 (19:09) * 6 lines 
 
sorry, I seemed to have lost an o while camping...

how are we gonna go about this semantic wrestling match, Mike?
see you there...




 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 185 of 591: wer  (KitchenManager) * Mon, May 25, 1998 (19:09) * 4 lines 
 
Terry has moved into his new casa, and won't be back on here
full time until his ISDN line gets installed somewhere around
the 4th or 5th of June...(I think, however, he is sneaking
around here tonight)


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 186 of 591: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Thu, May 28, 1998 (21:30) * 4 lines 
 
Yup, dialin' in. My isdn line goes in on the 4th. I'll be havin'
another pool party soon. I'm sittin' here with my notebook by poolside,
with the tv cranked up on the music awards. Swimmin' rockin' out and
lurkin' the Spring a bit.


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 187 of 591: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Thu, May 28, 1998 (21:39) * 6 lines 
 
News conference. Obits.

Phil Hartman of SNL fame. Shot dead, possibly by his wife who killed
herself.




 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 188 of 591: Mike Griggs  (mikeg) * Tue, Jun  2, 1998 (06:06) * 3 lines 
 
I'm sorry I haven't been around much. It's Early Finals time here at Sussex again, which means that I'm studying like crazy (just as I should be now...) I will be around occassionally, but not much. However, after June 25 I will be back, with the trauma of 14 examinations over!!!




 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 189 of 591: Riette Walton  (riette) * Tue, Jun  2, 1998 (07:23) * 7 lines 
 
So, that's where you've been all this time - I was beginning to worry; thought
you got run over by a car or something.
I didn't know you were English; I just love England and Scotland - I go there
at least once or twice a year. It is just so beautiful with the rolling landscapes,
quaint little towns, and the people are incredibly nice. I even married one of them!
Anyway, I hope your exams will be going well, and hope you'll be back more
often after that.


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 190 of 591: Autumn Moore  (autumn) * Tue, Jun  2, 1998 (10:14) * 1 lines 
 
Good luck on your finals, Mike!


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 191 of 591: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Tue, Jun  2, 1998 (15:01) * 2 lines 
 
14 examinations?!?!
how many classes are you taking?


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 192 of 591: wer  (KitchenManager) * Sat, Jun  6, 1998 (12:37) * 8 lines 
 
excuse me, I'm butting in for a second,
the GenX Storybook pages can now be found at
http://www.spring.net/~spew/genxstory/chap1.html
http://www.spring.net/~spew/genxstory/chap2.html

come by and read 'em, puh-leeeze!

now, back to our regularly scheduled conversation...


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 193 of 591: wer  (KitchenManager) * Thu, Jun 18, 1998 (15:23) * 4 lines 
 
The index page is up for the GenX Storybook...it's at
http://www.spring.net/~spew/genxstory/indeX.html

it's kinda graphic intesive, let me know what ya'll think...


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 194 of 591: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Fri, Jun 26, 1998 (15:42) * 15 lines 
 
Thoroughly Modern Jane

This conference is for fiction using Jane Austen characters in
non-Regency settings. Fiction based on Jane Austen and set in her period
is at The Republic of Pemberley

Your host is Carolyn

http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/public/browse/modjane/all

This has been in the works for a while, and the time was ripe to
announce it.

Credit is due to Amy and Myretta, the wonder workers from the Republic
of Pemberly, a board that was incubated right here on the Spring.


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 195 of 591: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Fri, Jun 26, 1998 (15:46) * 8 lines 
 
The announcement is at:

http://www.pemberley.com/pemb/admin/fiction/webbbs/boi.html

and there is a little discussion on the help board at:

http://www.pemberley.com/pemb/admin/help/index.html



 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 196 of 591: wer  (KitchenManager) * Fri, Jun 26, 1998 (15:57) * 3 lines 
 
and if anyone has noticed,
there has been more modjane-ing than firthing lately,
so there's already plenty o' stuff to read...


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 197 of 591: Wolf  (Wolf) * Tue, Jun 30, 1998 (23:26) * 1 lines 
 
ok, i'll ask...what in the heck is modjane?


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 198 of 591: wer  (KitchenManager) * Wed, Jul  1, 1998 (02:52) * 2 lines 
 
Moder Jane Austen...
Jane's characters in modern settings...


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 199 of 591: Riette Walton  (riette) * Wed, Jul  1, 1998 (06:06) * 1 lines 
 
I'll have to start reading her works . . . sounds like fun!


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 200 of 591: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Wed, Jul  1, 1998 (23:40) * 4 lines 
 
Saw a preview for a movie tonight with Jane Austen in the title.
It didn't look like it had anything to do with Jane Austen though.




