via The WELL's conference on Virtual
Communities.
I have been a lifelong philosopher. Even taught philosophy at San
Francisco State University for a while. Socrates was my model of a
great teacher: using dialogue to get to the meat of life.
So it is quite a natural thing for me to find myself in the prime
media of dialogue in the world -- virtual communities.
I could say a lot more more. But I don't like to fill up screens with text.
I wait.
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Response 28 of 105: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Tue, Nov 4, 1997 (12:32) * 3 lines
Welcome Americ, have you done the tour of conferences yet. Any thoughts
on how we could make your entry easier or more interesting?
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Response 29 of 105: Americ Azevedo (americ) * Wed, Nov 5, 1997 (13:02) * 5 lines
I am kind of a random explorer.
Does html work in this environment.
bold
Does this system recognize web links?
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Response 30 of 105: Americ Azevedo (americ) * Wed, Nov 5, 1997 (13:04) * 2 lines
Can I go to http://www.well.com/~americ
or to GoldWarp?
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Response 31 of 105: Americ Azevedo (americ) * Wed, Nov 5, 1997 (13:07) * 1 lines
Or, just go to www.barra.com
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Response 32 of 105: Americ Azevedo (americ) * Wed, Nov 5, 1997 (13:07) * 1 lines
I am happy!
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Response 33 of 105: KitchenManager (KitchenManager) * Wed, Nov 5, 1997 (15:02) * 9 lines
The easiest way for links is to put the
whole address down with the http:// just
like you did.
Colors also work, as does font sizes.
I've also seen people link in images.
Haven't tried much else myself.
WER
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Response 34 of 105: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Wed, Nov 5, 1997 (15:49) * 4 lines
Images require brackets
img src="http://www.spring.com/~terry/cap.jpg"
like the above.
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Response 35 of 105: Americ Azevedo (americ) * Fri, Nov 7, 1997 (18:47) * 1 lines
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Response 36 of 105: Americ Azevedo (americ) * Fri, Nov 7, 1997 (19:23) * 2 lines
Myself:
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Response 37 of 105: Brian D. Castelli (gud) * Fri, Nov 7, 1997 (22:23) * 6 lines
Hey, nice picture Americ.
What's up everybody? My name is Brian Castelli and I am 22 years old. I am a fifth year senior at the University of Michigan. I am currently taking a Communications class in which we are discussing vc's (I just read that article in Wired on "The Well"), and it's some interesting stuff. I think they are a great forum for unbiased (given and recieved) ideas, in the fact that we are represented by our minds and nothing else. You know, like that MCI commercial...connecting Intelect. Cheesey cause it's a
commercial, but fascinating in the break down of race and gender barriers and all stereotypes of that sort. Just minds communicating ideas and nothing else!
Whatd' ya think?
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Response 38 of 105: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sat, Nov 8, 1997 (00:39) * 3 lines
How'd you hear about the Spring? In the class? I'd be
interested in hearing more about this class and what they're
covering.
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Response 39 of 105: Me (KitchenManager) * Sat, Nov 8, 1997 (01:57) * 5 lines
I'll be listening, too, so talk
away.
WER
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Response 40 of 105: Brian D. Castelli (gud) * Sat, Nov 8, 1997 (21:39) * 2 lines
The class is title Communications 464, Communication Processes and Technologies. It's goal is to help us gain some perspective on the influences that our rapid transition to the Digital Age will have on almost every aspect of society. We also discuss what effects these new technologies are likely to have on the human condition: on sense of identity as individuals, on how we form and regulate our communities (which is where vc's come in) and how our nation and world function politically, socially, econom
cally, and so on. It's extermely interesting, and I believe that it's a great idea to get America's youth in-tune with the impact that this new medium is going to have on us, not just in this country but globally as well.
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Response 41 of 105: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sat, Nov 8, 1997 (22:06) * 1 lines
Which online communities have you discussed in your class?
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Response 42 of 105: Brian D. Castelli (gud) * Sat, Nov 8, 1997 (22:15) * 1 lines
We were required to read "The Well" from the May edition of Wired Magazine. So we've talked about that one extensively, and we have a link to Howard Rheingold's Links to virtual Worlds, on the class Web site. That page has a link to Spring, ad that's how I came across you guys. I've never participated in an online community before, and I wanted to check it out and see what it was all about. How would you define the community you have set up here? Is there a lot of history behind Spring?
