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Topic 129 of 177: what's the worst way you'd like to watch someone die?

Sun, Dec 20, 1998 (03:19) | IAOM (wer)
and why?
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 Response 1 of 91: Riette Walton  (riette) * Sun, Dec 20, 1998 (16:01) * 1 lines 
 
In his sleep. It would be so boring.


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 Response 2 of 91: T Patrick McCourt  (PT) * Sun, Dec 20, 1998 (16:53) * 3 lines 
 
Definitely, burning to death. It is so slow and painful. I don't know if I'm
understanding this properly. That is the worst way I can conceive of someone
dying. I really would pass on watching, thanks.


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 Response 3 of 91: slight taste of additional instructions  (KitchenManager) * Sun, Dec 20, 1998 (22:59) * 4 lines 
 
what is the most horrible death that you'd be willing
to watch, and why would you like to watch?

(sorry, sometimes I should try to be clear instead of succinct...)


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 Response 4 of 91: Riette Walton  (riette) * Mon, Dec 21, 1998 (05:41) * 1 lines 
 
Hollywood film deaths are pretty entertaining.


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 Response 5 of 91: T Patrick McCourt  (PT) * Mon, Dec 21, 1998 (16:12) * 2 lines 
 
I would have to say the electric chair. I have seen illegal films made of actual
executions and it looks fascinating. And the person has to die that way anyway.


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 Response 6 of 91: The World's Smallest Lummox  (CotC) * Thu, Dec 31, 1998 (18:21) * 7 lines 
 
Dunno. What's my motivation for watching this death? Entertainment? Academic interest? The watchee's been fucking [with] my kid?

Entertainment: Putting the victim in one of those big, spinning-drum amusement park rides and turning it up to eleven.

Academic Interest: Blowing the victim out of an airlock into empty space. I've always wondered about the whole blood-boiling-away-before-body-explodes-in-a-big-poof-of-freeze-dried-corpse-dust thing.

As to the last, I'll get back to you if I ever have to find out...


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 Response 7 of 91: rlysr  (rlysr) * Sun, Aug 29, 1999 (19:27) * 1 lines 
 
tie him down, look him in the eyes, ampules of ammonia in each nostril, and tear small strips of skin off layer by layer.....reminding him of all the wrongs he's committed against me with each strip of skin.....this should take a few days.


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 Response 8 of 91: Wolf  (wolf) * Sun, Aug 29, 1999 (20:51) * 3 lines 
 
ohmygod! how disgusting a topic is this? i would never want to watch someone die!

and rlysr (how do you pronounce that exactly?), you sound like you've got this all planned out. got anyone in mind?


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 Response 9 of 91: John Burnett  (mrchips) * Mon, Aug 30, 1999 (00:26) * 1 lines 
 
I'm a Vietnam veteran and can't imagine that anyone who has actually watched another person die would want to repeat the experience. Someone has watched too many movies.


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 Response 10 of 91: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Mon, Aug 30, 1999 (00:33) * 1 lines 
 
Oh God, John, I am sorry...Welcome home and thanks for getting on with your illustrious life. I cannot imagine, either.


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 Response 11 of 91: John Burnett  (mrchips) * Mon, Aug 30, 1999 (00:35) * 1 lines 
 
I don't care if my life is illustrious or not. If I can figure out some way to keep paying the bills, boring is just fine, thank you.


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 Response 12 of 91: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Mon, Aug 30, 1999 (00:42) * 1 lines 
 
I understand completely. Welcome to Hilo! I hope we can make it at least interesting for you...*smile*


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 Response 13 of 91: rlysr  (rlysr) * Mon, Aug 30, 1999 (08:44) * 2 lines 
 
My named is pronounced " rillis". R is the first letter in my last name. I thought this was a topic on the worst way to watch someone die. It is not something I would personally ever participate in. I read about it in an autobiography. Perhaps I should refrain from posting in what appears to be a private conference.



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 Response 14 of 91: Stacey Vura  (stacey) * Mon, Aug 30, 1999 (10:28) * 4 lines 
 
rlysr, please don't be offended away...
you certainly hit bang on topic, which is something few of us are able to manage on a regular basis...
I must agree, that is one of the worst ways I care to think of and, honestly, considering the title of the topic, I don't think any post would be pleasant to read...
btw, did you get that from Silence of the Lambs?


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 Response 15 of 91: rlysr  (rlysr) * Mon, Aug 30, 1999 (12:03) * 4 lines 
 
Thank you for making me feel welcome.After posting, and feeling like I had offended people, I was not going to return...
I read that in a book about 10 years ago, and don't remember the title right though. It's driving me crazy not to be able to recall it !!! The book was a paperback picked up in an airport gift shop. It gave me the willies for days.I am not a violent person, or particularly into crime books.....just had a long flight & the book jacket caught my eye.
Silence of the Lambs was certainly full of shocking things, the skin jacket was pretty hideous.
Are new folks welcome at most conferences ?


