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Topic 24 of 109: Electronic Commerce on the web

Sun, Sep 22, 1996 (15:38) | Paul Terry Walhus (terry)
Electronic Commerce is just starting to take off. Folks are beginning to
overcome their resistance to buying with a credit card off a website. Or
are they? Perhaps you disagree. And what about the concept of
micropayments, which have a web based currency and let you pay pennies
for small increments of information that you're willing to pay for.

15 responses total.

 Topic 24 of 109 [web]: Electronic Commerce on the web
 Response 1 of 15: Angela Dugan (rikam) * Sun, Sep 22, 1996 (16:41) * 2 lines 
 
From what I understand of micropayments, a lack of standards will hamper
their acceptance.


 Topic 24 of 109 [web]: Electronic Commerce on the web
 Response 2 of 15: Angela Dugan (rikam) * Sun, Sep 22, 1996 (17:35) * 6 lines 
 
The growth rate of the Internet means the skill level of the average Internet
user is going down fast. There is a lot of money to be made by converting much
of today's commerce to an electronic one. Those running an Internet site need
to understand the tradeoffs in making it secure or how the Internet is likely
to be secured. There are tools that will work and once management is convinced,
the growth with be explosive.


 Topic 24 of 109 [web]: Electronic Commerce on the web
 Response 3 of 15: Ken Reisig  (klreisig) * Sat, Oct 26, 1996 (11:54) * 1 lines 
 
With these new units that will just hook to you tv and phone line and allow you to connect to the Web I can't see how you will be able to charge in microunits. The internet is soon becoming an extension of tv. Fiber optics are being laid in cities, cable tv companies are upgrading there cable to handle higher bandwiths. Tv stations are being gobbled up left and right. It will be made easier for people to connect to the "Superhighway". Changes are happening real fast. For the better???? Who knows?


 Topic 24 of 109 [web]: Electronic Commerce on the web
 Response 4 of 15: shannon  (shannon) * Sat, Nov 23, 1996 (17:20) * 1 lines 
 
I have no quarrel with paying for something of value. Some of the things available are of poor quality, some are excellent. How does the customer know if a product is worthwhile? Will they get their money back if they are not satisfied? These questions will have to be answered? I agree with much of the previous comments.


 Topic 24 of 109 [web]: Electronic Commerce on the web
 Response 5 of 15: Paul Terry Walhus  (terry) * Sun, Nov 24, 1996 (01:55) * 1 lines 
 
And will the channel they are buying from have security and integrity?


 Topic 24 of 109 [web]: Electronic Commerce on the web
 Response 6 of 15: Suellen Greene  (Mouzaki) * Sun, Nov 24, 1996 (17:25) * 1 lines 
 
Terry...Where can I find a normral chat room? (like the ones on AOL??)


 Topic 24 of 109 [web]: Electronic Commerce on the web
 Response 7 of 15: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sun, Nov 24, 1996 (17:28) * 1 lines 
 
In the austen conference there is a link to one.


 Topic 24 of 109 [web]: Electronic Commerce on the web
 Response 8 of 15: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Thu, Oct 16, 1997 (13:04) * 22 lines 
 

The July issue of ZD Internet Magazine reviewed:
Catalog 3.0 www.virtualspin.com 49.95 / mo / 150 items
Cat@log 1.0 www.thevisionfactory.com 1,950.00
ECS 3.0 Pro www.icat.com 9,995.00
Creator 4.0 www.formaninteractive.com 149.00
StoreManager www.outreach.com 3,495.00
Intershop O/M www.netconsult.com 4,995.00 (UNIX 7,995.00)
Live Store 3.0 www.viaweb.com 100 - 300 / mo
Mechant Bldr www.ifact.com 1,495.00 single store
OrderPoint 3.0 www.speedware.com 20,000.00 for NT (30k UNIX)

All run on NT Server 4.0 with SP 2. They tested all of them.

Their "final analysis":
Live Store for a fast startup with a small budget.

For your own server, iCat electronic commerce suite.

At the high end for isps, Intershop Mall.




 Topic 24 of 109 [web]: Electronic Commerce on the web
 Response 9 of 15: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sun, Mar  1, 1998 (10:31) * 2 lines 
 
Has anyone looked at http://www.ibill.com ?



 Topic 24 of 109 [web]: Electronic Commerce on the web
 Response 10 of 15: wer  (KitchenManager) * Sun, Mar  1, 1998 (11:33) * 1 lines 
 
Not yet...


 Topic 24 of 109 [web]: Electronic Commerce on the web
 Response 11 of 15: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sun, Mar  1, 1998 (20:59) * 10 lines 
 
Check it out if you get a chance and compare it to

www.cybersource.com

And let me know which you think would be the best e-commerce solution for
the Spring. We're going to need to start selling things here pretty soon
to support this community. I can float it another year or so, but pretty
soon the Spring's going to go out and earn a living on it's own.




 Topic 24 of 109 [web]: Electronic Commerce on the web
 Response 12 of 15: wer  (KitchenManager) * Mon, Mar  2, 1998 (00:00) * 1 lines 
 
Will do...


 Topic 24 of 109 [web]: Electronic Commerce on the web
 Response 13 of 15: wer  (KitchenManager) * Mon, Mar  2, 1998 (00:27) * 3 lines 
 
After looking around, not quite sure what you're
asking...do you want to be like them, or use them?
(and if you're using them, whathca plan on sellin?)


 Topic 24 of 109 [web]: Electronic Commerce on the web
 Response 14 of 15: Paul Terry Walhus (terry) * Sun, Nov  8, 1998 (11:23) * 39 lines 
 
some comments from suebd-is-suebd@well.com

I'm looking to open an art gallery/shop connected with a community
site, and one of the exhibitors is a jewelry artist, who makes pins,
etc. in several different finishes, sizes, metals, etc. So the ordering
system needs to be able to deal with that.

I'm looking for one of those deals where you don't need a merchant
account, and the card processing company takes care of all the credit
card stuff and sales tax for you, for a fee of (generally) 15% (but
hopefully lower?).

I've found three possibilities, and have questions on a couple more -
wonder if anyone here has dealt with these folks?

http://www.ibill.com/ looks good on paper, but would prefer to pay
less than 15% if possible. Any horror stories about Ibill?

http://www.securetrans.net/ looks OK too - similar stuff to Ibill, and
they also charge 15%.

http://www.Kagi.com - the shareware software payment processors, who
are starting to branch out into hard good. I fear, though, that their
ordering system (a one page thing rather than a cart setup) would be
way too simplistic for what I need, and the order form would be about
six miles long. Their fees are based on amount of sale, and range from
around 8-12%.

http://www.merchantonline.com
and
http://www.outreach.com/ - (Clear Commerce) - both recommended above,
but I can't see on their site that they do this particular non-merchant
account kind of thing anymore. Unless it's well-hidden. Anyone know
for sure?

http://www.gmwnet.com - a small business catering to small businesses,
allegedly trustworthy and a good guy.




 Topic 24 of 109 [web]: Electronic Commerce on the web
 Response 15 of 15: wer  (KitchenManager) * Wed, Nov 11, 1998 (16:23) * 1 lines 
 
hmmm...

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