Topic 12 of 83 [sports]: Major League Baseball '96
Response 8 of 47: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sun, Dec 15, 1996 (04:02) * 3 lines
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Response 9 of 47: Ginger Coplan (ginger) * Sat, Jun 14, 1997 (21:10) * 1 lines
Good comments Josh!
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Response 10 of 47: John Burnett (mrchips) * Sun, Oct 24, 1999 (19:18) * 3 lines
I'm sorry that this category has the caveat '96 in it, and I'm equally sorry that it's been over two years since anyone posted in a baseball category. I have to admit to shedding tears while watching the All-Century team introductions tonight before Game 2 of the 1999 World Series. I am also shocked at the uncalled-for prosecutorial tone taken by NBC's interviewer to one Peter Edward Rose, one of those selected by fans to be on the All-Century team, and the greatest pure hitter who ever lived. Baseball
is the great American game, our national pastime, but contrary to the postulate of Field of Dreams, it is not perfect. From the segregated status of the majors in the first half of this century, which will never be fully made up for, to the continued travesty of the exclusion of Rose and "Shoeless" Joe Jackson from the Hall of Fame, the game is marvelous, but somewhat shy of perfect. But with the introduction of such luminaries as Rose, Ted Williams, Willie Mays, Hank Aaron, and Stan Musial, I fo
nd myself unable to control the outpour of my emotions.
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Response 11 of 47: Marcia (MarciaH) * Sun, Oct 24, 1999 (19:27) * 1 lines
Amen John!!! Truer words were never spoken - trite as it sounds, and the emotions were shared by at least one other Hilo resident. I have been a baseball fan forever (But, you knew that!) and the way they have handled Pete Rose is nothing short of a travesty. It is as dishonest as they proclaim him to be. Have you seen any of the greats play in person?
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Response 12 of 47: John Burnett (mrchips) * Sun, Oct 24, 1999 (20:38) * 5 lines
I've seen many great baseball players. I went to many games at Wrigley as a child. When I was quite young, the Cubs had Ernie Banks, Ron Santo, Billy Williams, and Lou Brock. Cubs and White Sox fans are almost mutually exclusive, but my uncle Ernie (not Banks) took me to a Yankees-White Sox game in 1964, where I caught a foul ball off the bat of Phil (Harmonica) Linz. Players in that game included Luis Aparicio for the White Sox and the vaunted 1964 Yankees, who signed my ball, including Mickey Mantle
Roger Maris, Yogi Berra, Clete Boyer, Bobby Richardson, Elston Howard, Whitey Ford (who pitched), and Tony Kubek. Visitors to Wrigley that I've seen play included Pete Rose, Johnny Bench, Joe Morgan, Maury Wills, Willie Davis, Sandy Koufax, Don Drysdale, Don Sutton, Willie Mays, Willie McCovey, Orlando Cepeda, Juan Marichal, Bobby Bonds, Lou Brock (coming back to haunt us after being traded to the Cardinals), Stan Musial, Ken Boyer, Bob Gibson, Tim McCarver, Steve Carlton, Hank Aaron, Eddie Mathews, Lou
Burdette, Joe Adcock, Nolan Ryan, Dick Allen, and Richie Ashburn. I also got to see Satchel Paige with a barnstorming team when I was a kid. Satch was in his late 50s and was playing a local semipro team, but my parents had told me stories about him as long as I can remember, so I was impressed that the old man had enough guile to pitch three innings and retire all nine of the local yokels he faced. When I was the P.A. announcer for the Hawaii Islanders, I saw both Tony Gwynn (a gentleman and a scholar
and Barry Bonds (a horse's ass) play on a daily basis. And I've seen some pretty fair players while they were still playing college ball: Joe Carter Tyler Green and Darren Dreifort(Wichita State); Jeromy Burnitz (Oklahoma State); Glenn Braggs and Scott Karl (UH-Manoa); Will Clark, Rafael Palmeiro and Bobby Thigpen (Mississippi State); Roberto Kelly (Arizona State); Benny Agbayani (Hawaii Pacific University and of course, our late lamented Hilo Stars); and in the Hawaii Winter League: Gabe Kapler (West O
hu Canefires), Onan Masaoka (Waiakea H.S. & Hilo Stars), Jason Giambi (Honolulu Sharks), and Japan's "Pete Rose", five-time Central League Batting Champion Ichiro Suzuki (Hilo Stars). I've been blessed to be able to see that many good to great players in person.
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Response 13 of 47: Marcia (MarciaH) * Sun, Oct 24, 1999 (20:58) * 1 lines
Wow! That is amazing - and I thought I was going to amaze you! Before I was born (I cannot be that old!) I went to the Polo Grounds and watched the Pennant winning NY Giants play the Brooklyn Dodger and actually beat them for once. I got a ball signed by the entire team (which my mother threw away)- so I saw some of the same players as you did! I was a huge NY Giants fan - and was heart-broken when they went to San Frnacisco...!