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 Response 16 of 91: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Mon, Aug 30, 1999 (12:16) * 1 lines 
 
New folks are always welcome. We were all new, once! Welcome *amile*


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 Response 17 of 91: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Mon, Aug 30, 1999 (12:17) * 1 lines 
 
That should read *Smile*... and you would not consider doing what you said...would you?! (...and who has not entertained such ideas when infuriated?)


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 Response 18 of 91: rlysr  (rlysr) * Mon, Aug 30, 1999 (12:41) * 2 lines 
 
I would never consider that.....it was just the most horrible thing I had ever heard of, of doing that to someone. I can't think of anyone I would wish that on.
Some of the coastal Native Americans had a unique way of torturing captives. They were buried in sand up to their neck at low tide and left to Mother nature. I remember reading that as a child and thinking it must be the most awful way to die. I would never let my siblings bury me in the sand during summer holidays in Florida !!!


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 Response 19 of 91: Riette Walton  (riette) * Mon, Aug 30, 1999 (12:52) * 1 lines 
 
ha-ha! I remember wanting to do that EXACT same things to my siblings a few times! Welcome to the Spring, rlysr. Do you have anything pronouncable we can call you???


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 Response 20 of 91: Stacey Vura  (stacey) * Mon, Aug 30, 1999 (15:24) * 12 lines 
 
rlysr...
I AM quite the fan of horror/murder/mystery novels.
They always care the bejesus outta me but...
can't put 'em down...
"Hannibal" is the sequel to "Silence of the Lambs"... equally as shocking... or more so...
Brett Easton Ellis however, really hit my tolerance level though...
I read "American Psycho" nearly ten years ago... I still remember scenes VIVIDLY...
spooky $hit!

Of COURSE you're welcome to wander around...
check out the other conferences at will!



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 Response 21 of 91: Stacey Vura  (stacey) * Mon, Aug 30, 1999 (15:24) * 3 lines 
 
Ree-head...
talk about pornouncable names!
*grin*


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 Response 22 of 91: Stacey Vura  (stacey) * Mon, Aug 30, 1999 (15:25) * 5 lines 
 
damn...
I MEANT PRO-nouncable...
not the former...
oops!
*giggle*


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 Response 23 of 91: Wolf  (wolf) * Mon, Aug 30, 1999 (17:41) * 3 lines 
 
was that a freudian slip, my dear?

rlysr, you weren't offensive, just actually staying on topic, what a concept!! you got that stuff out of a book? geeze louise!! well, i'm glad about that, it's better than being something you dreamt up *grin*


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 Response 24 of 91: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Mon, Aug 30, 1999 (17:46) * 1 lines 
 
But, who's the guy you wanted to exact this terrible stuff on? Or is that in the book too? I never read that stuff - life is scary enough for me...!


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 Response 25 of 91: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Mon, Aug 30, 1999 (17:48) * 1 lines 
 
...and I think Stace had it right the first time. Killing/torturing someone is the very essence of evil and as such it is pornography in the rawest sense.


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 Response 26 of 91: Riette Walton  (riette) * Tue, Aug 31, 1999 (03:37) * 1 lines 
 
Stacey, you read Hannibal?? I saw a review of it in the Sunday Telegraph - it looked absolutely GROCE! Is it worth reading?


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 Response 27 of 91: Alexander Schuth  (aschuth) * Tue, Aug 31, 1999 (04:23) * 18 lines 
 
Death.

And dying.


Now these - thanks for pointing this out, John - are not very nice things. I used to work in a hospital, and always had some elderly people that I used to look after a bit more often . You know, when I was on that floor, just pop in the room, etc., hold their hands, help them being moved, talk and listen to them - nothing special, just regular, normal things. Bringing the blood samples to the lab, wondering perhaps how anybody with blood as yellow and thick as you would sometimes see could still be alive
t all (you know, the hepatitis- and liver-damage cases with yellow eyes, etc.).

Need I say that these people were dying slowly, most of them? Illnesses and age, and they went sometimes easily, and sometimes violently. For the latter case, I'll spare you the graphic details.-

Anyhow, I never actually sat besides a person that died. Never. Never want to, but who knows? Perhaps one day, I will have to. And be strong enough not to burden the other with my emotions, and help coping with pain and fear. In the hospital, I had to take the bodies from the rooms to the morgue, and would ocasionally help laying them in their coffins, too, whenever the undertaker came to fetch them. Do the last things I could do, not seldom for people I had known to check in and out of the hospital for y
ars, had helped to take care of them.