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Response 43 of 105: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sun, Nov 9, 1997 (02:03) * 5 lines
There's quite a bit, and I've begun to expound it some in a topic in
the Austin conference. History that is. We've been through 3 years now
and three versions of conferencing software: springtalk, caucus and now
the yapp software.
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Response 44 of 105: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sun, Nov 9, 1997 (02:07) * 8 lines
How would we define this? That's tough. We seem to be inventing
ourselves as we go along. I can pin a definition that will stick, as
the folks here will move this whatever direction they want. I guess
I would define this as a flexible infrastructure for discussions and
collaboration. The 'community' tag could be debated. I would hope that
we evolve in that direction. I feel a definite sense of community with
some of the folks here now and I try to get the community of folks I
know in Austin to join here also.
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Response 45 of 105: Americ Azevedo (americ) * Sun, Nov 9, 1997 (19:44) * 8 lines
Brian -- Sounds like your class was similiar to one that I thought at Golden Gate University titled "BeingWired, Being". We had 8 students. We
started out being half face-to-face and half online. By the end we were
most online (using WELL Engaged software). We created about 300 pages
of online text discussions. One of the most rewarding experiences of
my teaching life. And, yes, everyone was required to read WIRED which
include the article regarding The WELL. You can find some of the notes
for the class at http://internet.ggu.edu/~aazevedo/beingwired.
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Response 46 of 105: Brian D. Castelli (gud) * Sun, Nov 9, 1997 (20:08) * 3 lines
Thanks Americ, I'll check it out! I think that the off-line communication probably led to a richer on-line community. Was this true?
Terry, I think that the Spring is well on its way to becoming a community. What about its evolution leads you to believe that its not already? Does it differ from the WELL in the fact that its not as tightly knit? What steps do you plan on taking to guide it?
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Response 47 of 105: Brian D. Castelli (gud) * Sun, Nov 9, 1997 (20:55) * 1 lines
Wow Americ! I dig the Web Site (especially the orange background)! The class you tought seems similar, but we aren't required to be on-line. I think that the way you went about it is a much better approach. It would seem to get the students much more in touch with the medium you were discussing. I like the idea of cyberclass! You definitely took it to the next level, with your discussions on-line. I wish that our professor would have had some of the same ideas.
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Response 48 of 105: Mike Griggs (mikeg) * Thu, Nov 13, 1997 (07:53) * 1 lines
I like the idea of a class being taught on-line -- excitement!!
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Response 49 of 105: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Thu, Nov 13, 1997 (13:49) * 1 lines
sounds like a lot of initiative needed -- I like to learn by osmosis.
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Response 50 of 105: Brian D. Castelli (gud) * Fri, Nov 14, 1997 (00:36) * 1 lines
It wouldn't really be that tough, you just need the right tools. Besides, osmosis never works for me!
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Response 51 of 105: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Fri, Nov 14, 1997 (11:09) * 1 lines
Well, beyond the tools... the hardest part for me would be managing my time effectively enough to make the class a priority. I work better under peer pressure *smile*
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Response 52 of 105: wer (KitchenManager) * Fri, Nov 14, 1997 (11:19) * 1 lines
Oh, if that had been aimed at me...
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Response 53 of 105: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Fri, Nov 14, 1997 (13:10) * 1 lines
(LOL) I'm sure you could find a way to redirect it!
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Response 54 of 105: wer (KitchenManager) * Fri, Nov 14, 1997 (15:33) * 3 lines
I have enough problems with self
disillusionment, sweetie, but
thanks just the same. *wink*
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Response 55 of 105: Americ Azevedo (americ) * Sun, Nov 16, 1997 (13:31) * 4 lines
Thanks for your interest in the being "BeingWired, BeingHuman" class.
I think I will open up a topic regarding this within the
conference here in The Spring. I am even link some of my own student
here into The Spring.
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Response 56 of 105: Americ Azevedo (americ) * Sun, Nov 16, 1997 (13:35) * 5 lines
Just above I was saying that I will open
a BeingWired, BeingHuman topic in the "Philosophy"
conference. (I put "<" brackets around the word
but everything disappeared from the post.)
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Response 57 of 105: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sun, Nov 16, 1997 (23:45) * 3 lines
Looking forward to seeing some of your students and other
compatriots make the journey to Spring someday!
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Response 58 of 105: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Mon, Nov 17, 1997 (11:16) * 1 lines
Hope you're still in that newly groovy state -- even if it is a temporary farce. Half our battles are a state of mind.