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Response 14 of 47: Marcia (MarciaH) * Sun, Oct 24, 1999 (20:59) * 1 lines
Oh yes, Did you know that Ray's father's cousin was Honus Wagner?!
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Response 15 of 47: John Burnett (mrchips) * Sun, Oct 24, 1999 (22:02) * 2 lines
In the immortal words of Johnny Carson "I did not know that!" What a shame about the ball. I have mine wrapped in saran in a safe deposit box. It looks like the day it was signed. Lucky me. Hey seeing the Giants and the Bums at the Polo Grounds is impressive. And of course Russ Hodges' call of Bobby Thomson's home run off Ralph Branca "the Giants win the pennant! (x4)" is immortal. Ernie Harwell is working ESPN radio for the playoffs and World Series this year. He must be pushing 80, but is still
mazing.
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Response 16 of 47: John Burnett (mrchips) * Sun, Oct 24, 1999 (22:07) * 1 lines
And when the Giants moved to San Fran, our beloved Les Keiter wrote a big chapter of his own legend doing S.F. Giants recreates for the Big Apple.
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Response 17 of 47: Marcia (MarciaH) * Sun, Oct 24, 1999 (22:08) * 2 lines
Incredible memories.. I was watching the game before a piano lesson and when Bobby Thonpson hit the home run I was totally out of control (for me) - my piano teacher sent me home...! I can still hear him saying what he said over and over and over - it had been so long in coming. Leo Durocher was Giants Manager at that time and I thought he was wonderful! (He behaved back then!) You are keeping your precious ball in precisely the right conditions. Most excellent!
(was that whose voice it was - it has been MANY years since I heard him...!)
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Response 18 of 47: Marcia (MarciaH) * Sun, Oct 24, 1999 (22:12) * 1 lines
When Les was guest speaker at the annual Vulcan Booster dinner Ray bought me his book and I had his sign it and we discussed the polo Grounds and such...it was fun! Have you read it?
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Response 19 of 47: John Burnett (mrchips) * Sun, Oct 24, 1999 (23:22) * 1 lines
Yes. I emceed that night and Les signed a copy for me as well.
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Response 20 of 47: Marcia (MarciaH) * Sun, Oct 24, 1999 (23:33) * 1 lines
...now that you mention it...Indeed he did! Fascinating speaker because he spoke of things I knew first hand. I think it was the only time that has happened with a guest speaker of any kind...He attended some of the same events I attended. I found that remarkable!
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Response 21 of 47: Marcia (MarciaH) * Sun, Oct 24, 1999 (23:35) * 1 lines
Who better than you to have been the EmCee?! The more I think of it - it just HAD to be! At the Yacht Club...I remember it well!
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Response 22 of 47: Marcia (MarciaH) * Mon, Oct 25, 1999 (14:55) * 1 lines
Early this morning as I was trying to awaken in the 5am dark I was listening to the Jay Mariotti (Sp?) show on the Honolulu station which carries him. He was defending Jim Gray (Sp?)who did that terrible interview with Pete Rose. Not a single caller in about 2 hours of my listening on and off (from 3am on)agreed with Mariotti and all thought the interview a fishing expedition - just as you did, John. I think this will not go away quietly. I hope it does not, anyway!
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Response 23 of 47: Marcia (MarciaH) * Sat, Jan 22, 2000 (22:39) * 2 lines
Well, I was asked about college baseball, and until there is a topic for it I will use the MLB topic. It was great to be out in the sun (finally!) with the new scoreboard working (finally!) and old friends and fans around me again. I watched the softball game against the alumnae while I listened to John do play-by-play for the baseball game going on a few miles away. We lost that game against U San Diego. I will get to see them play again Monday evening. My favorite time to watch a game. Let's see.
Boiled peanuts and boiled soybeans are the order of the day and I shall have mine. If it gets cold I shall have some hot saimin. Ummm!!! Can't wait!
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Response 24 of 47: Marcia (MarciaH) * Sat, Jan 22, 2000 (22:40) * 1 lines
Goodness...I forgot to say who "we" are. The University of Hawaii at Hilo Vulcans is who we are.
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Response 25 of 47: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Thu, Dec 26, 2002 (05:34) * 21 lines
That old Beatles song "Yesterday" has a line in it "I'm not half the man I used to be".
That's Kirby Puckett, who is taking a huge hit:
Two days after she caught Kirby on the phone with the mystery woman, Tonya claims, Kirby threatened in a phone call that he "was going to kill me." Tonya told the private investigator, who advised her to call the Edina police so there would be a record of her allegation. When she did, six days later, on Dec. 21, 2001, Tonya gave police an account of the latest incident and laid out a pattern of violent behavior by Puckett — although none of it recent — over the course of their marriage, according to the police report.