Death is an absurde and grotesque thing, even if doesn't come in violent doses. And it is natural and a fact of life. It is not something I wish to encounter, no matter in what form. It is something I cannot evade, though. Even if it's not somebody else, one day, it'll be my turn to go and embrace my decay. And until then, every day brings me nearer, as I age and use up my time. I would not want to see this, or even live through it. But I do, and I will make the best of it.-



Hello Rlys R.! Welcome to the Spring - you sure made a splash, and I'm looking forward for more to come...


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 Response 28 of 91: Stacey Vura  (stacey) * Tue, Aug 31, 1999 (13:28) * 10 lines 
 
Yep Ree-head... I enjoyed the story
Descriptions are often pretty grotesque but I developed a real affection for Hannibal Lecter. In the first book, the audience wasn't made aware of the details of his crimes beyond the gory superficial... but 'Hannibal' was brilliant, truly brilliant with greying the line between admiration and horror.
The people who 'get it' seem to me to deserve it and I fell in love with the ending... which is something I can rarely say about a horror/psycho thriller.

Alexander...
my fascination with horror novels strongly opposes my often irrational vacillation between fear of death and acceptance. Until I was 23 years old, I refused to walk into a cemetary. Wouldn't walk in. As if death were catching or something. I'm terrified of skeletons, so I proclaimed (at the age of eleven) that I intended to be creamated, I don't want to resemble death for even a short period of time, nevermind eternity (or whatever the half life of calcium is...)
I respect your statement above... especially the last paragraph...
And I think it will take me a lifetime to come to terms with the fact of death.





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 Response 29 of 91: Wolf  (wolf) * Tue, Aug 31, 1999 (17:54) * 3 lines 
 

my brother worked in a hospital as part of his stint in the army. he told me about moving a woman he had talked to. she died on the gurney as he was transferring her. i felt so terribly for him.

death is not the gory thing. it is a natural part of life. but what's gory, is sitting here wishing bad things on other people. that's sad, sick, and horrid. remember that what you wish on someone will come back to you ten fold.




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 Response 30 of 91: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Tue, Aug 31, 1999 (18:07) * 1 lines 
 
Thanks for saying that - it is important to realize the difference between someone's fiction writing for profit, and another's perverse ideas of putting them into practice. Can we get off this topic...Please?!


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 Response 31 of 91: John Burnett  (mrchips) * Tue, Aug 31, 1999 (21:04) * 1 lines 
 
Alex...thanks for putting this topic into its proper perspective and Marcia for crystallizing the essence of this (debate?) (discussion?) (debacle?) into a single sentence.


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 Response 32 of 91: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Tue, Aug 31, 1999 (21:10) * 1 lines 
 
I do wish its creator would come and "kill" (unfortunate word used to delete the topic) this. Any time would be excellent...the sooner the better!


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 Response 33 of 91: Elena  (Elena) * Wed, Sep  1, 1999 (04:08) * 5 lines 
 
It has been interesting, though.
I have been told that especially for Americans, death is a taboo. Sure looks like it, if you want to kill the topic!!
The question of wanting to see someone die is very good and I understand it as great irony. Wasnīt it 200 or 2000 murders and deaths per week that we see in the tv and as if that wasnīt enough, we devour horror and detective stuff with killings and cruelties, let alone all the news stories about them. People want to see people killed in various ways, thatīs a fact.
Probably because unlike generations before us, we donīt need to encounter death or dying very often in real life. Still we have this strong need to deal with it because itīs the ultimate mystery, even more incomprehensible than birth. It has become something "absurd and grotesque" in our minds, which it really is not.



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 Response 34 of 91: Riette Walton  (riette) * Wed, Sep  1, 1999 (07:37) * 1 lines 
 
Elena, here I thoroughly agree with you. The greatest cause of our fear of Death is ourselves; and the fact that we don't treat it with respect - it has become a sensationalized spectacle. I think being born must be at least as painful as dying; but we see it as a miracle, because we know what happens after being born. We cannot think the same way about something that is a mystery to us, and therefore we are superstitious. That is understandable, of course. But why turn it into such a show?


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 Response 35 of 91: Alexander Schuth  (aschuth) * Wed, Sep  1, 1999 (08:14) * 9 lines 
 
Hey, I want to be bold to! I mean, use bold letters!

Death is okay. I lived above a coffin-storage of an undertaker's place for years, also next door to my favorite cemetary for years, and visit cemetaries whereever I travel. The customs with which the people treat their dead are very interesting, as are the decorations of the sites they put them.

And it is no horror to have to handle a dead person. But it sets something straight in your head, something people who haven't experienced this might not understand. The effect is especially strong if there you knew the deceased.

It's the dying.

(Elena! How nice to meet you here again! And how right you are - the fact that nobody experiences death anymore secondhand - like killing stock on a farm, or a grandparent liveing in the same house, etc. - makes much difference. But to me, still, death IS absurde and grotesque. Why this person and not that? Why this way and not another? Now, not later? Stupid and silly questions, but these are my feelings. It is stupid, silly and nonrational, but then, nonrational is how I am...)