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Response 59 of 105: Americ Azevedo (americ) * Mon, Nov 17, 1997 (13:50) * 4 lines
Yep! Half the battle are a state of mind.
Sometimes, the best question is just to ask:
"What's my state, now?" May not be that groovy,
but at least it raises us to _self-knowledge_.
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Response 60 of 105: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Tue, Nov 18, 1997 (12:27) * 1 lines
And probably the most frightening answer to that question is "I don't know." It means you've truly lost touch with yourself or the ability to listen to your inner workings.
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Response 61 of 105: Americ Azevedo (americ) * Tue, Nov 18, 1997 (21:24) * 9 lines
Well...perhaps just to pay attention
to the mystery of one's state of mind
is an answer.
Mostly, there are no words to discribe
any state of mind.
Words are so approximate.
If I were a poet, I might be more
optimistic about words.
But the fail me all too often.
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Response 62 of 105: Stacey Vura (stacey) * Wed, Nov 19, 1997 (12:23) * 1 lines
In certain situations or on a regular basis, IYO?
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Response 63 of 105: Americ Azevedo (americ) * Fri, Nov 28, 1997 (13:20) * 1 lines
What does IYO stand for?
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Response 64 of 105: Mike Griggs (mikeg) * Fri, Nov 28, 1997 (13:26) * 1 lines
In Your Opinion?
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Response 65 of 105: wer (KitchenManager) * Fri, Nov 28, 1997 (14:53) * 1 lines
That would be it.
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Response 66 of 105: Americ Azevedo (americ) * Fri, Nov 28, 1997 (16:40) * 8 lines
Well...there....your words (IYO) and mine...did fail
for a moment
but
we were able to recover
with each others help
this is so much better than reading books
where we don't get to ask the author
for a re-write on the spot!
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Response 67 of 105: Simon Turner (SimonT) * Thu, Dec 4, 1997 (17:05) * 8 lines
Hi
I'm Simon from Brighton UK. We are interested in setting up a conference facility for Brighton UK, not disimilar to this. One of the first questions I'd like to ask is "what software is generally the best?".
We have looked at Hylafax and also COW (Conferencing on the Web) which seems quite good and has the added benefit that it's free.
Motet doesn't seem (in the few seconds I had to look at it) to offer any more.
Can anyone here recommend any good conferencing software?
The software used here seems OK but might have some bugs (ie I seem to be logged on 3 times and the guy I'm with doesn't seem to be logged on at all).
Anyway, I'll drop in and see what'sgoing on tomorrow. Till then..... goodnight!
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Response 68 of 105: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Thu, Dec 4, 1997 (22:06) * 4 lines
Why don't you invite your folks to use the Spring for a
while as an incubator, and that way you can see Yapp conferencing
software in action and get things moving in the here and now.
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Response 69 of 105: Mike Griggs (mikeg) * Fri, Dec 5, 1997 (15:56) * 9 lines
Well, the problem is that we more than likely will not be using Yapp
software. Therefore, if we invite a group of people here, and then
subsequently want to change software on them, that wouldn't be much fun.
Our enterprise is significantly different from the Spring, in that there
will be a (nominal) charge for usage, and we will be predominantly based
in the Brighton area.
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Response 70 of 105: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sat, Dec 6, 1997 (08:58) * 3 lines
You are welcome to use the Spring servers to create a prototype.
We'll even build a machine for you.
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Response 71 of 105: Mike Griggs (mikeg) * Sat, Dec 6, 1997 (10:11) * 4 lines
The hardware isn't in fact the problem! Simon Turner is part of
Virtual Brighton, who have plenty of servers etc. to get it up and
running. I'm gonna move this convo to the topic I opened on it!
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Response 72 of 105: Nickoalai S (nike) * Thu, Jan 22, 1998 (11:31) * 15 lines
hi
ey, a guy from Brighton, I was actually thinking about taking a train down there and have a look
at the beach...
Well I have one more free week after my exams over here, so maybe
Ill check it out...
It's funny, how everybody thinks about a something he or she differnetly,
I saw a response earlier on in this topic of somebody asking what
vc could mean, and funnily the first thing I thought about was
Victoria Cross (something I would never have dreamt of if I wouldn't have spent the last half year in London I must admid)
but there you can see how much your environment influences even the way you think ;-)
Okay, keep communicatin
bye
Nike
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Response 73 of 105: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Fri, Jan 23, 1998 (05:25) * 2 lines
What's Victoria Cross?