Tonya Puckett cried as Kirby announced his retirement from baseball in a 1996 news conference. He revealed he had glaucoma in his right eye. FILE PHOTO
She told of Kirby putting a cocked gun to her head as she held their then-2-year-old daughter.
She told of Kirby trying to strangle her with an electrical cord.
She told of Kirby locking her in the basement.
She told of Kirby using a power saw to cut through a door.
http://www.twincities.com/mld/pioneerpress/4754100.htm
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Response 26 of 47: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Wed, Oct 20, 2004 (08:38) * 3 lines
Do the Red Sox have to win the world series to break the curse?
Or do they just have to beat the Yankees tonight?
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Response 27 of 47: zx6rider (zx6rider) * Wed, Oct 20, 2004 (18:12) * 5 lines
I think they have to do both. Not being a native I'm not altogether sure.
I'm thinking it might be fun to have a Red Sox - Astros Series though.
That whole Kerry (RedSox) - Bush (Astros) thing. Maybe (if it comes about) they should have a "gentleman's bet". Whoever wins gets the White House... sure would save listening to all that TV propaganda crap.
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Response 28 of 47: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Thu, Oct 21, 2004 (06:09) * 3 lines
Well, the Red Sox are one step closer to breaking the curse of Babe Ruth, began when they traded away Babe Ruth to the Yankees, what, about a hundred years ago?
It might be fun but I still gotta root for my Cardinals!
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Response 29 of 47: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Thu, Oct 21, 2004 (09:14) * 14 lines
NY choke: Priceless: Epic collapse worth every million
By Karen Guregian
Thursday, October 21, 2004
NEW YORK - For $185 million, Yankees owner George Steinbrenner bought himself what amounts to the lowest, most dubious place in baseball history.
Yes folks, for the largest payroll on the planet, the Boss purchased what will now be considered the greatest collection of chokers ever assembled, as last night, the House of Pain turned into the House of Shame.
The Yankees couldn't save themselves. They couldn't keep the egg from being splattered all over their faces. They couldn't avoid being the first team in Major League Baseball to ever surrender a three-games-to-none series lead.
from
http://redsox.bostonherald.com/redSox/view.bg?articleid=50120
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Response 30 of 47: zx6rider (zx6rider) * Thu, Oct 21, 2004 (10:59) * 9 lines
Hah! Maybe George has finally learned you can't buy love. Tee-hee.
Though I love NYC, Steinbrenner has always made me gag.
Oh! Terry... I researched the Curse of the Bambino. It refers to the Red Sox inability to beat the Yankees in the playoffs after the Red Sox owner sold Babe Ruth to the Yankees for enough money to finance No No Nanette.
The Curse is now broken...
On to the Series!
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Response 31 of 47: zx6rider (zx6rider) * Sat, Oct 23, 2004 (17:28) * 3 lines
Game 1 of the series tonight; Boston vs St Louis in Boston.
Thoughts... bets... cheers or jeers?
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Response 32 of 47: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sun, Oct 24, 2004 (07:50) * 1 lines
Man what an odeal for St. Louis. The game went in to the wee hours and finally the Red Sox got a 2 run homer to cap it. High scoring. Boston holds serve.
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Response 33 of 47: zx6rider (zx6rider) * Sun, Oct 24, 2004 (09:21) * 7 lines
I have never watched so much baseball as I have in the last 2 weeks. I'm not even a fan... but when in Boston, yada yada.
My housemate even got me a RedSox cap so I can truly fit in and feel the spirit.
I played fastpitch softball for yrs (catcher) and I find my self calling the strikes and balls before the umpire, causing my roomies to think me psycic.
Preparing for another long night of baseball... gonna need a nap today.
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Response 34 of 47: Yvette Faulkner (bayouvetty) * Sun, Oct 24, 2004 (09:35) * 3 lines
Must be exciting to be in Beantown these days? People up here in Maine are, of course, all pumped up! (since we are too small and lame to have a MLB team of our own)
GO SOX!!
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Response 35 of 47: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Mon, Oct 25, 2004 (09:15) * 1 lines
Go Cardinals! How exciting to see the team of my boyhood in St. Louis in the World series. They're going to have to deliver at home now.
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Response 36 of 47: zx6rider (zx6rider) * Mon, Oct 25, 2004 (17:43) * 5 lines
Question?
Why, all of a sudden are the pitchers gonna bat? I thought it odd that they didn't, but I'm out of touch with the intricacies of pro ball... I figured they're paid all those dollars for doing their "specialty".
Anyway... what's the scoop on this? Anybody got a rulebook?