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 Response 36 of 91: Alexander Schuth  (aschuth) * Wed, Sep  1, 1999 (08:17) * 3 lines 
 
(...not to mention other things.)

The dying, the idea of pain, loss of options and souvereignity over oneself. Fortunately, both my grandfathers had not hard struggle, so my options are good that it won't be as bad as it can get (provided no illness or accident slips in first).


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 Response 37 of 91: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Wed, Sep  1, 1999 (10:19) * 2 lines 
 
I have no objection to the discussion as it is going now. I was extremely offended by the thought of someone plotting to terminate another's life with
as much pain as possible to avenge wrongs or some such reason. Perhaps, since this is not my topic, I should just stay out of the discussion. Go to it. Encourage carnage on upon each other of the irate and deranged. Heaven help us all!


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 Response 38 of 91: rlysr  (rlysr) * Wed, Sep  1, 1999 (13:43) * 7 lines 
 
Hello all,
The easiest way to pronounce my name is "rillis". Thank my hippy parents.
I never intended to offend by posting. It was an autobiography book, and I was horrified by that death scene.
I read a wide variety of books, including horror. I generally avoid true crime books, preferring fictional horror.
My job for most of my life has included working with very ill people. I think it's a rewarding career to help someone have a "good" death. By that I mean a peaceful, dignified passing. Sometimes all that is necessary IS a kind attendant, family or professional, to hold a hand and speak gently. I was with my grandfather for weeks as he died. Towards the very end, he was not often lucid, but when he was, he believed that he was surrounded bu friends, doing things he loved doing. The last three days of his l
fe, he was building a house "in a beautiful meadow". He would wake up and look me in the eye, and tell me "look out honey, I dropped a nail" or he would ask for a tool. In his mind he was there in his meadow building his home.....I was very saddened by his death, but comforted to know I was with him building his house.
I am a sensitive, loving person. Is there a conference anyone could suggest for me to start over, let you all know I am not a bloodthirsty killer - LOL !! ??


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 Response 39 of 91: Elena  (Elena) * Wed, Sep  1, 1999 (13:48) * 6 lines 
 
Marcia, donīt stay away!....I know what you mean, this first looked like a topic from hell and Iīm glad that Alexander and Wolf brought it back to reality.

(Alexander)And it is no horror to have to handle a dead person. But it sets something straight in your head
Yes, exactly. Itīs hard to describe what happens in your mind in a situation like that. It makes you face reality in a new way. Thereīs some sort of great dignity in a dead person and it makes you understand something important about life and yourself and people around you.
And for me an experience like that meant that I started to really seriously dislike violence as entertainment in movies and books.



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 Response 40 of 91: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Wed, Sep  1, 1999 (14:10) * 5 lines 
 
rlysr, there is Geo...totally devoid of anything nasty but full of fun graphics...it is my baby.
http://www.spring.net/yapp-bin/restricted/browse/geo/all


and there is poetry, and paraspring, collecting, books, news, tv and all sorts of fun places to read and post. Feel free to wander =)


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 Response 41 of 91: Alexander Schuth  (aschuth) * Wed, Sep  1, 1999 (14:46) * 5 lines 
 
Welcome again Rlys, to the show that never ends... The Five Ring Circus... The Biggest Show on Earth!

If you please, take a peek at music... Food is cool (food always is, right?)... And for serious stuff, we have InternationalConflicts, which lays a bit dormant right now... but could use insightful attention.

Your grandfather did not have a bad death; I am happy for both of you. These things, as more people here obviously know from experience than I thought, can come in worse qualities...


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 Response 42 of 91: Stacey Vura  (stacey) * Wed, Sep  1, 1999 (14:51) * 7 lines 
 

Do you like to eat?
come play in the 'food' rillis.


The bestest thing about this place is you don't need to 'start over' or explain yourself... you get to just be.

sme people will like it... some people may not... but we'll all respect your honesty and interest!




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 Response 43 of 91: Stacey Vura  (stacey) * Wed, Sep  1, 1999 (14:52) * 2 lines 
 
nothing like having a typo when you're using Huge blue type face!



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 Response 44 of 91: John Burnett  (mrchips) * Wed, Sep  1, 1999 (14:54) * 1 lines 
 
I do not fear death or dying. I have come to terms with my own mortality. But the only time I have seen human death, it has been of the violent variety. I have the utmost respect for nurses, physicians, orderlies, hospice volunteers, and others, whom I believe, as part of their job descriptions (whether local laws in U.S. jurisdictions agree with me or not), are charged with seeing the dying and especially the suffering, pass on with as much comfort and dignity as is possible.