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Response 74 of 105: Mike Griggs (mikeg) * Mon, Jan 26, 1998 (14:14) * 3 lines
The Victoria Cross is the highest award available to anybody in the United Kingdom. It's comparable to the Congressional Medal of Honour, but is
conferred even less often. The two last VCs that I know of were in the
Falklands War, 1982, to Sergeant Ian McKay (decd.) and Lt. Col Herbert Jones (decd.), both posthumously and both members of the Parachute Regiment...
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Response 75 of 105: E squared (fishergod) * Thu, Feb 19, 1998 (21:53) * 4 lines
Greetings all:
Coming from Fairbanks, Alaska. Just wanted to say hello and check this site
out. I lived in Denver for 2 years, and as beutiful as it is, I am glad to
be back north where the winters "blow" and the fishing is excellent!
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Response 76 of 105: wer (KitchenManager) * Fri, Feb 20, 1998 (11:03) * 1 lines
and a very merry welcome to you, too...
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Response 77 of 105: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Fri, Feb 20, 1998 (12:14) * 3 lines
Welcome E Squared, hope you find some things of interest here.
What do you do for a livlihood in the far north?
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Response 78 of 105: Eric Endell (fishergod) * Fri, Feb 20, 1998 (14:28) * 3 lines
I am currently attending the Univ. of AK. Fairbanks. My field of specialty
is History and Education. If all goes well I should be graduating by this
time next year. Thanks for the response Terry!
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Response 79 of 105: Mike Griggs (mikeg) * Sat, Feb 21, 1998 (18:52) * 2 lines
Welcome Eric - good to see you. Have you checked out any of the other conferences on the Spring? "Porch" is a good place to check out for general information.
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Response 80 of 105: Tim Guenther (TIM) * Sun, Nov 15, 1998 (16:10) * 2 lines
I'll admit that when I first saw vc, I thought, "vietcong". I found out otherwise in another conference.
Eric, are you implying that the winters, in Denver, suck?
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Response 81 of 105: Chad Neff (chadneff) * Wed, Nov 25, 1998 (02:15) * 6 lines
I was going to say that, "Evidently invitations work, Terry. Thanks for the invite." I'm a middle aged guy that's just been wandering around most of my life and I just wandered in here after Terry sent me email.
Well Perhaps that's not exactly true. I've done customer support for some local ISPs and I'd like to come to terms with that concept of local. I am keenly interested in what has value to people. Unfortunately, time is always a problem for me, just like everyone else in this pre/inter millenium haze. (I could also use a good spell checker)
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Response 82 of 105: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Wed, Nov 25, 1998 (06:29) * 2 lines
Hey Chad glad you made it, so are you currently working for a local Austin
ISP?
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Response 83 of 105: wer (KitchenManager) * Wed, Nov 25, 1998 (13:53) * 1 lines
Welcome, Chad, and thanks for giving us the time to check us out!
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Response 84 of 105: Chad Neff (chadneff) * Thu, Nov 26, 1998 (11:53) * 1 lines
Thanks for the welcome. Sort of, Terry, I'm currnently fiddling around in San Marcos. They let me answer connectivity questions for SMI,inc (San Marcos Internet, Inc.) We're just talking the dialup. The xDSL and ISDN etc.or out of my league.
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Response 85 of 105: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sat, Nov 28, 1998 (18:33) * 2 lines
Where's your office in SM in relation to Jeffs?
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Response 86 of 105: Chad Neff (chadneff) * Wed, Dec 2, 1998 (02:07) * 1 lines
JeffK is right off the square, SMI is down by the parks, Rio Vista Swimming pool. (We're 'bout a mile toward the IH35 form Jeff's place. Close enough for a 700 to 900+ Kbps ADSL connection.)
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Response 87 of 105: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Wed, Dec 2, 1998 (06:58) * 3 lines
What are your current projects?
Hey, did you make it down to Schlitterbahn this past summer?
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Response 88 of 105: Chad Neff (chadneff) * Wed, Dec 2, 1998 (21:00) * 3 lines
I just fiddle around watching other people do stuff. Mostly a jack of all trades, master of none. My background in graphics with a smattering of electronics from the military.
Nope, Closest I've come to vacations has been the California ISPcons the last couple of years.
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Response 89 of 105: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Thu, Dec 3, 1998 (07:30) * 2 lines
What kind of graphics are you involved with, Chad?