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Response 37 of 47: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Tue, Oct 26, 2004 (10:37) * 1 lines
Depends o which home balpark they're in since the NL and AL have different rules. One has DH and the other doesn't. One league makes 'em bat and the other league allows designated hitters.
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Response 38 of 47: zx6rider (zx6rider) * Tue, Oct 26, 2004 (10:41) * 1 lines
ahhh... uniformity in sports. gotta love it!
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Response 39 of 47: zx6rider (zx6rider) * Wed, Oct 27, 2004 (07:12) * 4 lines
Sox 3... Cardinals ZIP. One more game to win boys and girls!
If it happens tonight, these baseball crazed new englanders i'm surrounded by will have a joyous meltdown.
Sox doing well, Patriots doing well, Bruins... oh yeah, there is no hockey (they don't feel they make enough money I guess), and then there's the Celtics. Not sure if there's any hope for them. Oh well, 2 teams out of 4 ain't bad!
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Response 40 of 47: wing nut (wingnut) * Wed, Oct 27, 2004 (10:26) * 1 lines
Go sox!
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Response 41 of 47: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Thu, Oct 28, 2004 (06:12) * 1 lines
Wow, the curse is over.
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Response 42 of 47: zx6rider (zx6rider) * Thu, Oct 28, 2004 (07:52) * 3 lines
Yup... I don't know what the Boston fans will do now. They've been so cynical and miserable for the last 86 yrs.
Hey! Maybe now the weather will improve; the interest rates will fall; the war will end; the hungry will be fed; Kerry will win ;-)
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Response 43 of 47: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Fri, Oct 29, 2004 (10:35) * 1 lines
What a chain reaction!
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Response 44 of 47: zx6rider (zx6rider) * Fri, Oct 29, 2004 (10:55) * 3 lines
I heard somebody say (before Kerry did), That Kerry had as much a chance of winning as the Red Sox had do winning the ALC penant/World Series.
Well...
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Response 45 of 47: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Fri, Oct 29, 2004 (11:34) * 2 lines
Kerry was pumped. And wearing a Red Sox hat on the evening news last night.
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Response 46 of 47: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Thu, Jan 27, 2005 (03:07) * 3 lines
The bottom line is the bat of Kevin Millar [stats, news] is worth more than the glove of Doug Mientkiewicz [stats, news], regardless of whether Mientkiewicz is still holding on to the final out of the 2004 World Series.
http://redsox.bostonherald.com/redSox/view.bg?articleid=65428
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Response 47 of 47: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Fri, Oct 14, 2005 (07:53) * 51 lines
The NYT's George Vescey:
Denkinger blew a call at first base, costing the Cardinals the sixth
game of the 1985 World Series. Rich Garcia didn't see a 12-year-old
turn Derek Jeter's descending fly into a crucial home run in the 1996
A.L.C.S. And Joe West was unnecessarily officious in calling the
Yankees' Robinson Cano out for swerving slightly out of the base line
to avoid running over the Angels' first baseman during the division
series this year.
Even before the White Sox scored the winning run Wednesday night, we
were all adding Doug Eddings to that list. Fox showed all the different
angles of the third strike, and not once did I detect the ball hitting
the dirt. (MLB Supervisor of Umpires) Steve Palermo, however, said he
saw one angle that indicated the ball had changed direction.
"Inconclusive," Palermo said, using a term football officials use
after instant replay when they cannot see conclusive proof that they
were wrong. Palermo said he takes in the occasional Chiefs game in the
owner's suite in Kansas City.
"Stevie, was he right or wrong?" his friends ask during those tedious
instant-replay huddles. Even though he roots for the Chiefs, Palermo
usually finds himself agreeing with the original call on the field.
"Inconclusive," Palermo often decides. "Then I tell them why they
called it that way."
Although hockey, basketball, college football, soccer and tennis are
all going at least slightly electronic - and baseball monitors the
strike zone with technology - Palermo does not want instant replay in
his sport. Bud Selig, the commissioner who calls himself a
traditionalist, is on record as not wanting instant replay. Most
players and managers accept the occasional error in judgment by an
umpire because they respect the high percentage of accuracy.
All over America, Doug Eddings is getting grief for displaying a mild
form of the punch-out signal used to signal a strikeout. Palermo said,
however, if first base is open, or there are two outs, the umpire still
signals a strikeout but is not supposed to indicate whether the batter
is out or alive. "If the catcher tagged the batter, the umpire would
have said, 'Now you're out,' and done a double pump," Palermo said.
"If the ball gets loose from the catcher, we don't point to where it
is," Palermo said. And if a runner leaves third base too soon on a fly
ball, the umpires silently observe and wait to see if the fielders
appeal the call.>
Source:
http://select.nytimes.com/2005/10/14/sports/baseball/14vecsey.html
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