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 Response 45 of 91: Alexander Schuth  (aschuth) * Wed, Sep  1, 1999 (16:08) * 3 lines 
 
Hiya, John, mark me up for ex-orderlies (though orderly is not what I am)... Hey, and I respect DJs! And radio-folks!

Stacey, "And I think it will take me a lifetime to come to terms with the fact of death" , that is the wittiest thing that was said here, and that is what life is all about.


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 Response 47 of 91: John Burnett  (mrchips) * Wed, Sep  1, 1999 (16:17) * 2 lines 
 
Hiya, Alex, thanks! Stacy, you have hit on something important. Maybe when explaining the "facts of life" to youngsters (hard enough for some parents), there should also be a conversation about the "facts of death." I love the scene in Patch Adams when Robin Williams (Patch) connects with the mean-tempered terminal cancer patient by death word association: buying the ranch, kicking the bucket, becoming worm food, achieving room temperature, headin' for the last roundup, etc. Having a laugh
about it somehow takes it out of the realm of the occult and mysterious and humanizes it.


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 Response 48 of 91: John Burnett  (mrchips) * Wed, Sep  1, 1999 (16:18) * 1 lines 
 
Sorry for misspelling your name, STACEY!


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 Response 49 of 91: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Wed, Sep  1, 1999 (17:23) * 4 lines 
 
Thank you THANK YOU THANK YOU! John
for the apology and then the correction!
Silly as it may sound, the mispelling of my name is one of my BIGGEST pet peeves!
You are indeed forgiven!


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 Response 50 of 91: John Burnett  (mrchips) * Wed, Sep  1, 1999 (17:26) * 1 lines 
 
I humbly and gratefully accept your forgiveness. People have the right to have their names spelled correctly. Especially when they are sitting in front of me in black and white, and considering that I am not dyslexic.


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 Response 51 of 91: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Wed, Sep  1, 1999 (17:30) * 1 lines 
 
it is so loud in here
(closing the 'big' tags as I go...)


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 Response 52 of 91: John Burnett  (mrchips) * Wed, Sep  1, 1999 (17:34) * 1 lines 
 
and the BOLD ones, as well...The Bold Ones! (E. G. Marshall?)


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 Response 53 of 91: Wolf  (wolf) * Wed, Sep  1, 1999 (17:37) * 2 lines 
 

the man for whom i wrote a poem (the man that i know), died after struggling with cancer for 6 months (at least when he knew he had it). he shriveled up and whenever one individual would visit him, he would swear she brought her "son" with her. He would comment that he'd never met him before. He also said he was dressed up and smiling and waving. i believe it was an angel coming to comfort him. because the lady that visited often comforts the sick and lonely and is a devout christian (and a wonde
ful woman, to boot!), it was only natural that the "boy" would come in with her. as i heard, ron died in peace in his sleep. God bless him!


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 Response 54 of 91: Wolf  (wolf) * Wed, Sep  1, 1999 (17:38) * 1 lines 
 
and let me close out that tag *grin*


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 Response 55 of 91: John Burnett  (mrchips) * Wed, Sep  1, 1999 (17:40) * 1 lines 
 
What a touching story, Wolf...


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 Response 56 of 91: rlysr  (rlysr) * Wed, Sep  1, 1999 (20:40) * 1 lines 
 
ok , my last time here !! I'll be seeing you in new places. Food, philosophy, and music sound pretty good.....thanks !


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 Response 57 of 91: John Burnett  (mrchips) * Wed, Sep  1, 1999 (20:47) * 1 lines 
 
See you there, Rlys


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 Response 58 of 91: Riette Walton  (riette) * Thu, Sep  2, 1999 (02:44) * 1 lines 
 
I thought her earlier posting was rather amusing in the context of screwed. I think we overreacted, for no reason whatever, since ALL of us came up with rather ghastly ways to make people kick the bucket, and should apologize. Not a nice way to treat a newcomer.


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 Response 59 of 91: Riette Walton  (riette) * Thu, Sep  2, 1999 (02:46) * 1 lines 
 
After all, it was US who created the topic. If we didn't like it, we should reprimand ourselves.


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 Response 60 of 91: Marcia  (MarciaH) * Thu, Sep  2, 1999 (18:57) * 1 lines 
 
Valid argument, but she was being specific as to why she was participating in it - I do not recall anyone else being so fiemdish about it...perhaps I over-reacted.


 Topic 129 of 177 [screwed]: what's the worst way you'd like to watch someone die?
 Response 61 of 91: Wolf  (wolf) * Thu, Sep  2, 1999 (20:49) * 1 lines 
 
so rlysr, so does your first name begin with r too? how come you don't just spell rlysr as rizzer? and did you bring isabel with you?