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Response 90 of 105: Robert Oveson (ov) * Fri, Jul 16, 1999 (13:49) * 6 lines
Hi. I just got here the other day and still feeling my way around. Confining myself to this one conference for now.
I am an Utne regular for that last couple of years. Looking around for a new home. Haven't been kicked out yet, but it could be just a matter of time since I'm coming up against the authoritarian aspect over there. Will I get mobbed by twenty people just for saying that. Is it save here.
How do I summarize who I am? Mid 40's, poor, educated, intelligent, sincere, honest, anti-patriarchy in a big way, Canadian, SWM. INterested in organizational communications, mythology, networks, transformations of consciousness on a global scale. That should be enough to either interest you or scare you away.
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Response 91 of 105: Nan (moonbeam) * Fri, Jul 16, 1999 (14:32) * 3 lines
Welcome, ov, though I'm just as new here as you are...
And no, it is not SAFE here, but then nothing you care about *is*. ;)
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Response 92 of 105: Robert Oveson (ov) * Fri, Jul 16, 1999 (14:54) * 2 lines
Surely there must be a place of sanctuary somewhere.
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Response 93 of 105: Barry Kort (moulton) * Fri, Jul 16, 1999 (15:33) * 1 lines
Hi Ov. It's good to see you here.
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Response 94 of 105: Robert Oveson (ov) * Fri, Jul 16, 1999 (15:48) * 4 lines
Greetings Barry
Still getting used to the software. How does a person read offline. I've noticed that when I'm offline I get nothing put missing data error message and told to repost. Being able to read offline is essential for me and I won't use a conferencing system that doesn't allow this.
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Response 95 of 105: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Fri, Jul 16, 1999 (21:03) * 3 lines
You can do it with a shell account pretty easily. Would you like one?
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Response 96 of 105: Robert Oveson (ov) * Fri, Jul 16, 1999 (21:42) * 2 lines
Is there someplace here that explains the details on this and what's involved. I might just wait awhile Terry, but thanks for the offer, and nice to know that it is an option. Let's find out if I'm going to be a permanent resident before I move in all my stuff. :-)
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Response 97 of 105: Marcia (MarciaH) * Fri, Jul 16, 1999 (22:22) * 1 lines
Welcome Robert. I do not scare very easily and I like your interests. Please stay and get comfortable. I don't recall a single instance of being born knowing Yapp software. You make your mistakes and we all understand.
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Response 98 of 105: Jerry (Farfnarf) * Sat, Aug 19, 2000 (13:08) * 16 lines
Over a year since a posting in here was made.
I just joined. I guess I'll look around and
see if the whole place is unused.
The topic heading askes "who are you," etc.
I'm a regular patron at the Utne Café and
The Gate. I live in Lincoln, Nebraska, having
moved up here from Austin, Texas (Anderson Mill
area) way back in '88. I'm from L.A., Calif-
ornia originally.
World traveler. Slowed that down a bit since
coming here and settling in more ways than one.
Gonna look around now. See ya!
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Response 99 of 105: Marcia (MarciaH) * Sat, Aug 19, 2000 (13:47) * 1 lines
Welcome, Jerry, and Aloha!
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Response 100 of 105: Jerry Basham (Farfnarf) * Sat, Aug 19, 2000 (17:03) * 4 lines
Thank you, Marcia. I'm still kind of feeling my way around
the software here.
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Response 101 of 105: Marcia (MarciaH) * Sun, Aug 20, 2000 (01:23) * 1 lines
I can understand that. It took me ages to find my way around. And now I havw become accomplished in messing up HTML in all conferences on Spring. Quite proud of that... well, proud is not really what that funny feeling is...!
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Response 102 of 105: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sun, Aug 20, 2000 (11:49) * 1 lines
Hey welcome Jerry, let us know if you have any questions about getting around. The "last 50" is a real handy feature.
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Response 103 of 105: Jerry Basham (Farfnarf) * Sun, Aug 20, 2000 (15:20) * 4 lines
Thanks for the welcome, Terry (Marcia, too).
Yeah, I've been using the "last 50" feature. This is a real
trip after being used to Motet.
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Response 104 of 105: virtualman (cfadm) * Mon, Jul 17, 2006 (19:01) * 1 lines
Welcome Jerry Basham.
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Response 105 of 105: Paul Terry Walhus (paul) * Thu, Feb 28, 2008 (07:55) * 2 lines
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