 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 201 of 591: Riette Walton  (riette) * Thu, Jul  2, 1998 (06:41) * 1 lines 
 
How exiting! A movie with Jane Austen in the title which really has nothing to do with her!


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 202 of 591: Autumn Moore  (autumn) * Sun, Jul  5, 1998 (00:09) * 1 lines 
 
It's really a novel idea when you think about it! The possibilities for future films are endless!


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 203 of 591: Riette Walton  (riette) * Sun, Jul  5, 1998 (02:31) * 1 lines 
 
Jane Austin, pet detective.


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 204 of 591: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sun, Jul  5, 1998 (06:59) * 36 lines 
 
Riette is now set up with host powers in 'art'. Which means she can
customize it to her heart's desire.

More specifically:

The Role of the Conference Host


Each conference has at least one host. The duties of the host vary from
maintenance-only hosting which might involved clearing out old and unused
topics to high-involvement hosting where the host takes an active role in
encouraging and participating in the discussions.
Hosts can help topics stay on the subject, answer questions, and bring up
new subjects. They help new users and lost users. They generally keep
things rolling along in the conference.


Hostly Powers


Hosts can perform the following acts that regular users cannot.

Open the first topic in the conference.
Retire any topic in the conference.
Kill any topic in the conference.
Change the conference header.
Change the bulletin which is a message displayed (if new) once for
everyone.
Change the welcome message which is displayed when someone joins for the
first time.
Change the conference configuration commands.
Change the ulist which is the list of participants' logins.
Change the login message which is displayed when entering the conference.
Change the Logout




 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 205 of 591: Riette Walton  (riette) * Sun, Jul  5, 1998 (17:39) * 1 lines 
 
OOOH, all that power . . . am I allow to tie people up too?


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 206 of 591: Riette Walton  (riette) * Sun, Jul  5, 1998 (18:32) * 1 lines 
 
allowed, that is.


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 207 of 591: Mike Griggs  (mikeg) * Sun, Jul  5, 1998 (20:41) * 2 lines 
 
only if you include me



 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 208 of 591: Autumn Moore  (autumn) * Sun, Jul  5, 1998 (23:30) * 1 lines 
 
"Jane Austen, Pet Detective"--ROTFLMAO!!! Good one, Riette!!


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 209 of 591: Riette Walton  (riette) * Mon, Jul  6, 1998 (04:40) * 3 lines 
 
ha-ha!

Mike, you mean, you've not even noticed that you're already tied to me? Broken arm to broken finger! Which finger? Because if it's your right, then we can make music together! My right hand, your left. You do the cords, I strum. How does that sound?


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 210 of 591: Stacey Vura  (stacey) * Mon, Jul  6, 1998 (14:37) * 1 lines 
 
woo woo! then BOTH of you are still handcuffed to the couch!


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 211 of 591: Riette Walton  (riette) * Mon, Jul  6, 1998 (17:28) * 1 lines 
 
So we're tied to one another AND the couch? This is getting complicated. Now all we need is for you and Wer to join us, and we'll be a Spring Quartet!


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 212 of 591: Mike Griggs  (mikeg) * Tue, Jul  7, 1998 (20:07) * 1 lines 
 
lol :) nice pun, riette :)


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 213 of 591: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Tue, Jul  7, 1998 (22:40) * 17 lines 
 
I changed the Spring's base href tag to "http://www.spring.net/
by adding the trailing /

Check out the website and see if it's working in your browser, if you
care to. Is the picture refreshing automatically every 60 seconds like
it is supposed to do?

We're building a new server soon. I just ordered a CD-R to use for
backing up our present system. Should be here tomorrow or the next day.

Spring party here the 18th, hope all the local springeurs can make it by,
even ok for wer to drop in late after work. We should still be jammin'

Everyone, please invite someone you know or don't know to join our
conversation! Let's start growing incrementally!

Back to the All Start game.


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 214 of 591: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Tue, Jul  7, 1998 (22:41) * 2 lines 
 
Start sb Star.



 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 215 of 591: Riette Walton  (riette) * Wed, Jul  8, 1998 (01:58) * 3 lines 
 
Holland is out of the World Cup!!!!!!

YAAAAAA-HOOOOOOOOO!!!


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 216 of 591: Mike Griggs  (mikeg) * Wed, Jul  8, 1998 (16:12) * 1 lines 
 
you're happy? i was gutted. they were the only non-cheating team left in. now Brazil, and their team of professional divers, will win.


 Topic 8 of 102 [porch]: The Spring as a whole and pointers to other topics
 Response 217 of 591: nick a'hannay  (pmnh) * Wed, Jul  8, 1998 (16:17) * 2 lines 
 
("professional divers"???
what does this mean?)


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