 Topic 129 of 177 [screwed]: what's the worst way you'd like to watch someone die?
 Response 62 of 91: Isabel  (Isabel) * Fri, Sep  3, 1999 (13:19) * 1 lines 
 
No, she didn't. Keep guessing! (hehehe)


 Topic 129 of 177 [screwed]: what's the worst way you'd like to watch someone die?
 Response 63 of 91: Wolf  (wolf) * Fri, Sep  3, 1999 (17:56) * 1 lines 
 
no need.....


 Topic 129 of 177 [screwed]: what's the worst way you'd like to watch someone die?
 Response 64 of 91: John Burnett  (mrchips) * Sat, Sep  4, 1999 (06:22) * 88 lines 
 
Thanaptosis

To him who in the love of Nature holds
Communion with her visible forms, she speaks
A various language; for his gayer hours
She has a voice of gladness, and a smile
And eloquence of beauty, and she glides
Into his darker musings, with a mild
And healing sympathy, that steals away
Their sharpness, ere he is aware. When thoughts
Of the last bitter hour comes like a blight
Over thy spirit, and sad images
Of the stern agony, and shroud, and pall,
And breathless darkness, and the narrow house,
Make thee to shudder and grow sick at heart;-
Go forth, under the open sky, and list
To Nature's teachings, while from all around-
Earth and her waters, and the depths of air-
Comes a still voice-Yet a few days, and thee
The all-beholding sun shall see no more
In all his course; nor yet in the cold ground,
Where thy pale form was laid, with many tears,
Nor in the embrace of ocean, shall exist
Thy image. Earth, that nourished thee, shall claim
Thy growth, to be resolved to earth again,
And, lost each human trace, surrendering up
Thine individual being, shalt thou go
To mix forever with the elements,
To be a brother to the insensible rock
And to the sluggish clod, which the rude swain
Turns with his share, and treads upon. The oak
Shall send his roots abroad, and pierce thy mould.

Yet not to thine eternal resting-place
Shalt thou retire alone, nor couldst thou wish
Couch more magnificent. Thou shalt lie down
With patriarchs of the infant world-with kings,
The powerful of the earth-the wise, the good,
Fair forms, and hoary seers of ages past,
All in one mighty sepulchre. The hills
Rock-ribbed and ancient as the sun-the vales
Stretching in pensive quietness between;
The venerable woods-rivers that move
In majesty, and the complaining brooks
That make the meadows green; and, poured round all,
Old Ocean's gray and melancholy waste-
Are but the solemn decorations all
Of the great tomb of man. The golden sun,
The planets, all the infinite host of heaven,
Are shining on the sad abodes of death,
Through the still lapse of ages. All that tread
The globe are but a handful of the tribes
That slumber in its bosom.-Take the wings
Of morning, pierce the Barcan wilderness,
or lose thyself in the continuous woods
Where rolls the Oregon, and hears no sound,
Save his own dashings-yet the dead are there:
And millions in those solitudes, since first
The flight of years began, have laid them down
In their las sleep-the dead reign there alone.
So shalt thou rest, and what if thou withdraw
In silence from the living, and no friend
Take note of thy departure? All that breathe
Will share thy destiny. The gay will laugh
When thou art gone, the solemn brood of care
Plod on, and each one as before will chase
His favorite phantom; yet all these shall leave
Their mirth and their employments, and shall come
And make their bed with thee. As the long train
Of ages glide away, teh sons of men,
the youth in life's green spring, and he who goes
In the full strength of years, matron and maid,
The speechless babe, and the gray-headed man-
Shall one by one be gathered to thy side,
By those, who in their turn shall follow them.

So live, that when thy summons comes to join
The innumerable caravan, which moves
To that mysterious realm, where each shall take
His chamber in the silent halls of death,
Thou go not, like the quarry-slave at night,
Scourged to his dungeon, but, sustained and soothed
By an unfaltering trust, approach thy grave,
Like one who wraps the drapery of his couch
About him, and lies down to pleasant dreams.

--William Cullen Bryant, 1811



 Topic 129 of 177 [screwed]: what's the worst way you'd like to watch someone die?
 Response 65 of 91: Elena  (Elena) * Sat, Sep  4, 1999 (07:32) * 6 lines 
 
Thanks, John.

Iīve always felt that living close to nature helps people to accept death and even big pain without fear, as a natural part of life. The endless cycle of birth and death in nature makes the human agony about death look very selfish. Every living thing has its time, longer or shorter.
We humans tend to feel that weīre an exception of some kind among all living things just because of our larger brains, and that makes us protest against inevitable and perfectly normal things like ageing and dying.
The problem is that weīre the only creatures on this planet who KNOW that there is a thing called death! Other creatures just live and then the living ends, no grief or "why me, why now" questions.



 Topic 129 of 177 [screwed]: what's the worst way you'd like to watch someone die?
 Response 66 of 91: Isabel  (Isabel) * Sat, Sep  4, 1999 (15:56) * 1 lines 
 
(Wolf: Already found out about me or just not nosy enough? I didn't want to seem unfriendly,though. I'm just another nosy "lurker" who decided to have her "coming out"... :-)


 Topic 129 of 177 [screwed]: what's the worst way you'd like to watch someone die?
 Response 67 of 91: Riette Walton  (riette) * Sat, Sep  4, 1999 (16:05) * 1 lines 
 
Oh, GOOD!!


 Topic 129 of 177 [screwed]: what's the worst way you'd like to watch someone die?
 Response 68 of 91: Isabel  (Isabel) * Sat, Sep  4, 1999 (16:16) * 1 lines 
 
Yoohoo, Riette!


 Topic 129 of 177 [screwed]: what's the worst way you'd like to watch someone die?
 Response 69 of 91: John Burnett  (mrchips) * Sat, Sep  4, 1999 (17:54) * 1 lines 
 
Welcome Isabel, and Rlys too, if we haven't scared you away. Thanks for your commentary on what I think was a wise poem about death and our bodies "recycling" and replenishing Nature. Hard to believe, but Bryant was only 17 years old when he wrote that poem. The editor he sent it to thought it was a hoax from some established British poet, but it was just a portent of poetic greatness.


 Topic 129 of 177 [screwed]: what's the worst way you'd like to watch someone die?
 Response 70 of 91: Wolf  (wolf) * Sat, Sep  4, 1999 (18:11) * 7 lines 
 
at first, i didn't realize it belonged here! but you picked a great place to post it, john!

with the anonyminity of the internet and cyberspace, isabel, you could be anyone we imagine you to be or you imagine yourself to be. but one thing neat about the spring, we may use pseudonyms, but everyone knows who we are for the most part.

so where are you from isabel? rizzer?

oh, i'll go first, i'm the bayou babe everyone talks about *grin*


 Topic 129 of 177 [screwed]: what's the worst way you'd like to watch someone die?
 Response 71 of 91: John Burnett  (mrchips) * Sat, Sep  4, 1999 (18:38) * 1 lines 
 
Thanks for the poetic confirmation, Wolf. Although it appears that your second remark is directed at Isabel--I couldn't be anonymous posting in the same conferences as Marcia. She knows me.


 Topic 129 of 177 [screwed]: what's the worst way you'd like to watch someone die?
 Response 72 of 91: John Burnett  (mrchips) * Sat, Sep  4, 1999 (18:42) * 1 lines 
 
Elena, didn't mean to leave you out. Your remarks are thoughtful, and I believe, right on the money.


 Topic 129 of 177 [screwed]: what's the worst way you'd like to watch someone die?
 Response 73 of 91: Insomniac  (Isabel) * Sat, Sep  4, 1999 (18:57) * 6 lines 
 
Thanks for your kind welcome. Can't sleep, because of a bad cough. Shouldn't smoke that much... so i'll wander around in Spring, "lurking" a bit more...


Have to think a little who I am, or who I want to be...

Pooh, This sounds too brooding, usually I'm not!


 Topic 129 of 177 [screwed]: what's the worst way you'd like to watch someone die?
 Response 74 of 91: John Burnett  (mrchips) * Sat, Sep  4, 1999 (19:04) * 1 lines 
 
"Pooh"? Sounds like a stuffed bear, to me!


 Topic 129 of 177 [screwed]: what's the worst way you'd like to watch someone die?
 Response 75 of 91: Isabel  (Isabel) * Sat, Sep  4, 1999 (19:27) * 1 lines 
 
Should have sounded like a deep breath or something... I make funny noises sometimes ;-)


 Topic 129 of 177 [screwed]: what's the worst way you'd like to watch someone die?
 Response 76 of 91: Wolf  (wolf) * Sat, Sep  4, 1999 (21:14) * 1 lines 
 
don't we all?


 Topic 129 of 177 [screwed]: what's the worst way you'd like to watch someone die?
 Response 77 of 91: Alexander Schuth  (aschuth) * Sun, Sep  5, 1999 (05:10) * 5 lines 
 
So - welcome Isabel, welcome Bayou Babe!

"Stuffed Bear" - wonder what Riette makes of this... "Ain't nothing wrong with being a stuffed bear, only they got so glassy eyes!" Heck, looks like I *don't* even need anybody to comment for me, I get my own simultaneous subtitles...

Noises - and you can bet I don't make funny noises! NEVER! My noises are well-thought up, serious and respectfully executed non-verbal audible communications. I MUST insist!


 Topic 129 of 177 [screwed]: what's the worst way you'd like to watch someone die?
 Response 78 of 91: John Burnett  (mrchips) * Sun, Sep  5, 1999 (05:19) * 1 lines 
 
My noises are usually meticulously planned and perfectly executed, but once I ate an entire bag of olestra potato chips. So much for the best laid plans of mice and men...the noises I made shot right up to #1 on the chart...the FART CHART!


 Topic 129 of 177 [screwed]: what's the worst way you'd like to watch someone die?
 Response 79 of 91: Riette Walton  (riette) * Sun, Sep  5, 1999 (08:37) * 3 lines 
 
Alexander, have I just caught you openly admitting to being a Steiff?? Is that in every sense of the word, or just the ones that look the same? °blush° You do succeed in surprising me pleasantly at times.




 Topic 129 of 177 [screwed]: what's the worst way you'd like to watch someone die?
 Response 80 of 91: Alexander Schuth  (aschuth) * Sun, Sep  5, 1999 (09:39) * 3 lines 
 
Happy to do the latter... But don't you react freudian to anything that moves around here -- OOooops, this IS Screwed, after all, so it's alright, I guess...

Naw, me no Steiff - see, I don't have a button on my earlobe...


 Topic 129 of 177 [screwed]: what's the worst way you'd like to watch someone die?
 Response 81 of 91: Riette Walton  (riette) * Sun, Sep  5, 1999 (10:50) * 3 lines 
 
I don't react freudian to this wallpaper, which reminds me of .... oh bugger, I do!! Bring your ear closer so I can have a better lick ... sorry, LOOK. Hmmm, nope, you're right. It's not a button, it's a hole ... no, no, a MOLE! ooh, This is like Christmas....




 Topic 129 of 177 [screwed]: what's the worst way you'd like to watch someone die?
 Response 82 of 91: Isabel  (Isabel) * Sun, Sep  5, 1999 (10:58) * 1 lines 
 
Riette, never do a psychoanalysis - the therapist would get a nervous breakdown (plus a wet ear!).


 Topic 129 of 177 [screwed]: what's the worst way you'd like to watch someone die?
 Response 83 of 91: Alexander Schuth  (aschuth) * Sun, Sep  5, 1999 (11:49) * 1 lines 
 
haha! The poor guy! "I never had a chance, officer! She said all these things, and then she came close, and - waaaah!"


 Topic 129 of 177 [screwed]: what's the worst way you'd like to watch someone die?
 Response 84 of 91: Riette Walton  (riette) * Sun, Sep  5, 1999 (13:36) * 3 lines 
 
Thanks for the advice, Isabel - I shall heed it under every imaginable circumstance!

... and then she came close, and - waaah! Can you keep me locked up until she's gone?'


 Topic 129 of 177 [screwed]: what's the worst way you'd like to watch someone die?
 Response 85 of 91: Isabel  (Isabel) * Sun, Sep  5, 1999 (13:45) * 1 lines 
 
hehe...


 Topic 129 of 177 [screwed]: what's the worst way you'd like to watch someone die?
 Response 86 of 91: Stacey Vura  (stacey) * Wed, Sep  8, 1999 (11:30) * 2 lines 
 
glad to see that we have degenerated even further into the screwed abyss...
thought we were getting a mite too serious there for awhile!



 Topic 129 of 177 [screwed]: what's the worst way you'd like to watch someone die?
 Response 87 of 91: Riette Walton  (riette) * Wed, Sep  8, 1999 (13:56) * 1 lines 
 
Occasionally we try serious - somehow it never lasts very long thoug, does it??? ha-ha!


 Topic 129 of 177 [screwed]: what's the worst way you'd like to watch someone die?
 Response 88 of 91: John Burnett  (mrchips) * Wed, Sep  8, 1999 (14:01) * 6 lines 
 
CORONER'S INQUEST.

CAUSE OF DEATH: Drool from earlobe seeping into inner ear and corroding brain cells, causing subdural hematoma.


Whatever that means...


 Topic 129 of 177 [screwed]: what's the worst way you'd like to watch someone die?
 Response 89 of 91: Wolf  (wolf) * Wed, Sep  8, 1999 (21:44) * 1 lines 
 

isn't a hematoma a bruise?

any doctors in the house????


 Topic 129 of 177 [screwed]: what's the worst way you'd like to watch someone die?
 Response 90 of 91: Isabel  (Isabel) * Thu, Sep  9, 1999 (06:53) * 2 lines 
 
Ask your brain-specialist "Dr. Isabel"!
You're right, on your skin a hematoma is something like a bruise. In the head a hematoma is a clot of blood, it may cause apoplectic strokes, or if it is squeezing on the brain, it does severe damages to the braincells, like outfall symptoms of hole brain areas, often irreversible.


 Topic 129 of 177 [screwed]: what's the worst way you'd like to watch someone die?
 Response 91 of 91: Riette Walton  (riette) * Fri, Sep 10, 1999 (02:46) * 1 lines 
 
Very appropriate to the topic! OUCH!

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